Are you kidding me! I would trade out Gresham for Treloar. Gresham can't kick over a jam tin.bigcarl wrote: ↑Tue 10 Nov 2020 10:02amEven then I don’t want him. Good player, but we’d have to play him in the midfield every week, keeping Clark consigned to the HBF and Gresham to the forward pocket.
Not saying no to quality imports per se, just making the case for developing what we have already.
Any case, I believe Lethlean ruled Treloar out. Too costly.
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Surely Richo could convince Melbourne to take McKenzie and Lonie, since he rated them so highly.SaintPav wrote: ↑Tue 10 Nov 2020 10:02amConvincing him isn’t the issue. Convincing another club to take him is though.Gershwin wrote: ↑Tue 10 Nov 2020 9:24amAny word on McKenzie? Is contracted but unlikely to play Seniors. Surely he could be convinced to try elsewhere.ace wrote: ↑Mon 09 Nov 2020 11:57pmWebster has already said absolutely no to being traded to an Adelaide club.SaintPelican66 wrote: ↑Mon 09 Nov 2020 10:20pm I will also say that once Higgins is over the line we will turn our attention to Treloar as I mentioned in another post. He hasn't nominated us because we don't know if we can fit him in. If the Bulldogs take Lonie and Essendon take Hind, then all we would need to do is find a home for Webster.....Adelaide? If all these dominos fall into place then expect us to offer our first pick (which will be Richmond's actually), to Collingfilth for Treloar but that is on the proviso that the Pies pay $200,000 per year for the entire contract. How likely is this to happen? It will take a bloody miracle but that is what the plan is. Nobody has to believe me and if you want to take everything I am saying with a grain of salt then be my guest.
He lives in Melbourne.
Roberton, Webster and Dunstan maybe on the table but they have contracts so only have to swap clubs if they want.
Other clubs are unlikely to improve on those contracts.
Tyres have been kicked but no-one has reached for their wallet yet.
Lonie & Hind may be tradeable.
Essendon have sniffed at Hind but Dildo is probably hoping the Saints will be forced to delist him.
Dildo will then have an orgasm as he grabs Hind as a delisted free agent.
If only he could fix up his kicking.
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No, I am not kidding you at all. You saw what happened to our season when he fell over. No one creative in the middle. Also, Treloar is no great shakes when it comes to disposal. Maybe worse than Gresham. I’ve heard him described as a ball-butcher.magnifisaint wrote: ↑Tue 10 Nov 2020 10:52amAre you kidding me! I would trade out Gresham for Treloar. Gresham can't kick over a jam tin.bigcarl wrote: ↑Tue 10 Nov 2020 10:02amEven then I don’t want him. Good player, but we’d have to play him in the midfield every week, keeping Clark consigned to the HBF and Gresham to the forward pocket.
Not saying no to quality imports per se, just making the case for developing what we have already.
Any case, I believe Lethlean ruled Treloar out. Too costly.
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When he said "too costly" he was referring to draft pick capital. We haven't got it and we don't want to trade future firsts. Treloar is a gun and with Crouch would transform us. All of a sudden - we don't only have just Steele that needs looking after; but also Jones, and Crouch, and Treloar ... then add Gresham and Hunter and Jack Higgins and perhaps Coff. It's not about keeping Clark out of the middle - it's about building a deeper midfield group to rotate. You simply cannot have enough midfielders in your group.bigcarl wrote: ↑Tue 10 Nov 2020 10:02amEven then I don’t want him. Good player, but we’d have to play him in the midfield every week, keeping Clark consigned to the HBF and Gresham to the forward pocket.
Not saying no to quality imports per se, just making the case for developing what we have already.
Any case, I believe Lethlean ruled Treloar out. Too costly.
If we paid our first 2020 pick to the Pies for Treloar and the Pies paid $250K - PER ANNUM FOR THE LIFE OF HIS CURRENT 5 YEAR CONTRACT - then I'd do it. That would put him basically on the same $ as Crouch (and he's every bit as good as Crouch).
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We all get that you don’t like Lonie.saintbob wrote: ↑Tue 10 Nov 2020 11:34amSurely Richo could convince Melbourne to take McKenzie and Lonie, since he rated them so highly.SaintPav wrote: ↑Tue 10 Nov 2020 10:02amConvincing him isn’t the issue. Convincing another club to take him is though.Gershwin wrote: ↑Tue 10 Nov 2020 9:24amAny word on McKenzie? Is contracted but unlikely to play Seniors. Surely he could be convinced to try elsewhere.ace wrote: ↑Mon 09 Nov 2020 11:57pmWebster has already said absolutely no to being traded to an Adelaide club.SaintPelican66 wrote: ↑Mon 09 Nov 2020 10:20pm I will also say that once Higgins is over the line we will turn our attention to Treloar as I mentioned in another post. He hasn't nominated us because we don't know if we can fit him in. If the Bulldogs take Lonie and Essendon take Hind, then all we would need to do is find a home for Webster.....Adelaide? If all these dominos fall into place then expect us to offer our first pick (which will be Richmond's actually), to Collingfilth for Treloar but that is on the proviso that the Pies pay $200,000 per year for the entire contract. How likely is this to happen? It will take a bloody miracle but that is what the plan is. Nobody has to believe me and if you want to take everything I am saying with a grain of salt then be my guest.
