Match Thread Saints v Giants Round 1 2021
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Re: Match Thread Saints v Giants Round 1 2021
Why were big sections of the stands almost empty?
Looked like about 10% of capacity.
What restrictions were in place?
Looked like about 10% of capacity.
What restrictions were in place?
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Re: Match Thread Saints v Giants Round 1 2021
Probably because they have no fans. Sounded like more Sainters there than GWS "fans".
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Re: Match Thread Saints v Giants Round 1 2021
If it was a marking contest, it was holding the man, arms wrapped around. You cant have it both ways.kosifantutti wrote: ↑Sun 21 Mar 2021 6:16pmWhat game were you watching or just trolling again?The_Dud wrote:Holding the ball with no tackle? Thank Eleni!![]()
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Re: Match Thread Saints v Giants Round 1 2021
Because of the flooding authorities had advised people to stay at home, many of the GWS supporters live in those flooded areasEnrico_Misso wrote: ↑Mon 22 Mar 2021 3:09am Why were big sections of the stands almost empty?
Looked like about 10% of capacity.
What restrictions were in place?
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Re: Match Thread Saints v Giants Round 1 2021
This is the most reasoned assessment of Eleni's abilities, particularly yesterday. Teflon touched on it as well. She did not like the look or sound of the tackle laid by Steele. There was nothing wrong with it, in fact the Giant was the perfect tackling bag. This alone shows a misunderstanding and lack of feel for the game at the highest level.Joffa Burns wrote: ↑Sun 21 Mar 2021 6:08pm Elani is absolutely incompetent and should never officiate in an AFL game again in my humble opinion.
She is not a cheat, just absolutely incompetent and over offciates.
She doubled down with the Butler free. That was either poor positioning, meaning she guessed or again got sucked in by the look and not the actual action.
She will pay jumper holding, rucks pushing out with hands etc all day long because those are simple, they are black & white.
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Re: Match Thread Saints v Giants Round 1 2021
Yep. Spot on. I recall texting my mate during the game, 'It's so obvious that she's never actually played the game at any sort of decent level, has no feel whatsoever.'Ghost Like wrote: ↑Mon 22 Mar 2021 8:23amThis is the most reasoned assessment of Eleni's abilities, particularly yesterday. Teflon touched on it as well. She did not like the look or sound of the tackle laid by Steele. There was nothing wrong with it, in fact the Giant was the perfect tackling bag. This alone shows a misunderstanding and lack of feel for the game at the highest level.Joffa Burns wrote: ↑Sun 21 Mar 2021 6:08pm Elani is absolutely incompetent and should never officiate in an AFL game again in my humble opinion.
She is not a cheat, just absolutely incompetent and over offciates.
She doubled down with the Butler free. That was either poor positioning, meaning she guessed or again got sucked in by the look and not the actual action.
She will pay jumper holding, rucks pushing out with hands etc all day long because those are simple, they are black & white.
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Re: Match Thread Saints v Giants Round 1 2021
NOperfectionist wrote: ↑Sun 21 Mar 2021 6:31pm I thought the umpiring was OK. On the last decision, because there was a prior opportunity, the player only had to be "legally tackled" for it to be holding the ball. The question is, was it a slight grab rather than a push? If it was a push, no free. Slight grab - correct decision. The position of the umpire may have made it look more of a tackle than it was. The previous free was soft, so this may have been a square up softie. In any event, we won by more than a goal.
A player in possession must dispose of the ball by kicking or handpassing unless the ball is knocked loose in a TACKLE.
But if the player has had prior opportunity and is tackled it is holding the ball.
So if it is deemed to be a tackle then it is holding the ball, if it is not a tackle then it is incorrect disposal of the ball.
Either way it is clearly a free kick.
As for the play on without waiting 30 seconds for a shot on goal.
It is play on if the player is clearly wasting time and definitely play on if they have not started their run in at 30 seconds.
At every ground there are at least two score boards showing the count down clock so players milk the clock taking in big deep breathes, cleaning the ball, taking out their mouth guards and cleaning their teeth and the like.
But this was played at the Sydney Show Grounds.
Only one scoreboard showing the count down clock.
Butler turned away from goal to watch the count down clock.
The umpire saw this and called play on.
But Butler's kicking technique is so good it did not matter.
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Re: Match Thread Saints v Giants Round 1 2021
Perhaps as a site administrator you could deal with the trolling on the match day thread Kossi?kosifantutti wrote: ↑Sun 21 Mar 2021 6:16pmWhat game were you watching or just trolling again?The_Dud wrote:Holding the ball with no tackle? Thank Eleni!![]()
The match day thread would be better reading if The Dud & Curly were banned from trolling it.
