Yes, Nicky was one of the best players I've ever seen. The newspapers even changed their constant reference to him as "the mercurial Nicky Winmar" over time, because he became so reliably brilliant.skeptic wrote: ↑Wed 30 Dec 2020 1:04pm Yes the possibilities are endless
There is very little rationale evidence as to why one wouldn’t pick a Tony Lockett or a Robert Harvey in just about any scenario but IMO neither would be the perfect choice for this team.
A new Nick Riewoldt too would be an incredible addition...
But personally right now... imagine an in his prime, Nicky Winmar just slotting into our midfield rotation, and resting up forward if he needs to slow down from super sonic speed to a gentle sprint
King would take 15 marks a game up forward
I just watched this video and am feeling a bit hyped about the wizard... it has been posted here before but nonetheless check out the goal VS Collingwood at exactly 10min
It is unbelievable
Definitely my first choice... otherwise prove me wrong
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Rooey would go all right at CHF in that team I reckon
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Winmar is one of the most underrated players ever! The fact Michael Long is rated as high just shows you how underrated he was!
Could do it all
Take contested marks (and hangers)
Tackle
Find lots of the ball consistently
Kick it 60 or drill a pass
Pick it up one handed at pace
Kick goals
Not sure he had a weakness
Other than reacting to racism and losing concentration
Could do it all
Take contested marks (and hangers)
Tackle
Find lots of the ball consistently
Kick it 60 or drill a pass
Pick it up one handed at pace
Kick goals
Not sure he had a weakness
Other than reacting to racism and losing concentration
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According to one of his teammates he was exempt from having to listen to strategies etc in team meetings!B.M wrote: ↑Fri 01 Jan 2021 2:19pm Winmar is one of the most underrated players ever! The fact Michael Long is rated as high just shows you how underrated he was!
Could do it all
Take contested marks (and hangers)
Tackle
Find lots of the ball consistently
Kick it 60 or drill a pass
Pick it up one handed at pace
Kick goals
Not sure he had a weakness
Other than reacting to racism and losing concentration
Also reputedly had serious drinking problems-Imagine how great he could otherwise have been!
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Yes
Off field I’m not sure he was too reliable, even a bit unstable
He was at home on the football field showcasing his sublime talent!
I have seen too many players with his pure skill and class
Off field I’m not sure he was too reliable, even a bit unstable
He was at home on the football field showcasing his sublime talent!
I have seen too many players with his pure skill and class
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I think that was from Stan Alves’ bookwhiskers3614 wrote: ↑Fri 01 Jan 2021 2:40pmAccording to one of his teammates he was exempt from having to listen to strategies etc in team meetings!B.M wrote: ↑Fri 01 Jan 2021 2:19pm Winmar is one of the most underrated players ever! The fact Michael Long is rated as high just shows you how underrated he was!
Could do it all
Take contested marks (and hangers)
Tackle
Find lots of the ball consistently
Kick it 60 or drill a pass
Pick it up one handed at pace
Kick goals
Not sure he had a weakness
Other than reacting to racism and losing concentration
Also reputedly had serious drinking problems-Imagine how great he could otherwise have been!
Sense was that he was an instinctual player that they really couldn’t teach any thing too... and he didn’t need it... but they had trouble getting him to meetings so the compromise was come and just sit there pretending to listen
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My first quote and I did it by accident
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Won’t happen again!!!
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Appropriately, you quoted yourself, so we won't count that as anything out of the usual.
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Ah...
A bit of baiting?
Nice one, a personal dig... well done!
I’ll take it as a compliment
A bit of baiting?
Nice one, a personal dig... well done!
I’ll take it as a compliment
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By a player type we lack.....Ian Stewart = ELITE mid.
But I would still go for Lockett! Just imagine him in a good team.
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It was a compliment. I love people who dont care for convention, its a very self righteous thing to do. I love self righteous people.
Personal?? Was that personal? I dont know you that well. I think you might be getting a little presumptuous. It was just a dig and possibly a little humorous too. No offence intended but I feel safe to say, you don't often get offended. You lied though, you've quoted yourself twice now.
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just another day on farm
the old bull and the young bull
were in the top paddock
checking out their domain
when the farmers truck pulled in off the highway
and unloaded 17 new heifers
the young fella
was doing cartwheels
went all a bit cowstruck
and cried out
lets go , c’mon
lets get down their quick
and jump one of them things
the old bull
smiled
quietly to himself
and replied
take it easy chickenlegs
how about we just amble down this ‘ere hill
all cool bull like
and jump em all
the old bull and the young bull
were in the top paddock
checking out their domain
when the farmers truck pulled in off the highway
and unloaded 17 new heifers
the young fella
was doing cartwheels
went all a bit cowstruck
and cried out
lets go , c’mon
lets get down their quick
and jump one of them things
the old bull
smiled
quietly to himself
and replied
take it easy chickenlegs
how about we just amble down this ‘ere hill
all cool bull like
and jump em all
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No one can force you to quote but except to cop some flack for it occasionally.
