Professional sporting PTSD?
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- Impatient Sainter
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Professional sporting PTSD?
Our season of such poor consistency has got me thinking about the psychological impact on the group of constantly losing mates to career ending injuries or health issues has on the group. Then layered on top of that also losing a number of key players for the season to long term injuries eg Paton, Gresham, Carlisle, Gear, Hannebrey, Roberton etc.
We all know how close teams become over time, I wonder if losing the number of mates this group has, has lead to an underlying mental fragility within the group. The Paton injury which was such a dumb act by an assistant coach was brutal and really pulled the rug out from under their season (mentally). I liken it to cumulative professional footballing PTSD. I dont believe enough is said about the impact of mates losing their career or long terms injuries on the rest of the group! I know when I was playing it effected me and I was a long way from a professional footballing environment that these guys live in.
Our group have been caned with injuries this year, even Clarks jaw being broken so badly would have an effect on his mates emotionally. I know the injuries arent generally life ending, but they can be career defining for professional sportsmen. Perhaps this year our group have just had so such a degree of carry over trauma they just havent been able to process it. That in itself would explain our huge gaps in game consistency let alone the team strength effects of the injuries themselves!
We all know how close teams become over time, I wonder if losing the number of mates this group has, has lead to an underlying mental fragility within the group. The Paton injury which was such a dumb act by an assistant coach was brutal and really pulled the rug out from under their season (mentally). I liken it to cumulative professional footballing PTSD. I dont believe enough is said about the impact of mates losing their career or long terms injuries on the rest of the group! I know when I was playing it effected me and I was a long way from a professional footballing environment that these guys live in.
Our group have been caned with injuries this year, even Clarks jaw being broken so badly would have an effect on his mates emotionally. I know the injuries arent generally life ending, but they can be career defining for professional sportsmen. Perhaps this year our group have just had so such a degree of carry over trauma they just havent been able to process it. That in itself would explain our huge gaps in game consistency let alone the team strength effects of the injuries themselves!
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Re: Professional sporting PTSD?
They’re not dead, they’d still see them at the club daily.
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Re: Professional sporting PTSD?
personally
i think
that our over arching problem
is that we come at things from the wrong direction
attempting skill execution
to create momentum
falls flat continually
momentum (for us)
occurs via us playing on instinct
our skills improve on the momentum
take em on footy
is our ... nature
coz its all we've ever got
i think
that our over arching problem
is that we come at things from the wrong direction
attempting skill execution
to create momentum
falls flat continually
momentum (for us)
occurs via us playing on instinct
our skills improve on the momentum
take em on footy
is our ... nature
coz its all we've ever got
.name the ways , thought manipulates the State of Presence away.
.tipara waranta kani nina-tu.
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Re: Professional sporting PTSD?
Sorry, I just think saying players might be too traumatised to play properly because some other players have a few injuries is a bit of a long bow to draw.
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Re: Professional sporting PTSD?
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I agree with Dud. They are not dead. Indeed..The_Dud wrote: ↑Sat 31 Jul 2021 4:25pmSorry, I just think saying players might be too traumatised to play properly because some other players have a few injuries is a bit of a long bow to draw.
And they are around the club..
But players making themselves unavailable must cut in my opinion. I guess the players compartmentalise it, and remind themselves, ‘ I don’t give a F. Do what you can do. Control what you CAN control” but this leaves players more isolated.
Now, players being injured might not burn the soul of other players, but it must be a bummer to see your best players do a hammie for five weeks. And when it comes to super high paid guys like Hanners, who has finished 12 games over three years on top dollar, u gotta wonder how the middle tier players rationalize it. I imagine the young ones don’t mind..Hanners is ‘cool’ and all, more power to the old bugger and all that. But for players like around 28 like Ross, or Hill u have to wonder. Why should they give a damn? In Sinclair and Dunstan we see a mid career players giving it a shot. Long and Kent and Lonie have a go, but they surely must know the clock is ticking and they may have to ‘walk the plank’ pretty soon.
I suffer from *MAOMDD and I know what I am talking about.
*Massive Myopic awareness of many disorders disorder.
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Re: Professional sporting PTSD?
your acronym is missing an 'M'
.name the ways , thought manipulates the State of Presence away.
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Re: Professional sporting PTSD?
Massive Myopic awareness of many disorders disorder.
so
its a humungous (massive)
lack of foresight or intellectual insight (myopic)
broad recognition (awareness)
of many disorders ,
disorder
thats an oxymoron
so
its a humungous (massive)
lack of foresight or intellectual insight (myopic)
broad recognition (awareness)
of many disorders ,
disorder
thats an oxymoron
.name the ways , thought manipulates the State of Presence away.
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Re: Professional sporting PTSD?
postscript :
you'd be healthy
if you let yourself be
you'd be healthy
if you let yourself be
.name the ways , thought manipulates the State of Presence away.
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Re: Professional sporting PTSD?
One of the disorder disorder's symptoms is that deletion of consonants in acronyms!
Yes, indeed, you are right, but if I know that, then how can I be? Just be?
I've glanced over many rubrics and diagnostics over the years, and I think I've posted here. I definitely qualify (over qualify) for BP (Type II), BPD (Silent Type), ADHD for both inattentive and compulsive/impulsive, and a host of other variants of various disorders. Then I also qualify for Attachment Problems - a whole other paradigm, which is doing a brisk business by the way, I suppose I have Insecure Attachment of various blends and strains - their charts criss-cross, conflate and refer to various terms (they don't care, more business is good business) .. then there is always addiction...as I drink a nice Asahi...
I agree...just be....but the world offers limitless opportunities to indulge is quasi-psycho...and no one thinks the 'old way' was better, do they? Ask Ned Kelly!
You're quite brilliant Shane, yeah..terrific!
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Re: Professional sporting PTSD?
BE sagacious
my friend
we each are all
ie
bring forth who you choose to Be
it is Your destiny
to choose
your deepest operational intent
is your choice point
the rest is a lifetime of cause n effect
my friend
we each are all
ie
bring forth who you choose to Be
it is Your destiny
to choose
your deepest operational intent
is your choice point
the rest is a lifetime of cause n effect
.name the ways , thought manipulates the State of Presence away.
.tipara waranta kani nina-tu.
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Re: Professional sporting PTSD?
ps
i have no need to ask Ned
the first 2 boys hung in Victoria
were nueonne boys
i know what Ned knows
i have no need to ask Ned
the first 2 boys hung in Victoria
were nueonne boys
i know what Ned knows
.name the ways , thought manipulates the State of Presence away.
.tipara waranta kani nina-tu.