External salary cap payments?
Jeremy Cameron
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Re: Jeremy Cameron
Free agency is flawed. Tops up Top 4 clubs ... Lynch first, then Daniher and Cameron.
Double screws us as money now goes to Caldwell. Probably explains why he hasn’t nominated us. Watch AFL step in to Top up his salary ...
Free agents need to restricted from going to Top 4 clubs.
Double screws us as money now goes to Caldwell. Probably explains why he hasn’t nominated us. Watch AFL step in to Top up his salary ...
Free agents need to restricted from going to Top 4 clubs.
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Re: Jeremy Cameron
It’s a disgrace that those top 4 clubs can get the free agents without even using a draft pick.
It’s like getting a bonus number one pick!
It’s like getting a bonus number one pick!
One year will be our year
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Re: Jeremy Cameron
Higgins a total waste of effort.Ghost Like wrote: ↑Sun 18 Oct 2020 1:40pm Save those pennies for Bing, make him the focus for 2022, in the meantime, 2021, improve our midfield with the likes of Caldwell, Witherden, Higgins.
He will be 33 not 23 next year.
Witherden the right age but contracted to Lions for 2021 and 2022.
Caldwell worth the chase.
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Re: Jeremy Cameron
Both clubs in the move gain.longtimesaint wrote: ↑Mon 19 Oct 2020 6:05pm It’s a disgrace that those top 4 clubs can get the free agents without even using a draft pick.
It’s like getting a bonus number one pick!
The destination club get a free gift .
And the club losing the player gets a draft pick gift.
Adelaide very keen to see a player go if they get a first rounder draft pick compensation.
Plus our first round draft pick slips one place.
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Re: Jeremy Cameron
Nobody knows what the list size is going to be or what the salary cap is going to be because the AFLPA refuses to meet with the AFL.
The problem being a selfish AFLPA leader putting himself first.
Wants to concentrate on more personal matters like preparing to play finals.
But still wants to be part of the negotiations, but later.
Piss off Dangerfield.
I hope your team loses.
The problem being a selfish AFLPA leader putting himself first.
Wants to concentrate on more personal matters like preparing to play finals.
But still wants to be part of the negotiations, but later.
Piss off Dangerfield.
I hope your team loses.
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Re: Jeremy Cameron
Yep. CARN THE TIGERS.ace wrote: ↑Mon 19 Oct 2020 6:24pm Nobody knows what the list size is going to be or what the salary cap is going to be because the AFLPA refuses to meet with the AFL.
The problem being a selfish AFLPA leader putting himself first.
Wants to concentrate on more personal matters like preparing to play finals.
But still wants to be part of the negotiations, but later.
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Re: Jeremy Cameron
That’s my point -why should the destination club get a free gift at the detriment of all other teams in the competition .ace wrote: ↑Mon 19 Oct 2020 6:14pmBoth clubs in the move gain.longtimesaint wrote: ↑Mon 19 Oct 2020 6:05pm It’s a disgrace that those top 4 clubs can get the free agents without even using a draft pick.
It’s like getting a bonus number one pick!
The destination club get a free gift .
And the club losing the player gets a draft pick gift.
Adelaide very keen to see a player go if they get a first rounder draft pick compensation.
Plus our first round draft pick slips one place.
One year will be our year
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Re: Jeremy Cameron
I think the theory is that the money their not paying Tim Kelly, plus the retirement of Ablett and possibly Taylor frees up the necessary cap space.
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Re: Jeremy Cameron
Isn’t it about the player? He has a right to chose where he wants to work. Of course he chooses a good employer. I have no problem with that. The salary cap makes sure it can’t happen too often with the same club.longtimesaint wrote: ↑Mon 19 Oct 2020 6:58pmThat’s my point -why should the destination club get a free gift at the detriment of all other teams in the competition .ace wrote: ↑Mon 19 Oct 2020 6:14pmBoth clubs in the move gain.longtimesaint wrote: ↑Mon 19 Oct 2020 6:05pm It’s a disgrace that those top 4 clubs can get the free agents without even using a draft pick.
It’s like getting a bonus number one pick!
The destination club get a free gift .
And the club losing the player gets a draft pick gift.
Adelaide very keen to see a player go if they get a first rounder draft pick compensation.
Plus our first round draft pick slips one place.
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Re: Jeremy Cameron
Wouldn't Ablett and Taylor be on the veterans list? Or doesn't that exist anymore?on the outer wrote: ↑Mon 19 Oct 2020 7:17pmI think the theory is that the money their not paying Tim Kelly, plus the retirement of Ablett and possibly Taylor frees up the necessary cap space.
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Re: Jeremy Cameron
If Cameron goes to the Cats you'd think that some players (mids) may not be getting what the could get somewhere else...like the Saints.
And while I don't like the idea of Cameron going to the Cats, and how Lynch went to the Tigers, but hopefully we're a top 4 side in the coming years and can take advantage of a flawed system.
