Now that we can write off Gresham & Hannebery for 2021
Moderators: Saintsational Administrators, Saintsational Moderators
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 4324
- Joined: Fri 15 Sep 2006 10:35am
- Location: earth
- Has thanked: 1 time
- Been thanked: 1442 times
Now that we can write off Gresham & Hannebery for 2021
Our midfield is mostly slow, with few players with high quality foot skills. We need to face it. We don't cut it against half of the midfields in the league
Steele (medium paced, reliable disposal)
Crouch (slow, poor disposal)
Jones (quick, poor disposal)
Ross (medium pace, poor disposal)
Dunstan (slow, poor disposal)
Bytel (slow, no penetration in kicking)
Clark ( medium to quick pace, good disposal)
Sinclair ( see Clark)
Billings ( slow to medium pace, excellent disposal)
Hill ( quick, excellent disposal) use
Steele (medium paced, reliable disposal)
Crouch (slow, poor disposal)
Jones (quick, poor disposal)
Ross (medium pace, poor disposal)
Dunstan (slow, poor disposal)
Bytel (slow, no penetration in kicking)
Clark ( medium to quick pace, good disposal)
Sinclair ( see Clark)
Billings ( slow to medium pace, excellent disposal)
Hill ( quick, excellent disposal) use
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 12062
- Joined: Sun 11 Sep 2011 2:26pm
- Has thanked: 3689 times
- Been thanked: 2571 times
Re: Now that we can write off Gresham & Hannebery for 2021
Have we got a midfield that is slow or do they fall into the medium paced category as an average?
A question for the mathematicians. According to the op... Is the median slow paced or is the median medium paced?
A question for the mathematicians. According to the op... Is the median slow paced or is the median medium paced?
- samuraisaint
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 5928
- Joined: Sun 25 Sep 2011 3:23pm
- Location: Outside Lucky Burgers
- Has thanked: 859 times
- Been thanked: 801 times
Re: Now that we can write off Gresham & Hannebery for 2021
Hannebery will be back in about a month. I would say by mid-May barring training injury mishaps.
Your friendly neighbourhood samurai.
- SaintPav
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 19106
- Joined: Wed 16 Jun 2010 9:24pm
- Location: Alma Road
- Has thanked: 1603 times
- Been thanked: 2019 times
Re: Now that we can write off Gresham & Hannebery for 2021
What is Simpson’s Paradox?
Holder of unacceptable views and other thought crimes.
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 4566
- Joined: Thu 20 May 2010 11:49pm
- Has thanked: 120 times
- Been thanked: 314 times
Re: Now that we can write off Gresham & Hannebery for 2021
Just so long as he doesn't visit sister's stairs again!samuraisaint wrote: ↑Thu 08 Apr 2021 7:49pm Hannebery will be back in about a month. I would say by mid-May barring training injury mishaps.
Will play a big part in the finals (with Freeman &Lovett)!
-
- SS Hall of Fame
- Posts: 2002
- Joined: Thu 23 Sep 2010 11:35am
- Been thanked: 1215 times
Re: Now that we can write off Gresham & Hannebery for 2021
On a positive note great to see Benny Paton back at the club today.
-
- SS Hall of Fame
- Posts: 2490
- Joined: Mon 19 Mar 2012 8:54pm
- Has thanked: 140 times
- Been thanked: 546 times
Re: Now that we can write off Gresham & Hannebery for 2021
Do you honestly believe that ? Don't get me wrong I hope he is too but I'm not betting my house on it that's for suresamuraisaint wrote: ↑Thu 08 Apr 2021 7:49pm Hannebery will be back in about a month. I would say by mid-May barring training injury mishaps.
- SaintPav
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 19106
- Joined: Wed 16 Jun 2010 9:24pm
- Location: Alma Road
- Has thanked: 1603 times
- Been thanked: 2019 times
Re: Now that we can write off Gresham & Hannebery for 2021
How's he tracking?