Perhaps each week they could have an umpires thread where they can post as much as they wish without dominating what should be a read of opinion and the match in general.
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Re: Match Thread Saints v Giants Round 1 2021
Nah - the rule has been amended since its introduction so that if you deliberately 'waste' time by looking at the scoreboard to use your full 30 seconds then the umps call play on. Incidentally, it was amended after Mason Wood did the same thing to us with his shot from the boundary line whilst playing for NorthSainter_Dad wrote: ↑Sun 21 Mar 2021 8:00pmPlay on was called very quickly as well - excuse given that he was trying to ice the game - I would think that the 30 second rule when kicking for goal should be applied identically in the first 2 minutes or the last 2 minutes.perfectionist wrote: ↑Sun 21 Mar 2021 6:31pm I thought the umpiring was OK. On the last decision, because there was a prior opportunity, the player only had to be "legally tackled" for it to be holding the ball. The question is, was it a slight grab rather than a push? If it was a push, no free. Slight grab - correct decision. The position of the umpire may have made it look more of a tackle than it was. The previous free was soft, so this may have been a square up softie. In any event, we won by more than a goal.
Oh - and if they thought he had no chance of kicking the goal therefore the 30 seconds should not apply - HE KICKED IT
I have seen more time wasting than Butler.
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Re: Match Thread Saints v Giants Round 1 2021
Correct. The ball spilled from Ward to Higgins who was off to the races 30 m from goal. It was actually more likely that he kicks that than Butler's shot with the man on the mark rushing at him during his set shotCrossy66 wrote: ↑Sun 21 Mar 2021 8:10pmThis is spot on. The commentary made it sound like it was the reason we won the game. Interestingly the two closest players when the ball spilt were both saints, so likely result a shot on goal by Gresham.terry smith rules wrote: ↑Sun 21 Mar 2021 6:38pm Yes that decision was controversial
However don’t forget we were still in front at the time
There was 1.10 on the clock with a (if the free wasn’t paid) disputed ball in the forward line. GWS would have needed a quick clearing kick and a lot of luck to go coast to coast in 70 seconds
They might have been a 5% chance to do that
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Re: Match Thread Saints v Giants Round 1 2021
Absolutely.Joffa Burns wrote: ↑Mon 22 Mar 2021 1:36pmPerhaps as a site administrator you could deal with the trolling on the match day thread Kossi?kosifantutti wrote: ↑Sun 21 Mar 2021 6:16pmWhat game were you watching or just trolling again?The_Dud wrote:Holding the ball with no tackle? Thank Eleni!![]()
The match day thread would be better reading if The Dud & Curly were banned from trolling it.
Perhaps each week they could have an umpires thread where they can post as much as they wish without dominating what should be a read of opinion and the match in general.
I've been saying for years, there should be the gameday thread to talk about the Saints and how we're going, and then another thread for irrational sooking about umpires that Curly and friends can spam as much as they like.
Get it done.
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Re: Match Thread Saints v Giants Round 1 2021
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i knocked this off from another discussion
I thought the umpiring was OK. On the last decision, because there was a prior opportunity, the player only had to be "legally tackled" for it to be holding the ball. The question is, was it a slight grab rather than a push? If it was a push, no free. Slight grab - correct decision. The position of the umpire may have made it look more of a tackle than it was.
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A player in possession must dispose of the ball by kicking or handpassing unless the ball is knocked loose in a TACKLE.
But if the player has had prior opportunity and is tackled it is holding the ball.
So if it is deemed to be a tackle then it is holding the ball, if it is not a tackle then it is incorrect disposal of the ball.
Either way it is clearly a free kick.
i knocked this off from another discussion
AFL Rules: (my emphasis)
Where the field Umpire is satisfied that a Player in possession of the football:
(i) has had a prior opportunity to dispose of the football, the field Umpire shall award a Free Kick against that Player if the Player does not Correctly Dispose of the football immediately when they are Correctly Tackled;
(ii) has not had a prior opportunity to dispose of the football, the field Umpire shall award a Free Kick against that Player if, upon being Correctly Tackled, the Player does not Correctly Dispose or genuinely attempt to Correctly Dispose of the football after being given a reasonable opportunity to do so.
Excellent bump but not a tackle thus play on was the correct call.
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Re: Match Thread Saints v Giants Round 1 2021
I'm no longer moderating. You'd best take it up with backfromusa but I don't think any moderator will be doing much during the game.Joffa Burns wrote: ↑Mon 22 Mar 2021 1:36pmPerhaps as a site administrator you could deal with the trolling on the match day thread Kossi?kosifantutti wrote: ↑Sun 21 Mar 2021 6:16pmWhat game were you watching or just trolling again?The_Dud wrote:Holding the ball with no tackle? Thank Eleni!![]()
The match day thread would be better reading if The Dud & Curly were banned from trolling it.
