Impact of injury situation on mid season draft.
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Impact of injury situation on mid season draft.
Do you see it playing a role in us looking to pick up someone?
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Re: Impact of injury situation on mid season draft.
Ideally, a ruckman who is at least competitive.
Marshall is going to be very difficult to cover over the next six weeks. Structurally, it leaves us without a foil for King up forward and God help us in the ruck if Paddy should also fall over.
Who can hold down CHF in Marshall’s absence? Membrey’s not quite a key position.
Battle? Has been tried forward but hasn’t really grabbed the opportunity. Carlisle? Probably not. McKernan ditto. Coffield? Good hands, reads the play well, but, like Membrey, not really key position. Maybe worth a try?
Anyway, got to find someone who can play a role up forward because otherwise it’s long bombs to King. A serviceable ruckman would at least allow Ryder to drift forward.
If there is no decent ruckmen about, I’m not against us having a look at Nathan Freeman. Can always find a spot for a ball-magnet midfielder.
Marshall is going to be very difficult to cover over the next six weeks. Structurally, it leaves us without a foil for King up forward and God help us in the ruck if Paddy should also fall over.
Who can hold down CHF in Marshall’s absence? Membrey’s not quite a key position.
Battle? Has been tried forward but hasn’t really grabbed the opportunity. Carlisle? Probably not. McKernan ditto. Coffield? Good hands, reads the play well, but, like Membrey, not really key position. Maybe worth a try?
Anyway, got to find someone who can play a role up forward because otherwise it’s long bombs to King. A serviceable ruckman would at least allow Ryder to drift forward.
If there is no decent ruckmen about, I’m not against us having a look at Nathan Freeman. Can always find a spot for a ball-magnet midfielder.
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Re: Impact of injury situation on mid season draft.
Yes, WBulldogs won last night without either of their main Ruckman..but they had Bruce up forward who is like a 0.5 ruckman I guess.bigcarl wrote: ↑Sun 16 May 2021 2:08am Ideally, a ruckman who is at least competitive.
Marshall is going to be very difficult to cover over the next six weeks. Structurally, it leaves us without a foil for King up forward and God help us in the ruck if Paddy should also fall over.
Who can hold down CHF in Marshall’s absence? Membrey’s not quite a key position.
Battle? Has been tried forward but hasn’t really grabbed the opportunity. Carlisle? Probably not. McKernan ditto. Coffield? Good hands, reads the play well, but, like Membrey, not really key position. Maybe worth a try?
Anyway, got to find someone who can play a role up forward because otherwise it’s long bombs to King. A serviceable ruckman would at least allow Ryder to drift forward.
If there is no decent ruckmen about, I’m not against us having a look at Nathan Freeman. Can always find a spot for a ball-magnet midfielder.
People hear say McKernan is a complete dud. What can I say? I have not seen enough. We bagged Hickey and now look at him? But the ruck seems to have three main roles,
1) tap out at ball ups...
2) tall link man or interceptor around the ground
3) alternative forward goal kicking target
I suppose McKernan fails in an least two of these. Marshall was sufficient at 1) and above average at 2) and 3)
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Re: Impact of injury situation on mid season draft.
To be honest, I haven’t seen enough of McKernan either. I did sense that he is no Rowan Marshall thoughshanegrambeau wrote: ↑Sun 16 May 2021 12:17pmYes, WBulldogs won last night without either of their main Ruckman..but they had Bruce up forward who is like a 0.5 ruckman I guess.bigcarl wrote: ↑Sun 16 May 2021 2:08am Ideally, a ruckman who is at least competitive.
Marshall is going to be very difficult to cover over the next six weeks. Structurally, it leaves us without a foil for King up forward and God help us in the ruck if Paddy should also fall over.
Who can hold down CHF in Marshall’s absence? Membrey’s not quite a key position.
Battle? Has been tried forward but hasn’t really grabbed the opportunity. Carlisle? Probably not. McKernan ditto. Coffield? Good hands, reads the play well, but, like Membrey, not really key position. Maybe worth a try?