He lives in Melbourne.
Roberton, Webster and Dunstan maybe on the table but they have contracts so only have to swap clubs if they want.
Other clubs are unlikely to improve on those contracts.
Tyres have been kicked but no-one has reached for their wallet yet.
Lonie & Hind may be tradeable.
Essendon have sniffed at Hind but Dildo is probably hoping the Saints will be forced to delist him.
Dildo will then have an orgasm as he grabs Hind as a delisted free agent.
If only he could fix up his kicking.
At worst he’ll be a back up player if Higgins comes.
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I know they are in trouble with their salary cap, but that sounds an extremely unlikely solution for them.
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If Higgins comes Lonie will not be at the club, we’ll withdraw the contract offer and he’ll end up in the preseason draft and I reckon that’s what the Bulldogs are banking on as they don’t want to pay for him.SaintPav wrote: ↑Tue 10 Nov 2020 12:17pmWe all get that you don’t like Lonie.saintbob wrote: ↑Tue 10 Nov 2020 11:34amSurely Richo could convince Melbourne to take McKenzie and Lonie, since he rated them so highly.SaintPav wrote: ↑Tue 10 Nov 2020 10:02amConvincing him isn’t the issue. Convincing another club to take him is though.Gershwin wrote: ↑Tue 10 Nov 2020 9:24amAny word on McKenzie? Is contracted but unlikely to play Seniors. Surely he could be convinced to try elsewhere.ace wrote: ↑Mon 09 Nov 2020 11:57pmWebster has already said absolutely no to being traded to an Adelaide club.SaintPelican66 wrote: ↑Mon 09 Nov 2020 10:20pm I will also say that once Higgins is over the line we will turn our attention to Treloar as I mentioned in another post. He hasn't nominated us because we don't know if we can fit him in. If the Bulldogs take Lonie and Essendon take Hind, then all we would need to do is find a home for Webster.....Adelaide? If all these dominos fall into place then expect us to offer our first pick (which will be Richmond's actually), to Collingfilth for Treloar but that is on the proviso that the Pies pay $200,000 per year for the entire contract. How likely is this to happen? It will take a bloody miracle but that is what the plan is. Nobody has to believe me and if you want to take everything I am saying with a grain of salt then be my guest.
He lives in Melbourne.
Roberton, Webster and Dunstan maybe on the table but they have contracts so only have to swap clubs if they want.
Other clubs are unlikely to improve on those contracts.
Tyres have been kicked but no-one has reached for their wallet yet.
Lonie & Hind may be tradeable.
Essendon have sniffed at Hind but Dildo is probably hoping the Saints will be forced to delist him.
Dildo will then have an orgasm as he grabs Hind as a delisted free agent.
If only he could fix up his kicking.
At worst he’ll be a back up player if Higgins comes.
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Either way, we are not here to make Collingwood's problems go away, let alone pay for the privilege. Pass the popcorn please.
Forget Treloar, would rather throw good $$$ at Merrett next year whilst developing Clark, Bytel, Gresham, Byrnes and Higgins in our midfield.
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It turns out that Treloar is on $900K for the last 3 years of his present 5 year contract. Funnily enough - presuming DeGoey re-signs for 2 years ... that $900K pa money will kick in precisely at the time when DeGoey becomes a RFA and they'll need every penny to retain him.Ghost Like wrote: ↑Tue 10 Nov 2020 12:45pmEither way, we are not here to make Collingwood's problems go away, let alone pay for the privilege. Pass the popcorn please.
Forget Treloar, would rather throw good $$$ at Merrett next year whilst developing Clark, Bytel, Gresham, Byrnes and Higgins in our midfield.
It's pretty clear that Adam's market value is approx $700K-ish pa but that money he's owed from the old contracts that they smoothed into his new 5 year deal is what's making anyone taking over his deal prohibitive.
What I've heard is that every club who's spoken to Collingwood about potentially taking Treloar is that the Pies will have to pay AT LEAST $200K per annum over the life of his 5 year contract for anyone to take over his deal as none of Adam's potential new suitors haven't previously structured their own list cap structures to accommodate another player on $900K.
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Thanks for the headsup asiu. I only have 2 and a half days left on Saintsational now. It's sad really becuase I have been posting on here since the beginning which if my memory is correct was before 2000.asiu wrote: ↑Tue 10 Nov 2020 11:51amits not the moderators you should be worried about imoStaying on until the end of Trade period 2020. Unless I get banned beforehand. Fingers crossed I don't upset the moderators too much.
