seriously? his response was in no way related to the feud you two have going on. why bring it up? if anything you're the one now baiting. let it go before you catch something.The_Dud wrote: ↑Tue 06 Apr 2021 4:15pmCURLY wrote: ↑Tue 06 Apr 2021 2:34pmThe_Dud wrote: ↑Tue 06 Apr 2021 1:59pm Hill got plenty of it against Melbourne, and absolutely butchered it repeatedly. No one else to blame in the situation.
Every player has to go when it’s their turn to put their head over the ball, that should be a non-negotiable, no matter what a few of the casuals say.
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Is it Brad Hills fault we are paying him as much as he’s on?
He is out of form, no doubt. To suggest he’s not trying is a huge call!
He is out of form, no doubt. To suggest he’s not trying is a huge call!
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Re: Brad Hill
IMHO, Hill is not going well in terms of output/dollar paid. But team selection is based on output not output per dollar. On that ground, I would have quite a few below Hill in each of the last 2 weeks. Clearly his kicking was down but he was working pretty hard to get to positions and to play the role he is supposed to.
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I don't doubt for a moment that he is not trying but complacent probably . Unfortunately we are all creatures of habit when we are comfortable we take things for granted & its not till the sh-t hits the fan we realise we need to dig deeper. Hopefully the penny has dropped not just for Brad but the whole team
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Seriously, sounds pretty black and white to me.desertsaint wrote: ↑Wed 07 Apr 2021 9:47pmseriously? his response was in no way related to the feud you two have going on. why bring it up? if anything you're the one now baiting. let it go before you catch something.The_Dud wrote: ↑Tue 06 Apr 2021 4:15pmCURLY wrote: ↑Tue 06 Apr 2021 2:34pmThe_Dud wrote: ↑Tue 06 Apr 2021 1:59pm Hill got plenty of it against Melbourne, and absolutely butchered it repeatedly. No one else to blame in the situation.
Every player has to go when it’s their turn to put their head over the ball, that should be a non-negotiable, no matter what a few of the casuals say.
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Maybe someone should tell him that every bloke with a St Kilda jumper on has to put their head over the ball when it’s their turn, no matter what their salary or what they were allowed to get away with at previous clubs.bangaulegend wrote: ↑Wed 07 Apr 2021 10:40pmI don't doubt for a moment that he is not trying but complacent probably . Unfortunately we are all creatures of habit when we are comfortable we take things for granted & its not till the sh-t hits the fan we realise we need to dig deeper. Hopefully the penny has dropped not just for Brad but the whole team
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For all the critisism, I think Brad is being presented with high degree difficulty targets as those ahead of him don't anticipate and/or separate from opponents. We don't have many players that can win 50/50 contests so its not clear to me why they don't separate and present a leading target (too slow, pace wise and mentally?).
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Defenders are on to it. If Hill has the ball St Kilda players lead towards him. Stick with them.Yorkeys wrote: ↑Thu 08 Apr 2021 7:42am For all the critisism, I think Brad is being presented with high degree difficulty targets as those ahead of him don't anticipate and/or separate from opponents. We don't have many players that can win 50/50 contests so its not clear to me why they don't separate and present a leading target (too slow, pace wise and mentally?).
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Well said mate.desertsaint wrote: ↑Wed 07 Apr 2021 9:47pmseriously? his response was in no way related to the feud you two have going on. why bring it up? if anything you're the one now baiting. let it go before you catch something.The_Dud wrote: ↑Tue 06 Apr 2021 4:15pmCURLY wrote: ↑Tue 06 Apr 2021 2:34pmThe_Dud wrote: ↑Tue 06 Apr 2021 1:59pm Hill got plenty of it against Melbourne, and absolutely butchered it repeatedly. No one else to blame in the situation.
Every player has to go when it’s their turn to put their head over the ball, that should be a non-negotiable, no matter what a few of the casuals say.
He ran and presented all game though it wasn't as if he wasn't trying.The Dud and Curly:
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Re: Brad Hill
Bascailly Fyfe could make anyone look good and that has become apparent. Going after big name players jsut passd their prime has now got to be seen as a flawed plan. A few bright sparks are that Hanners is done at season end adn HIll has some skills but he nees to train on his kicking and pretty much nothign else until he gets that working for him
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Yes, dobbing is pretty black and white, Dud.The_Dud wrote: ↑Thu 08 Apr 2021 2:23amSeriously, sounds pretty black and white to me.desertsaint wrote: ↑Wed 07 Apr 2021 9:47pmseriously? his response was in no way related to the feud you two have going on. why bring it up? if anything you're the one now baiting. let it go before you catch something.The_Dud wrote: ↑Tue 06 Apr 2021 4:15pmCURLY wrote: ↑Tue 06 Apr 2021 2:34pmThe_Dud wrote: ↑Tue 06 Apr 2021 1:59pm Hill got plenty of it against Melbourne, and absolutely butchered it repeatedly. No one else to blame in the situation.
