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Post: # 1919232Post saynta »

B.M wrote: Sun 08 Aug 2021 1:03am Bytel is too slow and doesn’t have the running capacity to play on the wing

Seb and McKenzie are playing wing because of the ground the can cover

BTW
A typical game from a wingman is 20-25 possessions

Seb had 19
DMac had 20

Seb was less effective but both were serviceable
Yes they were, both of them.


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Saintly66 wrote: Sun 08 Aug 2021 2:07am Time to piss Ross off
What utter nonsense. Do you call yourself a saints supporter? :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


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Seb is playing a very different role as to what he’s used to

A wingman has a very specific role in modern footy, and it’s whether you perform that role. Cannot just go kick chasing.

Must hold structure do a lot of fat side running, often unrewarded
And importantly get back and support the defence.

Seb was inconsistent with the ball, coughed it up two or three times under pressure. But also had two direct goal assists
And one of his tackles led to a Higgins goal directly.

Wasn’t a great game from him, probably 5/10 but he wasn’t poor.

McKenzie was very good 7/10

Both are now being played on the wing given their running power

Hill and Sinclair being utilised off HB due to their kicking ability and ball carrying capacity


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saynta wrote: Sun 08 Aug 2021 3:38pm
Saintly66 wrote: Sun 08 Aug 2021 2:07am Time to piss Ross off
What utter nonsense. Do you call yourself a saints supporter? :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Lol shut up, it’s called an opinion.


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Saintly66 wrote: Sun 08 Aug 2021 4:41pm
saynta wrote: Sun 08 Aug 2021 3:38pm
Saintly66 wrote: Sun 08 Aug 2021 2:07am Time to piss Ross off
What utter nonsense. Do you call yourself a saints supporter? :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Lol shut up, it’s called an opinion.
Well, so is my statement, and yours is f****** offensive to a 2 time best and fairest winner. :roll: :roll: :roll:


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B.M wrote: Sun 08 Aug 2021 3:49pm
Seb was inconsistent with the ball, coughed it up two or three times under pressure. But also had two direct goal assists

Watch the game or look at the stats. Ross had no goal assists.

You just made it up to support your argument.


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After advocating for his dismissal from the club I'm now back on board with Daniel McKenzie as well, which goes to prove once more that he, like many players on the St Kilda list, has taken an eternity to improve and become a good player. Maybe the same goes for Darragh Joyce and Oscar Clavarino??

I especially like his fearless attack on the ball, he is one of the few (Zak Jones and Ben Long as well) who will run through a brick wall to get possession.


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saynta wrote: Sun 08 Aug 2021 4:51pm
Saintly66 wrote: Sun 08 Aug 2021 4:41pm
saynta wrote: Sun 08 Aug 2021 3:38pm
Saintly66 wrote: Sun 08 Aug 2021 2:07am Time to piss Ross off
What utter nonsense. Do you call yourself a saints supporter? :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Lol shut up, it’s called an opinion.
Well, so is my statement, and yours is f****** offensive to a 2 time best and fairest winner. :roll: :roll: :roll:
Lol, you being offended is your issue. Don’t make it anybody else’s pal.


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I didn’t look at the stats and don’t need to

Just know that two of his passes led to StK goals

And his tackle led to another

You see, I don’t have a bias against him and just see the negative things he does

There are people on here who actually can’t bring themselves to give him any credit. Even though he has been a very good player for a long time in a stk jumper. One of only a few players in the last decade to make the AA squad. Captain and win B&Fs

Yes he played during a lean period, but was that his fault was it?
Because from where I sat, he (along with Jack Steven) were our only two consistently good players.


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B.M wrote: Sun 08 Aug 2021 6:37pm
You see, I don’t have a bias against him and just see the negative things he does

There are people on here who actually can’t bring themselves to give him any credit.
Dunstan.


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Dunstan has been good since returning to the side

Was not quite as good vs Carlton

Horrible and well beaten for three quarters vs Sydney but fought back well in the last and helped get the team across the line.
His kicking was quite poor at times though.

Dunstan is not nearly as good a footballer as Ross
And their careers to date would indicate that fact


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I am thrilled with Dan McK's form as had wrongly put a line through him too.
I did this not for his endeavour, pace, or bravery, but for his inconsistent kicking and brain fades.