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Actually it might have been mid 2000's. I think I am remembering the forerunner to Saintsational which was Saintsmania.
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I do, that was my site. Thanks for the trip down memory lane.SaintPelican66 wrote: ↑Tue 10 Nov 2020 1:37pm Actually it might have been mid 2000's. I think I am remembering the forerunner to Saintsational which was Saintsmania.Anyone remember?
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No Pelican you flew in on the 16 September 2020 at 7:23PM. (2 days before Vortex)SaintPelican66 wrote: ↑Tue 10 Nov 2020 1:34pmThanks for the headsup asiu. I only have 2 and a half days left on Saintsational now. It's sad really becuase I have been posting on here since the beginning which if my memory is correct was before 2000.asiu wrote: ↑Tue 10 Nov 2020 11:51amits not the moderators you should be worried about imoStaying on until the end of Trade period 2020. Unless I get banned beforehand. Fingers crossed I don't upset the moderators too much.
it’s the punters on the board
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then the nods wouldn’t need to get involved
anyways
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OMG, does it still exist? What happened to it? There was another site at the time too. For the life of me I can't remember its name though.Saintmania wrote: ↑Tue 10 Nov 2020 3:19pmI do, that was my site. Thanks for the trip down memory lane.SaintPelican66 wrote: ↑Tue 10 Nov 2020 1:37pm Actually it might have been mid 2000's. I think I am remembering the forerunner to Saintsational which was Saintsmania.Anyone remember?
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True, but I was NeXus Nick for many years prior to Pelican. And a couple of other nics too.ace wrote: ↑Tue 10 Nov 2020 3:27pmNo Pelican you flew in on the 16 September 2020 at 7:23PM. (2 days before Vortex)SaintPelican66 wrote: ↑Tue 10 Nov 2020 1:34pmThanks for the headsup asiu. I only have 2 and a half days left on Saintsational now. It's sad really becuase I have been posting on here since the beginning which if my memory is correct was before 2000.asiu wrote: ↑Tue 10 Nov 2020 11:51amits not the moderators you should be worried about imoStaying on until the end of Trade period 2020. Unless I get banned beforehand. Fingers crossed I don't upset the moderators too much.
it’s the punters on the board
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then the nods wouldn’t need to get involved
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Seriously, SP this is beyond the pale.SaintPelican66 wrote: ↑Tue 10 Nov 2020 3:51pmTrue, but I was NeXus Nick for many years prior to Pelican. And a couple of other nics too.ace wrote: ↑Tue 10 Nov 2020 3:27pmNo Pelican you flew in on the 16 September 2020 at 7:23PM. (2 days before Vortex)SaintPelican66 wrote: ↑Tue 10 Nov 2020 1:34pmThanks for the headsup asiu. I only have 2 and a half days left on Saintsational now. It's sad really becuase I have been posting on here since the beginning which if my memory is correct was before 2000.asiu wrote: ↑Tue 10 Nov 2020 11:51amits not the moderators you should be worried about imoStaying on until the end of Trade period 2020. Unless I get banned beforehand. Fingers crossed I don't upset the moderators too much.
it’s the punters on the board
who ark up
at the way you present things
maybe , look in that direction
then the nods wouldn’t need to get involved
anyways
good luck
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Carlisle re-signing to play another year at the Saints hasn't had any coverage in the media.
The Saints haven't posted this news on their website either, Is it True ?
The Saints haven't posted this news on their website either, Is it True ?
The Saints are under review, will it make any difference to the underachievers ?
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I know this is just a forum and people post s*** however I couldn't let this one slide. How about you go and have a look at Gresham's goal kicking prowess prior to him being tried as a midfielder. I think you will find he can definitely kick over a jam tin. He was one of the best small forwards/goal sneaks in the comp at the age of 20. Your post is the most stupid post I have ever seen on Saintsational and there have been some rippers over the years.magnifisaint wrote: ↑Tue 10 Nov 2020 10:52amAre you kidding me! I would trade out Gresham for Treloar. Gresham can't kick over a jam tin.bigcarl wrote: ↑Tue 10 Nov 2020 10:02amEven then I don’t want him. Good player, but we’d have to play him in the midfield every week, keeping Clark consigned to the HBF and Gresham to the forward pocket.
Not saying no to quality imports per se, just making the case for developing what we have already.
Any case, I believe Lethlean ruled Treloar out. Too costly.
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I still can't believe they delisted Logan Austin. We was the perfect break glass emergency.
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They obviously think Clavarino will be more perfect. I guess.SaintPelican66 wrote: ↑Tue 10 Nov 2020 10:49pmI still can't believe they delisted Logan Austin. We was the perfect break glass emergency.
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Lethlean just said on trade radio Carlisle has yet to sign the contract that's been offered to him.
The Saints are under review, will it make any difference to the underachievers ?