Any news on how Gresh’s procedure went? It was such an innocuous movement.
Holder of unacceptable views and other thought crimes.
- samuraisaint
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 5928
- Joined: Sun 25 Sep 2011 3:23pm
- Location: Outside Lucky Burgers
- Has thanked: 859 times
- Been thanked: 801 times
Re: Now that we can write off Gresham & Hannebery for 2021
I think if we make finals he'll play in them. That's what I believe. And that is when we'd need him.bangaulegend wrote: ↑Thu 08 Apr 2021 8:02pmDo you honestly believe that ? Don't get me wrong I hope he is too but I'm not betting my house on it that's for suresamuraisaint wrote: ↑Thu 08 Apr 2021 7:49pm Hannebery will be back in about a month. I would say by mid-May barring training injury mishaps.
Your friendly neighbourhood samurai.
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 5060
- Joined: Tue 13 Jun 2017 1:16pm
- Has thanked: 1446 times
- Been thanked: 1498 times
Re: Now that we can write off Gresham & Hannebery for 2021
Slow? as in over 25m or reflexes. Bolt v Pendleberry type comparison or what. I think all the players rated above are quite good/competitive when given a reasonable chance at possession (hint: our fill in rucks suck). Fumbling due to lack of confidence is killing us, of course. Some however are very quick but denied the opportunity to show it. Dunstan, while not a sprint king, has a role in our team I believe, he has excellent close in skills in getting the ball out in tight packs or stopping the opposition; positions well. Unfairly maligned, I think. I know its not a fashionable opinion but I think if Dunstan and McKenzie were assured the coach's confidence for, say, a third of the season they would do ok. The constant negativity sent their way cannot help. When they get completely frustrated with their treatment they will be picked up and flourish in other clubs. Honestly colleagues, and knowingly comparing apples and oranges, do any of you think Dunstan would have done worse than Wood last Saturday. Some of our selectors are looking at what they hope players might be rather than what they are. North cut Wood after a good look, remember that. I hope Luke gets a go. For those that watch training, how does Luke go one on one with Jack Lonie?
- MC Gusto
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 6083
- Joined: Tue 09 Mar 2004 8:29am
- Has thanked: 2 times
- Been thanked: 372 times
Re: Now that we can write off Gresham & Hannebery for 2021
No...we bought him to play in the season to get us into the finals and then we need him to play in them as wellsamuraisaint wrote: ↑Thu 08 Apr 2021 9:18pmI think if we make finals he'll play in them. That's what I believe. And that is when we'd need him.bangaulegend wrote: ↑Thu 08 Apr 2021 8:02pmDo you honestly believe that ? Don't get me wrong I hope he is too but I'm not betting my house on it that's for suresamuraisaint wrote: ↑Thu 08 Apr 2021 7:49pm Hannebery will be back in about a month. I would say by mid-May barring training injury mishaps.
#1 Ryder fan
-
- SS Hall of Fame
- Posts: 2490
- Joined: Mon 19 Mar 2012 8:54pm
- Has thanked: 140 times
- Been thanked: 546 times
Re: Now that we can write off Gresham & Hannebery for 2021
Do you honestly believe that we will make the finals ? Don't get me wrong I hope we do too I but I'm not betting my house on it that's for suresamuraisaint wrote: ↑Thu 08 Apr 2021 9:18pmI think if we make finals he'll play in them. That's what I believe. And that is when we'd need him.bangaulegend wrote: ↑Thu 08 Apr 2021 8:02pmDo you honestly believe that ? Don't get me wrong I hope he is too but I'm not betting my house on it that's for suresamuraisaint wrote: ↑Thu 08 Apr 2021 7:49pm Hannebery will be back in about a month. I would say by mid-May barring training injury mishaps.