He has not looked back since having been moved to the wing.
The best thing about Dan is that he absolutely bleeds for the club. His excitement after every goal and manic fearlessness shows that.

One could hope he improves further in '22 and goes on to play in successful St Kilda finals teams as he shows, IMO, that he could handle finals type pressure.


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B.M wrote: Sun 08 Aug 2021 6:37pm I didn’t look at the stats and don’t need to

Just know that two of his passes led to StK goals
That’s a flat out lie. Also down from the three you claimed at half time.

Tell me which goals and I’ll provide the videos.


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I count the tackle that led to the Higgins goal an assist

I also count two i50s that led to goals as goal assists

Watch the replay.

And take SOME notice


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Saintly66 wrote: Sun 08 Aug 2021 6:04pm
saynta wrote: Sun 08 Aug 2021 4:51pm
Saintly66 wrote: Sun 08 Aug 2021 4:41pm
saynta wrote: Sun 08 Aug 2021 3:38pm
Saintly66 wrote: Sun 08 Aug 2021 2:07am Time to piss Ross off
What utter nonsense. Do you call yourself a saints supporter? :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Lol shut up, it’s called an opinion.
Well, so is my statement, and yours is f****** offensive to a 2 time best and fairest winner. :roll: :roll: :roll:
Lol, you being offended is your issue. Don’t make it anybody else’s pal.
Not my issue at all. Just that I believe that crap statements should be called out for what they are. And thankfully, I am not your pal. 🖕🖕


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B.M wrote: Sun 08 Aug 2021 8:09pm I count the tackle that led to the Higgins goal an assist

I also count two i50s that led to goals as goal assists

Watch the replay.

And take SOME notice
So not a lie. You just define goal assists differently to the rest of the world.

I’ll keep that in mind for future reference.

How many games have we won this year? I just want to know your definition of win.


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By the way, even with your expanded definition, I’m struggling to find the other 2 “assists”.


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B.M wrote: Sun 08 Aug 2021 8:09pm I count the tackle that led to the Higgins goal an assist

I also count two i50s that led to goals as goal assists

Watch the replay.

And take SOME notice
Ross was involved in 4 goals but not the last link that led to a goal. Steele in 2nd, King in 3rd, and Membrey and Kent in 4th.

So, technically not goal assists, but played an important part of the goal, so you are probably correct imo.


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B.M wrote: Sun 08 Aug 2021 6:37pm I didn’t look at the stats and don’t need to

Just know that two of his passes led to StK goals

And his tackle led to another

You see, I don’t have a bias against him and just see the negative things he does

There are people on here who actually can’t bring themselves to give him any credit. Even though he has been a very good player for a long time in a stk jumper. One of only a few players in the last decade to make the AA squad. Captain and win B&Fs

Yes he played during a lean period, but was that his fault was it?
Because from where I sat, he (along with Jack Steven) were our only two consistently good players.
You are 100% spot on and that's what I have been saying for several years now.

Some posters can't accept that they were dead wrong about Seb and have been trying to bring him down with negative adverse comments ever since.

f****** disgraceful IMHFO.

Thankfully the club does not hold such outrageous disloyal views and appreciate his yearly input into the team .


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Sinclair has had a break out year, but McKenzie would get my vote for the most improved player on the list. Listening to his recent media he says Ratts has had him working on the offensive side of his game, which is pleasing to hear after he being Cho'd for far too long.


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Didn’t McKenzie have a good year in 2018

Finished 10th in the B&F in 13 games

He is not the complete dud many made him out to be… apparently Richo extended his contract and it was ludicrous?!

Good to see some tunes have changed


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B.M wrote: Sun 08 Aug 2021 6:37pm I didn’t look at the stats and don’t need to
Are you saying you could just watch a game and tell who played well and who didn’t without a stats chart?

What a novel concept.


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Post: # 1919367Post damienc »

You are right to have a go at the naysayers about D.Mac.

He's a good one for the Saints . We need to keep him. We're better when he plays. Big call but true.


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https://afl.draftcentral.com.au/2014/1 ... -mckenzie/

McKenzie's draft notes above are interesting reading

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Given this review which highlights his pace and aggression should they give McKenzie a spell in midfield and stoppages, especially when Jones is having a rest??


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