We need a huge preseason!
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- Impatient Sainter
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We need a huge preseason!
https://www.afl.com.au/news/686230/mara ... g-machines
Its a pretty damning stat when a back pocket (Wilkie) covers more average distance than any of our wingman or midfielders. Have a look at Langdon's stats Hill needs to get back to those levels, working his backside off each week.
Its a pretty damning stat when a back pocket (Wilkie) covers more average distance than any of our wingman or midfielders. Have a look at Langdon's stats Hill needs to get back to those levels, working his backside off each week.
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Re: We need a huge preseason!
Why, not as if he's going to get dropped or have his pay cut!Impatient Sainter wrote: ↑Tue 02 Nov 2021 10:01pm https://www.afl.com.au/news/686230/mara ... g-machines
Its a pretty damning stat when a back pocket (Wilkie) covers more average distance than any of our wingman or midfielders. Have a look at Langdon's stats Hill needs to get back to those levels, working his backside off each week.
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Re: We need a huge preseason!
Tell me what a back pocket is supposed to do. ?
What is a half-back flanker?
How far should a winger run? Or jump?
Sorry, I am being an arse-hole for the purposes of the question.
But, really, ...I do wonder what the roles are these day* s ...:(like the last 40 years)
Wilkie is (no dick needs to say this) ..a an absolute win.
Hill is a champ, just look at the way he bounces the ball...it is like glue and earth have a magnetic charge...but I feel he is wasted as a half-back.
I do not know where to put him. If the field was like a diamond instead of an oval, I have a hunch.
What is a half-back flanker?
How far should a winger run? Or jump?
Sorry, I am being an arse-hole for the purposes of the question.
But, really, ...I do wonder what the roles are these day* s ...:(like the last 40 years)
Wilkie is (no dick needs to say this) ..a an absolute win.
Hill is a champ, just look at the way he bounces the ball...it is like glue and earth have a magnetic charge...but I feel he is wasted as a half-back.
I do not know where to put him. If the field was like a diamond instead of an oval, I have a hunch.
You're quite brilliant Shane, yeah..terrific!
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Re: We need a huge preseason!
At some point during the 2021 season Hill should have been put in Sandy's team, but he wasn't.shanegrambeau wrote: ↑Tue 02 Nov 2021 11:46pm Hill is a champ, just look at the way he bounces the ball...it is like glue and earth have a magnetic charge...but I feel he is wasted as a half-back.
I do not know where to put him.
Maybe in order to get him to the Saints they promised him he'd never be dropped.
The Saints are under review, will it make any difference to the underachievers ?
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Re: We need a huge preseason!
Shanagrambeau it wasnt an indictment of Wilkie quite the contrary. It backs my theory that Wilkie would be better used across the HBF in Coffields role as and as an attacking running intercepting flanker. Then move Highmore to play the lock down role on the 3rd tall.
The message was a lack of our midfield run compared to the two GF sides -
2021
Ed Langdon, 15.30km
Christian Salem, 14.20km
Alex Neal-Bullen, 13.88km HFF
Clayton Oliver, 13.61km
Jake Bowey, 13.33km HBF
Marcus Bontempelli, 14.52km
Lachie Hunter, 13.83km
Caleb Daniel, 13.64km HBF
Jack Macrae, 13.40km
Josh Bruce, 13.39km FF
Callum Wilkie, 14.01km
Jack Sinclair, 13.79km
Jack Billings, 13.74km
Bradley Hill, 13.58km
Sebastian Ross, 13.35km
Wayne42 is also right, Hill should have been dropped throughout the season, but the club simply didnt have the fit players to fill the void.
The message was a lack of our midfield run compared to the two GF sides -
2021
Ed Langdon, 15.30km
Christian Salem, 14.20km
Alex Neal-Bullen, 13.88km HFF
Clayton Oliver, 13.61km
Jake Bowey, 13.33km HBF
Marcus Bontempelli, 14.52km
Lachie Hunter, 13.83km
Caleb Daniel, 13.64km HBF
Jack Macrae, 13.40km
Josh Bruce, 13.39km FF
Callum Wilkie, 14.01km
Jack Sinclair, 13.79km
Jack Billings, 13.74km
Bradley Hill, 13.58km
Sebastian Ross, 13.35km
Wayne42 is also right, Hill should have been dropped throughout the season, but the club simply didnt have the fit players to fill the void.
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Re: We need a huge preseason!
Considering 3 of our favourite whipping boys are in our Top 5 and their numbers stack up inside the Grand Finalists numbers...any questions and angst should be pointed elsewhere.
#1 is our Fitness Crew and their priorities.
#1 is our Fitness Crew and their priorities.
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Re: We need a huge preseason!
Exactly thats why our head of fitness was moved on. Billings & Ross have always worked hard and covered the ground but rarely have the comensurate influence on the game. Hill we know has another gear or two to go up, but I would like to see at least two of our first 4 midfileders in that list.Ghost Like wrote: ↑Wed 03 Nov 2021 9:11pm Considering 3 of our favourite whipping boys are in our Top 5 and their numbers stack up inside the Grand Finalists numbers...any questions and angst should be pointed elsewhere.
#1 is our Fitness Crew and their priorities.
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Re: We need a huge preseason!
Apologies to the boys, but I hope they get absolutely flogged during pre-season training
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Re: We need a huge preseason!
I will always remember Jason Akermanis telling it for real…that when he was with Bullies, they ran them into the ground in preseason in a bid to get them super fit, and by Round 15 they were roasted and toasted..
While he has always been a show pony, I do rate his views..
So I just hope we balance it right…
Think of the best teams and the best seasons…
Low injury X elite fitness X bona fide stars + committed workers.
You're quite brilliant Shane, yeah..terrific!
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Re: We need a huge preseason!
Yes, fair point about balance. Let’s just say they need to be cherry ripe for Round 1. Cannot afford another sluggish start.shanegrambeau wrote: ↑Thu 04 Nov 2021 9:43pmI will always remember Jason Akermanis telling it for real…that when he was with Bullies, they ran them into the ground in preseason in a bid to get them super fit, and by Round 15 they were roasted and toasted..
While he has always been a show pony, I do rate his views..
So I just hope we balance it right…
Think of the best teams and the best seasons…
Low injury X elite fitness X bona fide stars + committed workers.
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Re: We need a huge preseason!
Absolutely it is about balance.
But we were not fit enough. So we were unbalanced. What's worse was that our durability was terrible.
Quite honestly... we were about 20% below the top four sides at best.
But we were not fit enough. So we were unbalanced. What's worse was that our durability was terrible.
Quite honestly... we were about 20% below the top four sides at best.
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Indeed, I think Port Adelaide and Melbourne were both in excellent shape at the start of 2021. Both teams had players that were remarkably in better shape than ever previously.
You're quite brilliant Shane, yeah..terrific!
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Re: We need a huge preseason!
I would get them down the athletics track with a good running coach for starters.
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Re: We need a huge preseason!
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Re: We need a huge preseason!
Saw big Max (maybe Ben...) running the Yarra trail the other day.
Looked good but he always does at training.
Hope he gets fitter and stronger this season, take his already impressive game up a level or two.
Looked good but he always does at training.
Hope he gets fitter and stronger this season, take his already impressive game up a level or two.