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Professional sporting PTSD?

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Our season of such poor consistency has got me thinking about the psychological impact on the group of constantly losing mates to career ending injuries or health issues has on the group. Then layered on top of that also losing a number of key players for the season to long term injuries eg Paton, Gresham, Carlisle, Gear, Hannebrey, Roberton etc.

We all know how close teams become over time, I wonder if losing the number of mates this group has, has lead to an underlying mental fragility within the group. The Paton injury which was such a dumb act by an assistant coach was brutal and really pulled the rug out from under their season (mentally). I liken it to cumulative professional footballing PTSD. I dont believe enough is said about the impact of mates losing their career or long terms injuries on the rest of the group! I know when I was playing it effected me and I was a long way from a professional footballing environment that these guys live in.

Our group have been caned with injuries this year, even Clarks jaw being broken so badly would have an effect on his mates emotionally. I know the injuries arent generally life ending, but they can be career defining for professional sportsmen. Perhaps this year our group have just had so such a degree of carry over trauma they just havent been able to process it. That in itself would explain our huge gaps in game consistency let alone the team strength effects of the injuries themselves!


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They’re not dead, they’d still see them at the club daily.


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The_Dud wrote: Sat 31 Jul 2021 1:27pm They’re not dead, they’d still see them at the club daily.
Obviously another profound thinker??


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personally

i think

that our over arching problem
is that we come at things from the wrong direction

attempting skill execution
to create momentum
falls flat continually

momentum (for us)
occurs via us playing on instinct

our skills improve on the momentum


take em on footy
is our ... nature

coz its all we've ever got


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Impatient Sainter wrote: Sat 31 Jul 2021 3:31pm
The_Dud wrote: Sat 31 Jul 2021 1:27pm They’re not dead, they’d still see them at the club daily.
Obviously another profound thinker??
Sorry, I just think saying players might be too traumatised to play properly because some other players have a few injuries is a bit of a long bow to draw.


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The_Dud wrote: Sat 31 Jul 2021 4:25pm
Impatient Sainter wrote: Sat 31 Jul 2021 3:31pm
The_Dud wrote: Sat 31 Jul 2021 1:27pm They’re not dead, they’d still see them at the club daily.
Obviously another profound thinker??
Sorry, I just think saying players might be too traumatised to play properly because some other players have a few injuries is a bit of a long bow to draw.
I agree with Dud. They are not dead. Indeed..

And they are around the club..

But players making themselves unavailable must cut in my opinion. I guess the players compartmentalise it, and remind themselves, ‘ I don’t give a F. Do what you can do. Control what you CAN control” but this leaves players more isolated.

Now, players being injured might not burn the soul of other players, but it must be a bummer to see your best players do a hammie for five weeks. And when it comes to super high paid guys like Hanners, who has finished 12 games over three years on top dollar, u gotta wonder how the middle tier players rationalize it. I imagine the young ones don’t mind..Hanners is ‘cool’ and all, more power to the old bugger and all that. But for players like around 28 like Ross, or Hill u have to wonder. Why should they give a damn? In Sinclair and Dunstan we see a mid career players giving it a shot. Long and Kent and Lonie have a go, but they surely must know the clock is ticking and they may have to ‘walk the plank’ pretty soon.

I suffer from *MAOMDD and I know what I am talking about.

*Massive Myopic awareness of many disorders disorder.


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your acronym is missing an 'M'


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Massive Myopic awareness of many disorders disorder.

so

its a humungous (massive)
lack of foresight or intellectual insight (myopic)
broad recognition (awareness)

of many disorders ,
disorder

thats an oxymoron


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postscript :

you'd be healthy
if you let yourself be


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asiu wrote: Sat 31 Jul 2021 11:55pm Massive Myopic awareness of many disorders disorder.

so

its a humungous (massive)
lack of foresight or intellectual insight (myopic)
broad recognition (awareness)

of many disorders ,
disorder

thats an oxymoron
One of the disorder disorder's symptoms is that deletion of consonants in acronyms! :oops:

Yes, indeed, you are right, but if I know that, then how can I be? Just be?

I've glanced over many rubrics and diagnostics over the years, and I think I've posted here. I definitely qualify (over qualify) for BP (Type II), BPD (Silent Type), ADHD for both inattentive and compulsive/impulsive, and a host of other variants of various disorders. Then I also qualify for Attachment Problems - a whole other paradigm, which is doing a brisk business by the way, I suppose I have Insecure Attachment of various blends and strains - their charts criss-cross, conflate and refer to various terms (they don't care, more business is good business) .. then there is always addiction...as I drink a nice Asahi...

I agree...just be....but the world offers limitless opportunities to indulge is quasi-psycho...and no one thinks the 'old way' was better, do they? Ask Ned Kelly!


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BE sagacious
my friend

we each are all

ie
bring forth who you choose to Be

it is Your destiny
to choose


your deepest operational intent
is your choice point



the rest is a lifetime of cause n effect


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ps

i have no need to ask Ned

the first 2 boys hung in Victoria
were nueonne boys


i know what Ned knows


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