- samuraisaint
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 5928
- Joined: Sun 25 Sep 2011 3:23pm
- Location: Outside Lucky Burgers
- Has thanked: 859 times
- Been thanked: 801 times
Re: Now that we can write off Gresham & Hannebery for 2021
bangaulegend wrote: ↑Thu 08 Apr 2021 10:26pmDo you honestly believe that we will make the finals ? Don't get me wrong I hope we do too I but I'm not betting my house on it that's for suresamuraisaint wrote: ↑Thu 08 Apr 2021 9:18pmI think if we make finals he'll play in them. That's what I believe. And that is when we'd need him.bangaulegend wrote: ↑Thu 08 Apr 2021 8:02pmDo you honestly believe that ? Don't get me wrong I hope he is too but I'm not betting my house on it that's for suresamuraisaint wrote: ↑Thu 08 Apr 2021 7:49pm Hannebery will be back in about a month. I would say by mid-May barring training injury mishaps.
We're as good a chance as any.
Your friendly neighbourhood samurai.
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 4941
- Joined: Fri 05 Jun 2009 3:05pm
- Has thanked: 343 times
- Been thanked: 491 times
Re: Now that we can write off Gresham & Hannebery for 2021
Only on a fan forum can this comment slide through. We are currently 2nd bottom on the ladder with a % of 74. After 3 x rounds I recko we are presenting as the 2ndworst team.samuraisaint wrote: ↑Thu 08 Apr 2021 10:59pmbangaulegend wrote: ↑Thu 08 Apr 2021 10:26pmDo you honestly believe that we will make the finals ? Don't get me wrong I hope we do too I but I'm not betting my house on it that's for suresamuraisaint wrote: ↑Thu 08 Apr 2021 9:18pmI think if we make finals he'll play in them. That's what I believe. And that is when we'd need him.bangaulegend wrote: ↑Thu 08 Apr 2021 8:02pmDo you honestly believe that ? Don't get me wrong I hope he is too but I'm not betting my house on it that's for suresamuraisaint wrote: ↑Thu 08 Apr 2021 7:49pm Hannebery will be back in about a month. I would say by mid-May barring training injury mishaps.
We're as good a chance as any.
The talk of Hannas playing finals is what we got him to the club for is seriously laughable. And the more likely scenario is that we miss finals and Hannebery missed a large chunk of H&A season contributing to us missing
- shrodes
- SS Life Member
- Posts: 3091
- Joined: Tue 12 Aug 2014 2:34pm
- Location: Melbourne
- Has thanked: 791 times
- Been thanked: 436 times
Re: Now that we can write off Gresham & Hannebery for 2021
Finey on Footyology this week was implying Gresh was weighing up his footy future and whether to return to footy. Any truth there tony?
- samuraisaint
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 5928
- Joined: Sun 25 Sep 2011 3:23pm
- Location: Outside Lucky Burgers
- Has thanked: 859 times
- Been thanked: 801 times
Re: Now that we can write off Gresham & Hannebery for 2021
Winning a few games early doesn't guarantee finals, losing a few doesn't guarantee you won't. I am not throwing in the towel after two losses.Moods wrote: ↑Fri 09 Apr 2021 9:03amOnly on a fan forum can this comment slide through. We are currently 2nd bottom on the ladder with a % of 74. After 3 x rounds I recko we are presenting as the 2ndworst team.samuraisaint wrote: ↑Thu 08 Apr 2021 10:59pmbangaulegend wrote: ↑Thu 08 Apr 2021 10:26pmDo you honestly believe that we will make the finals ? Don't get me wrong I hope we do too I but I'm not betting my house on it that's for suresamuraisaint wrote: ↑Thu 08 Apr 2021 9:18pmI think if we make finals he'll play in them. That's what I believe. And that is when we'd need him.bangaulegend wrote: ↑Thu 08 Apr 2021 8:02pmDo you honestly believe that ? Don't get me wrong I hope he is too but I'm not betting my house on it that's for suresamuraisaint wrote: ↑Thu 08 Apr 2021 7:49pm Hannebery will be back in about a month. I would say by mid-May barring training injury mishaps.