Anyway, got to find someone who can play a role up forward because otherwise it’s long bombs to King. A serviceable ruckman would at least allow Ryder to drift forward.
If there is no decent ruckmen about, I’m not against us having a look at Nathan Freeman. Can always find a spot for a ball-magnet midfielder.
People hear say McKernan is a complete dud. What can I say? I have not seen enough. We bagged Hickey and now look at him? But the ruck seems to have three main roles,
1) tap out at ball ups...
2) tall link man or interceptor around the ground
3) alternative forward goal kicking target
I suppose McKernan fails in an least two of these. Marshall was sufficient at 1) and above average at 2) and 3)
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Re: Impact of injury situation on mid season draft.
Against Williamstown on Saturday Key forward Shaun McKernan impressed up forward with 3.1 and five marks.
They should bring him in to replace Marshall, leave him in until Marshall returns.
Midfielder Luke Dunstan has continued his scintillating VFL form, finishing with 36 disposals, 10 marks and 2.1 in Sandringham’s nine-point win over Williamstown on Saturday.
Should bring Dunstan in as well against the Dogs.
They should bring him in to replace Marshall, leave him in until Marshall returns.
Midfielder Luke Dunstan has continued his scintillating VFL form, finishing with 36 disposals, 10 marks and 2.1 in Sandringham’s nine-point win over Williamstown on Saturday.
Should bring Dunstan in as well against the Dogs.
The Saints are under review, will it make any difference to the underachievers ?
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Re: Impact of injury situation on mid season draft.
Yes..then..finally, we should give McKernan a chance.Wayne42 wrote: ↑Sun 16 May 2021 12:50pm Against Williamstown on Saturday Key forward Shaun McKernan impressed up forward with 3.1 and five marks.
They should bring him in to replace Marshall, leave him in until Marshall returns.
Midfielder Luke Dunstan has continued his scintillating VFL form, finishing with 36 disposals, 10 marks and 2.1 in Sandringham’s nine-point win over Williamstown on Saturday.
Should bring Dunstan in as well against the Dogs.
He must have really pissed people off here in one of those early games.
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Re: Impact of injury situation on mid season draft.
The MSD offers the Saints and opportunity to bring in some of the young blokes that missed selection from last year's NAB draft and on another thread I have listed three that I believe should be considered, which includes a ruckman (Max Heath or Henry Walsh), a tall forward who's ready to play immediately (Jackson Callow) and a Clermont Tasmania B&F mid (Ollie Davis). OK, that's four...not sure if I'd give another chance to Nat Freeman but that's up to the club.bigcarl wrote: ↑Sun 16 May 2021 2:08am Ideally, a ruckman who is at least competitive.
Marshall is going to be very difficult to cover over the next six weeks. Structurally, it leaves us without a foil for King up forward and God help us in the ruck if Paddy should also fall over.
Who can hold down CHF in Marshall’s absence? Membrey’s not quite a key position.
Battle? Has been tried forward but hasn’t really grabbed the opportunity. Carlisle? Probably not. McKernan ditto. Coffield? Good hands, reads the play well, but, like Membrey, not really key position. Maybe worth a try?
Anyway, got to find someone who can play a role up forward because otherwise it’s long bombs to King. A serviceable ruckman would at least allow Ryder to drift forward.
If there is no decent ruckmen about, I’m not against us having a look at Nathan Freeman. Can always find a spot for a ball-magnet midfielder.
From memory St Kilda currently has 4 spots still unfilled, to which they could possibly add the 2 players out for the season, Ben Paton and Jade Gresham.
I would have thought that this is a perfect opportunity for the club to try out some of the available talent that's around, and offer permanent contracts to any that do.
Looking to the end of the year, there may well be some additional vacancies on the list due to retirements or delistings, which could include one or more of the following:
Luke Dunstan - find it hard to see him get a game ahead of B1 and B2 (Bytel and Byrnes).
Jarryn Geary - surely the last year for this ageing stalwart.
Dean Kent - 28 next year and not going to get any better.
Daniel McKenzie - definitely not "best 25".