You’re not that special mate.
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I would only add Winmar on condition that his father promised not to die 24 hours ahead of a Grand Final.
It should have been Nicky's crowning achievement, a premiership.
But his father died, a devastated Winmar still played but understandably it was his worst ever game.
He would have towelled his young opponent, a young kid called McLeod.
But instead McLeod wins the Norm Smith.
Stewart Loewe had a stinker prevented from having an influence by a ruckman named David Pittman tasked with stopping Loewe marking.
The other stinker was Jamie Shanahan at full back.
It was the premiership St Kilda should have won.
It should have been Nicky's crowning achievement, a premiership.
But his father died, a devastated Winmar still played but understandably it was his worst ever game.
He would have towelled his young opponent, a young kid called McLeod.
But instead McLeod wins the Norm Smith.
Stewart Loewe had a stinker prevented from having an influence by a ruckman named David Pittman tasked with stopping Loewe marking.
The other stinker was Jamie Shanahan at full back.
It was the premiership St Kilda should have won.
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I don’t know if this is meant to be humorous but it seems to be in very poor tasteace wrote: ↑Sat 02 Jan 2021 9:53am I would only add Winmar on condition that his father promised not to die 24 hours ahead of a Grand Final.
It should have been Nicky's crowning achievement, a premiership.
But his father died, a devastated Winmar still played but understandably it was his worst ever game.
He would have towelled his young opponent, a young kid called McLeod.
But instead McLeod wins the Norm Smith.
Stewart Loewe had a stinker prevented from having an influence by a ruckman tasked with stopping Loewe marking.
It was the premiership St Kilda should have won.
Loewe IIRC had a major family crisis that w/e that would have seen him miss if it had happened on any other w/e
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I know, but he has to make way for Lockett ... like everyone else did.Harves Man wrote: ↑Fri 01 Jan 2021 1:40pmUnderstand what you're saying, but King to second ruck is like taking your Rolls Royce to work, to pick up bricks.
I reckon he’d be a pretty handy ruckman, too, though injuries would be the worry.
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I knew of a wealthy family in Sth Aussie that used their Rolls to round up the sheep. They took the back doors off so that the sheep dogs could jump in and out easily. True story.bigcarl wrote: ↑Sat 02 Jan 2021 11:31amI know, but he has to make way for Lockett ... like everyone else did.Harves Man wrote: ↑Fri 01 Jan 2021 1:40pmUnderstand what you're saying, but King to second ruck is like taking your Rolls Royce to work, to pick up bricks.
I reckon he’d be a pretty handy ruckman, too, though injuries would be the worry.
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haha
have a kiwi mate
from the Future Rulers Education System of NZ
who tells nearly the same story
except they used it for spotlighting
have a kiwi mate
from the Future Rulers Education System of NZ
who tells nearly the same story
except they used it for spotlighting
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Yes, I don't disagree (on both counts - Lockett was the greatest player I've ever seen).bigcarl wrote: ↑Sat 02 Jan 2021 11:31amI know, but he has to make way for Lockett ... like everyone else did.Harves Man wrote: ↑Fri 01 Jan 2021 1:40pmUnderstand what you're saying, but King to second ruck is like taking your Rolls Royce to work, to pick up bricks.
I reckon he’d be a pretty handy ruckman, too, though injuries would be the worry.
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haha
it was a Bentley
the boys used it to spotlight rabbits near their airstrip
in the bay of islands
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Agree 100%. I was with a bunch of Pie supporters a couple of years ago and I posed the question ...if you could have 1 St Kilda player who would it be? Lenny Hayes was the unanimous choice. Smart, talented, tough as nails and a great leader.
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Totally agree! Although I still think that Nicky Winmar or Robert Harvey could slot into any team, in any era and immediately make a big difference.happy feet wrote: ↑Fri 08 Jan 2021 5:17pmAgree 100%. I was with a bunch of Pie supporters a couple of years ago and I posed the question ...if you could have 1 St Kilda player who would it be? Lenny Hayes was the unanimous choice. Smart, talented, tough as nails and a great leader.
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The doc would be handy at CHF in today's team.Harves Man wrote: ↑Sat 09 Jan 2021 4:41amTotally agree! Although I still think that Nicky Winmar or Robert Harvey could slot into any team, in any era and immediately make a big difference.happy feet wrote: ↑Fri 08 Jan 2021 5:17pmAgree 100%. I was with a bunch of Pie supporters a couple of years ago and I posed the question ...if you could have 1 St Kilda player who would it be? Lenny Hayes was the unanimous choice. Smart, talented, tough as nails and a great leader.