We're as good a chance as any.
The talk of Hannas playing finals is what we got him to the club for is seriously laughable. And the more likely scenario is that we miss finals and Hannebery missed a large chunk of H&A season contributing to us missing
Your friendly neighbourhood samurai.
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 4941
- Joined: Fri 05 Jun 2009 3:05pm
- Has thanked: 343 times
- Been thanked: 491 times
Re: Now that we can write off Gresham & Hannebery for 2021
Not suggesting that we throw in the towel. More addressing your comment we're you're that we're as good a chance as anyone of making the finals. I'd suggest that we're not. Our performances after 3 games indicate we're behind the 8 ball. Yes, things can change but our last two games (particularly the last game) was abysmal. Does that mean that North are as a good a chance as any as well?samuraisaint wrote: ↑Fri 09 Apr 2021 9:58amWinning a few games early doesn't guarantee finals, losing a few doesn't guarantee you won't. I am not throwing in the towel after two losses.Moods wrote: ↑Fri 09 Apr 2021 9:03amOnly on a fan forum can this comment slide through. We are currently 2nd bottom on the ladder with a % of 74. After 3 x rounds I recko we are presenting as the 2ndworst team.samuraisaint wrote: ↑Thu 08 Apr 2021 10:59pmbangaulegend wrote: ↑Thu 08 Apr 2021 10:26pmDo you honestly believe that we will make the finals ? Don't get me wrong I hope we do too I but I'm not betting my house on it that's for suresamuraisaint wrote: ↑Thu 08 Apr 2021 9:18pmI think if we make finals he'll play in them. That's what I believe. And that is when we'd need him.bangaulegend wrote: ↑Thu 08 Apr 2021 8:02pmDo you honestly believe that ? Don't get me wrong I hope he is too but I'm not betting my house on it that's for suresamuraisaint wrote: ↑Thu 08 Apr 2021 7:49pm Hannebery will be back in about a month. I would say by mid-May barring training injury mishaps.
We're as good a chance as any.
The talk of Hannas playing finals is what we got him to the club for is seriously laughable. And the more likely scenario is that we miss finals and Hannebery missed a large chunk of H&A season contributing to us missing
-
- Club Player
- Posts: 632
- Joined: Mon 21 Aug 2017 1:23am
- Location: Doncaster, Victoria
- Has thanked: 77 times
- Been thanked: 33 times
Re: Now that we can write off Gresham & Hannebery for 2021
Visit Saints website. A pic of him in hosp bed, with a few words underneath.
Can't post link, sorry
2020 was an aberration, when we travelled twice to Adelaide and won both, beat Tigers early, beat our bogey Swans. 2021 we've returned to our old ways. Damn
- SaintPav
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 19106
- Joined: Wed 16 Jun 2010 9:24pm
- Location: Alma Road
- Has thanked: 1603 times
- Been thanked: 2019 times
Re: Now that we can write off Gresham & Hannebery for 2021
MickThomas wrote: ↑Fri 09 Apr 2021 1:55pmVisit Saints website. A pic of him in hosp bed, with a few words underneath.
Can't post link, sorry
Holder of unacceptable views and other thought crimes.