Ben Long - unless he makes a vast turnaround in his performance in the remaining games (i.e. if he's even selected) there's no point him remaining, could possibly fetch a trade...
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Re: Impact of injury situation on mid season draft.
The cupboard is bare.
Geary if fit in for Long.
McKernan will have to play but he doesnt deserve more games, will simply have nothing else.
Geary if fit in for Long.
McKernan will have to play but he doesnt deserve more games, will simply have nothing else.
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Re: Impact of injury situation on mid season draft.
We should absolutely take the chance to get in some young players and develop them for half a season.
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Re: Impact of injury situation on mid season draft.
Finals not looking likely (and 7-8 at the very best) so plan for the future.
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Re: Impact of injury situation on mid season draft.
100%Banger9798 wrote: ↑Sun 16 May 2021 7:06pm We should absolutely take the chance to get in some young players and develop them for half a season.
Can't believe our recruiting this year to date:
Slips through his fingers - was never more than D grade AFL standard
Wood - talented but another D grade AFL player who plays with very little aggression
Frawley - was a good player in his day but done and dusted
I don't have an issue with the Hunter recruitment, he was an untried talent and was at least not a known has-been or never was.
Now some supporters are spruiking for Freeman to be recruited FFS
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Probably the same people who back recruiting Hannebery
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It is our opportunity to invest in some young talent who missed last season due to the unusual circumstances. Buy for the future saints!
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Re: Impact of injury situation on mid season draft.
Carlisle will come in for Marshall to be that tall in attack and second ruck.
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Re: Impact of injury situation on mid season draft.
I'd rather Dustan in the ruck than McKernan.Wayne42 wrote: ↑Sun 16 May 2021 12:50pm Against Williamstown on Saturday Key forward Shaun McKernan impressed up forward with 3.1 and five marks.
They should bring him in to replace Marshall, leave him in until Marshall returns.
Midfielder Luke Dunstan has continued his scintillating VFL form, finishing with 36 disposals, 10 marks and 2.1 in Sandringham’s nine-point win over Williamstown on Saturday.
Should bring Dunstan in as well against the Dogs.
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Re: Impact of injury situation on mid season draft.
Dunstan probably has a better leap than Hunter, Mckernan can take a contested mark up forward, you just never know which week he will do it.,Beno88 wrote: ↑Mon 17 May 2021 9:05amI'd rather Dustan in the ruck than McKernan.Wayne42 wrote: ↑Sun 16 May 2021 12:50pm Against Williamstown on Saturday Key forward Shaun McKernan impressed up forward with 3.1 and five marks.
They should bring him in to replace Marshall, leave him in until Marshall returns.
Midfielder Luke Dunstan has continued his scintillating VFL form, finishing with 36 disposals, 10 marks and 2.1 in Sandringham’s nine-point win over Williamstown on Saturday.
Should bring Dunstan in as well against the Dogs.
The Saints are under review, will it make any difference to the underachievers ?
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Re: Impact of injury situation on mid season draft.
We certainly need another ruck but we have Hunter and "slips through his fingers" as back up.bigcarl wrote: ↑Sun 16 May 2021 2:08am Ideally, a ruckman who is at least competitive.
Marshall is going to be very difficult to cover over the next six weeks. Structurally, it leaves us without a foil for King up forward and God help us in the ruck if Paddy should also fall over.
Who can hold down CHF in Marshall’s absence? Membrey’s not quite a key position.
Battle? Has been tried forward but hasn’t really grabbed the opportunity. Carlisle? Probably not. McKernan ditto. Coffield? Good hands, reads the play well, but, like Membrey, not really key position. Maybe worth a try?
Anyway, got to find someone who can play a role up forward because otherwise it’s long bombs to King. A serviceable ruckman would at least allow Ryder to drift forward.
If there is no decent ruckmen about, I’m not against us having a look at Nathan Freeman. Can always find a spot for a ball-magnet midfielder.
Another speculative ruck (like Goddard at Frankston) could be another wasted spot.
I'd love to rookie a young ruck or two that missed out in last years draft and see if we can develop them.
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