And while I don't like the idea of Cameron going to the Cats, and how Lynch went to the Tigers, but hopefully we're a top 4 side in the coming years and can take advantage of a flawed system.
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Re: Jeremy Cameron
Still, can't see how they can fit Higgins, Crouch and Cameron in.on the outer wrote: ↑Mon 19 Oct 2020 7:17pmI think the theory is that the money their not paying Tim Kelly, plus the retirement of Ablett and possibly Taylor frees up the necessary cap space.
And that's they're.
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Re: Jeremy Cameron
Disappointing that we haven’t won this one.
We need to woo and win a FA and soon
Paying too much for players, as in picks - whilst clubs like Geelong get freebies keep setting us back
Think bigger saints
We need to woo and win a FA and soon
Paying too much for players, as in picks - whilst clubs like Geelong get freebies keep setting us back
Think bigger saints
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Re: Jeremy Cameron
The AFL sold free agency on the basis that it will even up the comp as the top sides would not be able to afford them.
Instead we see the Lynches and Camerons of the world finding their way to the top clubs.
One wonders what deals are being done?
Instead we see the Lynches and Camerons of the world finding their way to the top clubs.
One wonders what deals are being done?
The rest of Australia can wander mask-free, socialise, eat out, no curfews, no zoning, no police rings of steel, no illogical inconsistent rules.
They can even WATCH LIVE FOOTY!
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Re: Jeremy Cameron
Free Agency is about the player. The top draft picks usually go to bottom teams and in many cases interstate. They have a right to leave after ‘doing their time’ to a club of their choice with the prospect of success.Enrico_Misso wrote: ↑Sat 24 Oct 2020 6:11pm The AFL sold free agency on the basis that it will even up the comp as the top sides would not be able to afford them.
Instead we see the Lynches and Camerons of the world finding their way to the top clubs.
One wonders what deals are being done?
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Yes, but that wasn't how the AFL sold it.Gershwin wrote: ↑Sat 24 Oct 2020 7:27pmFree Agency is about the player. The top draft picks usually go to bottom teams and in many cases interstate. They have a right to leave after ‘doing their time’ to a club of their choice with the prospect of success.Enrico_Misso wrote: ↑Sat 24 Oct 2020 6:11pm The AFL sold free agency on the basis that it will even up the comp as the top sides would not be able to afford them.
Instead we see the Lynches and Camerons of the world finding their way to the top clubs.
One wonders what deals are being done?
The rest of Australia can wander mask-free, socialise, eat out, no curfews, no zoning, no police rings of steel, no illogical inconsistent rules.
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Re: Jeremy Cameron
True, but clubs shouldn't be able to restructure contracts to free up money to add FAs. This tactic allows the destination clubs to extend their reign as destination clubs.Gershwin wrote: ↑Sat 24 Oct 2020 7:27pmFree Agency is about the player. The top draft picks usually go to bottom teams and in many cases interstate. They have a right to leave after ‘doing their time’ to a club of their choice with the prospect of success.Enrico_Misso wrote: ↑Sat 24 Oct 2020 6:11pm The AFL sold free agency on the basis that it will even up the comp as the top sides would not be able to afford them.
Instead we see the Lynches and Camerons of the world finding their way to the top clubs.
One wonders what deals are being done?
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Re: Jeremy Cameron
FA would be fine if clubs did not have to pay X amount of the salary. How or why should North have to pay 95% of their cap next season, whilst Geelong are only paying 5% more and picking up the contracts of Cameron and Higgins. It is this requirement that keeps clubs down, paying overs for a lot of their cattle. If this was not in place, true war chests could be created allowing Clubs to entice players with sign on fees saved from actually paying what their list is worth.
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Re: Jeremy Cameron
Veterans list long gone.Trev from the Bush wrote: ↑Mon 19 Oct 2020 7:34pmWouldn't Ablett and Taylor be on the veterans list? Or doesn't that exist anymore?on the outer wrote: ↑Mon 19 Oct 2020 7:17pmI think the theory is that the money their not paying Tim Kelly, plus the retirement of Ablett and possibly Taylor frees up the necessary cap space.
I suspect Ablett came "home" for little coin, he just wanted to finish his career in a decent team.
Sick of playing for coaches who did not have a clue.
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When I was a young child, I knew that I knew so much about so much.
Now that I am old and know so much more, I know that I know so much about so little, and so little about so much.
If you are not engaging AI actively and aggressively, you are doing it wrong.
You are not going to lose your job to AI.
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When I was a young child, I knew that I knew so much about so much.
Now that I am old and know so much more, I know that I know so much about so little, and so little about so much.
If you are not engaging AI actively and aggressively, you are doing it wrong.
You are not going to lose your job to AI.
You are going lose your job to somebody who uses AI.
Your company is not going to go out of business because of AI.
Your company is going to go out of business because another company used AI.
- Jensen Huang, CEO of NVIDIA