-
- SS Hall of Fame
- Posts: 2002
- Joined: Thu 23 Sep 2010 11:35am
- Been thanked: 1215 times
Re: Now that we can write off Gresham & Hannebery for 2021
Bens tracking pretty well, no infections or compartment syndrome problems. And Greshs operation was as positive as expected. Jade is pretty down but he’ll bounce back, pretty expected when you have a season ending injury
- samuraisaint
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 5928
- Joined: Sun 25 Sep 2011 3:23pm
- Location: Outside Lucky Burgers
- Has thanked: 859 times
- Been thanked: 801 times
Re: Now that we can write off Gresham & Hannebery for 2021
North haven't won a game yet, have they? And nor have the Suns.Moods wrote: ↑Fri 09 Apr 2021 1:13pmNot suggesting that we throw in the towel. More addressing your comment we're you're that we're as good a chance as anyone of making the finals. I'd suggest that we're not. Our performances after 3 games indicate we're behind the 8 ball. Yes, things can change but our last two games (particularly the last game) was abysmal. Does that mean that North are as a good a chance as any as well?samuraisaint wrote: ↑Fri 09 Apr 2021 9:58amWinning a few games early doesn't guarantee finals, losing a few doesn't guarantee you won't. I am not throwing in the towel after two losses.Moods wrote: ↑Fri 09 Apr 2021 9:03amOnly on a fan forum can this comment slide through. We are currently 2nd bottom on the ladder with a % of 74. After 3 x rounds I recko we are presenting as the 2ndworst team.samuraisaint wrote: ↑Thu 08 Apr 2021 10:59pmbangaulegend wrote: ↑Thu 08 Apr 2021 10:26pmDo you honestly believe that we will make the finals ? Don't get me wrong I hope we do too I but I'm not betting my house on it that's for suresamuraisaint wrote: ↑Thu 08 Apr 2021 9:18pmI think if we make finals he'll play in them. That's what I believe. And that is when we'd need him.bangaulegend wrote: ↑Thu 08 Apr 2021 8:02pmDo you honestly believe that ? Don't get me wrong I hope he is too but I'm not betting my house on it that's for suresamuraisaint wrote: ↑Thu 08 Apr 2021 7:49pm Hannebery will be back in about a month. I would say by mid-May barring training injury mishaps.
We're as good a chance as any.
The talk of Hannas playing finals is what we got him to the club for is seriously laughable. And the more likely scenario is that we miss finals and Hannebery missed a large chunk of H&A season contributing to us missing
Your friendly neighbourhood samurai.
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 12630
- Joined: Thu 04 Jul 2019 8:53pm
- Has thanked: 5 times
- Been thanked: 2693 times
Re: Now that we can write off Gresham & Hannebery for 2021
We are in trouble
If we are not 2-3 after R5 we are in trouble
If we are not 2-4 after R6 we are in huge trouble
If we are not 2-3 after R5 we are in trouble
If we are not 2-4 after R6 we are in huge trouble
- SaintPav
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 19106
- Joined: Wed 16 Jun 2010 9:24pm
- Location: Alma Road
- Has thanked: 1603 times
- Been thanked: 2019 times
Re: Now that we can write off Gresham & Hannebery for 2021
Long season but we need a win tomorrow desperately to turn the ship around and get season back on track.
Holder of unacceptable views and other thought crimes.
- Joffa Burns
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 7081
- Joined: Tue 09 Mar 2004 5:48pm
- Has thanked: 1871 times
- Been thanked: 1570 times
Re: Now that we can write off Gresham & Hannebery for 2021
The other issue is percentage usually becomes very important when you are looking at positions 6-10 and making finals.
70+ point drubbing to a bottom 8 team does not give one confidence we will have a positive %.
Proudly assuming the title of forum Oracle and serving as the inaugural Saintsational ‘weak as piss brigade’ President.
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 5060
- Joined: Tue 13 Jun 2017 1:16pm
- Has thanked: 1446 times
- Been thanked: 1498 times
Re: Now that we can write off Gresham & Hannebery for 2021
Movie pitch: man marooned in physio facility for three years, when he emerges he finds he cannot recognise the game he once loved. Uses his practical knowledge of soft tissue injuries to help others. Carves* great career as life coach and guest speaker, engages Benny Hinn's donations manager, money just keeps appearing, how good is that. His book, Its the Other Leg Now, best seller. Draft of Groin Strains and how to leverage a wip. Never does actually coach, but that's another story.
* 2 calf muscles, get it, both legs, sort of pun. Oh, Sainters don't get the joke?
* 2 calf muscles, get it, both legs, sort of pun. Oh, Sainters don't get the joke?