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That's sounds plausible, or maybe it was an Islamic holy day!terry smith rules wrote: ↑Mon 22 Mar 2021 8:09amBecause of the flooding authorities had advised people to stay at home, many of the GWS supporters live in those flooded areasEnrico_Misso wrote: ↑Mon 22 Mar 2021 3:09am Why were big sections of the stands almost empty?
Looked like about 10% of capacity.
What restrictions were in place?
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Re: Match Thread Saints v Giants Round 1 2021
Flooding coming back to an AFL ground near you.terry smith rules wrote: ↑Mon 22 Mar 2021 8:09amBecause of the flooding authorities had advised people to stay at home, many of the GWS supporters live in those flooded areasEnrico_Misso wrote: ↑Mon 22 Mar 2021 3:09am Why were big sections of the stands almost empty?
Looked like about 10% of capacity.
What restrictions were in place?
Only way to defend with the new rule changes.
But that should not deter you going to a game.
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Re: Match Thread Saints v Giants Round 1 2021
Ah Billings Method I see what you did here. You came back at my comments by inserting your disgusting Tayla comments within my “quote” , so maybe others (including mods) would miss itThe Billings Method wrote: ↑Sun 21 Mar 2021 11:29pmterry smith rules wrote: ↑Sun 21 Mar 2021 7:44pmI think you are a sad excuse ....The Billings Method wrote: ↑Sun 21 Mar 2021 7:28pm Tayla Harris has a statue in her honour in the precincts of the MCG. She joins the likes of Miller, Lillee, Bartlett et. Al. For one kick which she was trolled for. Forget about the great athletes of the past. Give it to a nobody who's never achieved anything but being trolled for a "pose. Good grief!
Beautifully put, you sad excuse for a virtue signalling goose. Well done. She really deserved that statue. Right up there with Betty Cuthbert, Shirley Jackson etc. for her achievements which amounts to her forgetting to put on her underpants prior to kicking for goal. Well done.
Worthy of a statue with the likes of Cuthbert, Jackson, Fraser et Al. Maybe there are 9 statues because their achievements are justified by their efforts. Like forgetting to put on her panties prior to playing. My women are worthy and proud of me. They hate pathetic cuck, virtue signalling dirt like you who demean women with your condescending crap.
In Victoria there are 9 statues of women representing 1.5% of all statues, but hey you want to suppress them more
The statue of Harris was done as generalisation of women’s footy (it just happened to be her amazing kick that was the model)
Your women family and friends must be very proud of you
Well here it is
If your women family members are so proud of you , maybe you’d like to repeat your comment to them
Sad that history is going to pass you by...
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Nice work Terry. These dinosaurs are getting jumpy because they can feel their extinction getting closer every day.terry smith rules wrote: ↑Wed 24 Mar 2021 2:07pmAh Billings Method I see what you did here. You came back at my comments by inserting your disgusting Tayla comments within my “quote” , so maybe others (including mods) would miss itThe Billings Method wrote: ↑Sun 21 Mar 2021 11:29pmterry smith rules wrote: ↑Sun 21 Mar 2021 7:44pmI think you are a sad excuse ....The Billings Method wrote: ↑Sun 21 Mar 2021 7:28pm Tayla Harris has a statue in her honour in the precincts of the MCG. She joins the likes of Miller, Lillee, Bartlett et. Al. For one kick which she was trolled for. Forget about the great athletes of the past. Give it to a nobody who's never achieved anything but being trolled for a "pose. Good grief!
Beautifully put, you sad excuse for a virtue signalling goose. Well done. She really deserved that statue. Right up there with Betty Cuthbert, Shirley Jackson etc. for her achievements which amounts to her forgetting to put on her underpants prior to kicking for goal. Well done.
Worthy of a statue with the likes of Cuthbert, Jackson, Fraser et Al. Maybe there are 9 statues because their achievements are justified by their efforts. Like forgetting to put on her panties prior to playing. My women are worthy and proud of me. They hate pathetic cuck, virtue signalling dirt like you who demean women with your condescending crap.
In Victoria there are 9 statues of women representing 1.5% of all statues, but hey you want to suppress them more
The statue of Harris was done as generalisation of women’s footy (it just happened to be her amazing kick that was the model)
Your women family and friends must be very proud of you
Well here it is
If your women family members are so proud of you , maybe you’d like to repeat your comment to them
Sad that history is going to pass you by...
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