Marshall injury

[B.M]

Was he that effective as a forward?

How many goals did he kick whilst playing forward last season?

Not saying he ain’t a great player, he clearly is! And is a good forward/ruck purely because he has the ability to play ruck - very well which a lot of forwards can’t really do.

I’d have him as an 8/10 ruckman and 5/10 forward

[sunsaint]

Ok now I'm starting to worry, I've been saying all pre season we are capable of improving on last season's performance if we have some luck with injury.

Luck is a key ingredient with this brutal game huh...

yeah but I reckon luck went our way last year
injuries, draw, hub etc

[sunsaint]

Was he that effective as a forward?

How many goals did he kick whilst playing forward last season?

Not saying he ain’t a great player, he clearly is! And is a good forward/ruck purely because he has the ability to play ruck - very well which a lot of forwards can’t really do.

I’d have him as an 8/10 ruckman and 5/10 forward

for a ruck sized player its his ground work that would scare opposition coaches and players - you missed that bit

[bigcarl]

Was he that effective as a forward?

How many goals did he kick whilst playing forward last season?

Not saying he ain’t a great player, he clearly is! And is a good forward/ruck purely because he has the ability to play ruck - very well which a lot of forwards can’t really do.

I’d have him as an 8/10 ruckman and 5/10 forward

Couple of things. Ryder, if fit, is first ruck. I think he proved that pretty conclusively last season.

Second, Marshall's already a good forward and will get better. He needs a good player on him.

He's strong, smart and a booming kick for goal. If Marshall isn't forward we are asking a lot of Max King to be the sole true tall.

[Gershwin]

Was he that effective as a forward?

How many goals did he kick whilst playing forward last season?

Not saying he ain’t a great player, he clearly is! And is a good forward/ruck purely because he has the ability to play ruck - very well which a lot of forwards can’t really do.

I’d have him as an 8/10 ruckman and 5/10 forward

Couple of things. Ryder, if fit, is first ruck. I think he proved that pretty conclusively last season.

Second, Marshall's already a good forward and will get better. He needs a good player on him.

He's strong, smart and a booming kick for goal. If Marshall isn't forward we are asking a lot of Max King to be the sole true tall.

Come on down McKernan. Strong body needs to present and take pressure off King. Don't want to kill the kid.

[CQ SAINT]

With a stress fracture of the foot?

That foot has to lug 100kg around a footy ground!

They are saying there is no fracture. I'm guessing a they have done an MRI and can see degradation in the bone structure, which is a constant regenerative process anyway.

Rest, immobilisation, anti inflammatory drugs and aggressive hyperbaric oxygen treatment could turn this around in 3 or 4 weeks. He is a fit healthy young man and he should be able to loosen the foot up quickly. Im hoping they are not f****** around.

[B.M]

What was better

Ryder 2020 season in the ruck
Or
Marshall 2019 season in the ruck

[CQ SAINT]

What was better

Ryder 2020 season in the ruck
Or
Marshall 2019 season in the ruck

Ryder and Marshall combined, turned an average 11 point deficit in hit outs into a 1 point win. Marshall averaged 24 in 19 and Ryder 21 in 20. That a huge turnaround.

They also impacted on an average 2.4 point deficit in clearances to a .4 point win.
Ryder averaged 2.0 clearances in 2020 Marshall maintained 2.7 for both years.

Marshall's 2019 was outstanding in terms of possession and metres gained but much less efficient than Ryder's 2020 in pure ruckwork.

You could toss a coin. But Marshall with Ryder is a hands down winner.

[Scollop]

Just looked at Dr Google and their best case is 12 weeks, hopefully he is not that long. He is the one unique player we dont have a backup for. McKernan is the closest but has no where the impact of Roma.

Roma should check the web for free before Dr Google starts charging for health and nutrition

https://www.everydayhealth.com/diet-nut ... ing-foods/

[SaintPav]

Just looked at Dr Google and their best case is 12 weeks, hopefully he is not that long. He is the one unique player we dont have a backup for. McKernan is the closest but has no where the impact of Roma.

Roma should check the web for free before Dr Google starts charging for health and nutrition

https://www.everydayhealth.com/diet-nut ... ing-foods/

Google are already charging us, Scollop.