Every player has to go when it’s their turn to put their head over the ball, that should be a non-negotiable, no matter what a few of the casuals say.
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Dobbing would be reporting him.SaintPav wrote: ↑Thu 08 Apr 2021 2:40pmYes, dobbing is pretty black and white, Dud.The_Dud wrote: ↑Thu 08 Apr 2021 2:23amSeriously, sounds pretty black and white to me.desertsaint wrote: ↑Wed 07 Apr 2021 9:47pmseriously? his response was in no way related to the feud you two have going on. why bring it up? if anything you're the one now baiting. let it go before you catch something.The_Dud wrote: ↑Tue 06 Apr 2021 4:15pmCURLY wrote: ↑Tue 06 Apr 2021 2:34pmThe_Dud wrote: ↑Tue 06 Apr 2021 1:59pm Hill got plenty of it against Melbourne, and absolutely butchered it repeatedly. No one else to blame in the situation.
Every player has to go when it’s their turn to put their head over the ball, that should be a non-negotiable, no matter what a few of the casuals say.
He ran and presented all game though it wasn't as if he wasn't trying.The Dud and Curly:
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Semantics!The_Dud wrote: ↑Thu 08 Apr 2021 2:43pmDobbing would be reporting him.SaintPav wrote: ↑Thu 08 Apr 2021 2:40pmYes, dobbing is pretty black and white, Dud.The_Dud wrote: ↑Thu 08 Apr 2021 2:23amSeriously, sounds pretty black and white to me.desertsaint wrote: ↑Wed 07 Apr 2021 9:47pmseriously? his response was in no way related to the feud you two have going on. why bring it up? if anything you're the one now baiting. let it go before you catch something.The_Dud wrote: ↑Tue 06 Apr 2021 4:15pmCURLY wrote: ↑Tue 06 Apr 2021 2:34pmThe_Dud wrote: ↑Tue 06 Apr 2021 1:59pm Hill got plenty of it against Melbourne, and absolutely butchered it repeatedly. No one else to blame in the situation.
Every player has to go when it’s their turn to put their head over the ball, that should be a non-negotiable, no matter what a few of the casuals say.
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It comparing myself to Hill, but once I thought I could bowl, then, inexplicably on the big stage I lost all control of my line.
Captain was a decent guy, and they kept bowling me, assuming if get into the groove.
I didn’t. We lost. I lost it. Lost my marbles. Felt like sh:t for it. The more they were being nice to me by allowing me to bowl, the more pressure, I don’t know.
Awful.
Please don’t drop Hill.
Put him in a pocket - a forward pocket. I know his ability is to run, and the pocket might crank him , but let home run and chase. Run down those running defenders, tackle them, then use his slick skills to pick up and deliver sweetly.
Captain was a decent guy, and they kept bowling me, assuming if get into the groove.
I didn’t. We lost. I lost it. Lost my marbles. Felt like sh:t for it. The more they were being nice to me by allowing me to bowl, the more pressure, I don’t know.
Awful.
Please don’t drop Hill.
Put him in a pocket - a forward pocket. I know his ability is to run, and the pocket might crank him , but let home run and chase. Run down those running defenders, tackle them, then use his slick skills to pick up and deliver sweetly.
You're quite brilliant Shane, yeah..terrific!
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If he could be encouraged to run down and tackle opponents that’d be ace, but all he does is defensively lope and coralle. He needs a Malthouse type rocket, like the one that was delivered to Don Pyke. It turned him from a soft player into a hard one.
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At least Hill is fit and he fronts up and at least he attempts to earn his keep. We wouldn’t be having these discussions if the team was going well and we were winning
I like Bradley. I don’t think it’s purely his fault that the team is struggling, but fans are always going to vent and look for scapegoats.
I like Bradley. I don’t think it’s purely his fault that the team is struggling, but fans are always going to vent and look for scapegoats.
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I'm not pointing the finger at you in particular ..but gee there are some on here that have absolutely no idea....
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I couldn't agree more but he doesn't care enough at the moment and needs to get his head out of his arse. His past matters for zero right at the moment if he can't do the basics and give effort and tackling.
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It depends.
Stupid rules are meant to be broken, particularly if you have a legitimate reason. You just need to be prepared to cop the consequences of your actions.
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