There is a saying in the software industry that if you aren’t paying for a product, then the product is you.

There's no free lunch, ever.

Food for thought.

[bigcarl]

Was he that effective as a forward?

How many goals did he kick whilst playing forward last season?

Not saying he ain’t a great player, he clearly is! And is a good forward/ruck purely because he has the ability to play ruck - very well which a lot of forwards can’t really do.

I’d have him as an 8/10 ruckman and 5/10 forward

Couple of things. Ryder, if fit, is first ruck. I think he proved that pretty conclusively last season.

Second, Marshall's already a good forward and will get better. He needs a good player on him.

He's strong, smart and a booming kick for goal. If Marshall isn't forward we are asking a lot of Max King to be the sole true tall.

Come on down McKernan. Strong body needs to present and take pressure off King. Don't want to kill the kid.

Battle would provide more as a forward IMO. But we’d probably still need McKernan as a relief ruckman.

[The Billings Method]

I can't stop thinking about Hird's troubles with foot fractures. Matt Egan isn't worth thinking about. Let's hope it stays as stress fractures/hotspots. He's the one player we can least afford to lose.

[The Fireman]

can he play in a moon boot ?

[saintsRrising]

can he play in a moon boot ?

Violin yes, football no...

[Ghost Like]

can he play in a moon boot ?

Quite possibly, some of our players kick as if they are wearing one.

[Joffa Burns]

The audacious bid for little known Essendon big man Sam Draper know looks a brilliant ploy, however unsuccessful it turned out to be.

Draper looked like a real prospect in his few games last season and would fill the Marshall void this year and be a force in Tandem with Marshall for years to come.

We didn't land him but great foresight by the recruiters IMO as it raised a lot of eyebrows at the time.

[B.M]

Draper would have been nice

Too good to be at Sandy though, would he be ahead of Ryder?

Did we go after Draper before Ryder?

[The Billings Method]

Draper will be a star. Eventually.

[SaintPav]

Marshall’s injury means Battle must now play as a key forward for a good month or so. It might work out well.

[stkfc1]

Marshall’s injury means Battle must now play as a key forward for a good month or so. It might work out well.

I reckon we're going to see a breakout year from Josh. He needs to be played forward all year. Reckon he may win a game or two of his own boot this year. Very Bullish.

[Ghost Like]

Yes JB, very astute. I believe Draper was on the radar before Paddy. I'm hoping Paddy's legs hold up & he wants to play through 2022.

Outside the box is Carlisle. Whilst he allegedly has resisted playing forward in the past. It may be his awakening if Frawley is preferred in the back half. Add to that Highmore & Clavarino. A key forward spot may be Carlisle's position unless he really likes the Zebs colours.

[bigcarl]

Yes JB, very astute. I believe Draper was on the radar before Paddy. I'm hoping Paddy's legs hold up & he wants to play through 2022.

Outside the box is Carlisle. Whilst he allegedly has resisted playing forward in the past. It may be his awakening if Frawley is preferred in the back half. Add to that Highmore & Clavarino. A key forward spot may be Carlisle's position unless he really likes the Zebs colours.

Agree. It’s in Carlisle’s best interests to begin making himself more versatile. Always thought he could play ruck or forward if necessary, but he’s made it clear he wants to stay in his pet position of intercept defender. Might be time for a rethink on that Jake

[Saintmatt]

Marshall’s injury means Battle must now play as a key forward for a good month or so. It might work out well.

... or Wood ...

I think Battle will be used as a swing man off the bench to fill a hole where needed and/or pinch hit forward or back.

If Wood plays well against Carlscum on Thurs night then, I think that'll cement his place as a starting forward for R1

[The_Dud]

Do we really think Frawley is a better player than Jake??

[Saintmatt]

Marshall’s injury means Battle must now play as a key forward for a good month or so. It might work out well.

I reckon we're going to see a breakout year from Josh. He needs to be played forward all year. Reckon he may win a game or two of his own boot this year. Very Bullish.

Agreed. His 3rd q against the Tigers was pretty much the only time in that final we looked competitive. I have a feeling though that because he's showed that he's so versatile, he might get swung around (which I don't mind either - it's great to have a player that can be used to change it up).