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Re: Webster and Dunstan to Adelaide

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SaintPelican66 wrote: Sat 24 Oct 2020 1:14pm
johnearljames wrote: Fri 23 Oct 2020 1:15pm Not sure whats happening to be honest.

FA wages are spread out across the length of the deal so you can't front load them to help out the other club.
Yes you can.
Ofer Crouch a 2 year contract at $1m per year. That's it.

But deep down inside he knows that when those 2 years expire he will only get $400k per year for 2 years for his next contract.
Referring to compensation Pelican.


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Re: Webster and Dunstan to Adelaide

Post: # 1879813Post kosifantutti »

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/web ... 568dw.html

“Jimmy Webster's manager has poured cold water on the idea that the out-of-favour St Kilda defender could be traded to Adelaide as part of dealings that would bring Brad Crouch to the Saints.“


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Re: Webster and Dunstan to Adelaide

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kosifantutti wrote: Sun 25 Oct 2020 5:11pm https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/web ... 568dw.html

“Jimmy Webster's manager has poured cold water on the idea that the out-of-favour St Kilda defender could be traded to Adelaide as part of dealings that would bring Brad Crouch to the Saints.“
On the Bulldogs Board on BF a poster has indicated that Dogs are interested in Webster.


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Re: Webster and Dunstan to Adelaide

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Bulldogs seem to be linked to a lot of our players...

Oddly enough, primarily to our under performing ones


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Re: Webster and Dunstan to Adelaide

Post: # 1879823Post SaintPelican66 »

saintsRrising wrote: Sun 25 Oct 2020 5:49pm
kosifantutti wrote: Sun 25 Oct 2020 5:11pm https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/web ... 568dw.html

“Jimmy Webster's manager has poured cold water on the idea that the out-of-favour St Kilda defender could be traded to Adelaide as part of dealings that would bring Brad Crouch to the Saints.“
On the Bulldogs Board on BF a poster has indicated that Dogs are interested in Webster.
The Dullbogs have picks 12, 36, 48, 84. If they want Webster we want pick 36. Then we would have 15, 36, 58, 73, 87.....Nice.


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Re: Webster and Dunstan to Adelaide

Post: # 1879864Post Wayne42 »

The problem with this time of the year is it's hard to sort out the Bulldogs from the Bulldust until it's all done.


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Re: Webster and Dunstan to Adelaide

Post: # 1879866Post Joffa Burns »

SaintPelican66 wrote: Sun 25 Oct 2020 6:16pm
saintsRrising wrote: Sun 25 Oct 2020 5:49pm
kosifantutti wrote: Sun 25 Oct 2020 5:11pm https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/web ... 568dw.html

“Jimmy Webster's manager has poured cold water on the idea that the out-of-favour St Kilda defender could be traded to Adelaide as part of dealings that would bring Brad Crouch to the Saints.“
On the Bulldogs Board on BF a poster has indicated that Dogs are interested in Webster.
The Dullbogs have picks 12, 36, 48, 84. If they want Webster we want pick 36. Then we would have 15, 36, 58, 73, 87.....Nice.
Steven #58
Butler #56
Zac Jones #32
Bruce# 32

How does Webster at 27 who has played a handful of games in two years warrant #36 regardless of willing buyer willing seller.

I like Webster as a player, hard as a cats head but he's a shuffle with pick #48 to us giving them back #58 at very best.


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Re: Webster and Dunstan to Adelaide

Post: # 1879870Post saintbob »

As I said on Friday, Jimmy would rather walk away from his AFL career than go to Adelaide.

Send Savage and Dunstan instead


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Re: Webster and Dunstan to Adelaide

Post: # 1879872Post skeptic »

Looks like the OP was unfounded...

Again


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Re: Webster and Dunstan to Adelaide

Post: # 1879878Post Wayne42 »

saintbob wrote: Sun 25 Oct 2020 9:48pm As I said on Friday, Jimmy would rather walk away from his AFL career than go to Adelaide.
if Webster doesn't get over his injuries and becomes a viable player again, he may have to walk away, wherever he's playing.


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Re: Webster and Dunstan to Adelaide

Post: # 1879891Post SaintPelican66 »

Joffa Burns wrote: Sun 25 Oct 2020 9:31pm
SaintPelican66 wrote: Sun 25 Oct 2020 6:16pm
saintsRrising wrote: Sun 25 Oct 2020 5:49pm
kosifantutti wrote: Sun 25 Oct 2020 5:11pm https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/web ... 568dw.html

“Jimmy Webster's manager has poured cold water on the idea that the out-of-favour St Kilda defender could be traded to Adelaide as part of dealings that would bring Brad Crouch to the Saints.“
On the Bulldogs Board on BF a poster has indicated that Dogs are interested in Webster.
The Dullbogs have picks 12, 36, 48, 84. If they want Webster we want pick 36. Then we would have 15, 36, 58, 73, 87.....Nice.
Steven #58
Butler #56
Zac Jones #32
Bruce# 32

How does Webster at 27 who has played a handful of games in two years warrant #36 regardless of willing buyer willing seller.

I like Webster as a player, hard as a cats head but he's a shuffle with pick #48 to us giving them back #58 at very best.
Well if that’s the case I would rather keep him as depth


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Re: Webster and Dunstan to Adelaide

Post: # 1879925Post saynta »

From the age article

"However Webster's agent, Peter Lenton of Kapital Sports, said on Sunday that he had not had any contact with Adelaide about Webster and that he expected the Tasmanian backman to remain at Moorabbin in 2021.

"I haven't spoken to Adelaide about Jimmy," Lenton said.

"He's got two years left to run on his contract and while there have been discussions with some clubs, as you would have with any player at this time of year, I expect he'll be at St Kilda next year."

Dunstan, Webster and fellow Saint Dylan Roberton are all contracted for 2021 but the experienced trio has been floated as trade bait after playing just two senior matches between them this year.

Webster, 27, has been limited to just 93 matches in nine years on St Kilda's list, with injuries regularly thwarting his progress. He played the first eight games of 2019 but hasn't appeared at senior level since.

An AFL memo has cast doubt over whether the Crows will receive pick No.2 as compensation for their 2019 best and fairest, with the league stressing that free agency compensation was not designed to fully make up for the loss of a player."



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Re: Webster and Dunstan to Adelaide

Post: # 1879929Post saintbob »

Wayne42 wrote: Sun 25 Oct 2020 10:32pm
saintbob wrote: Sun 25 Oct 2020 9:48pm As I said on Friday, Jimmy would rather walk away from his AFL career than go to Adelaide.
if Webster doesn't get over his injuries and becomes a viable player again, he may have to walk away, wherever he's playing.
Yep, I’m pretty sure he’d be aware of that


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Re: Webster and Dunstan to Adelaide

Post: # 1879931Post CURLY »

Not sure Webster was out of favor I think he was injured. Worst year to be coming back from a long term injury. Would think he is still in the mix.


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Re: Webster and Dunstan to Adelaide

Post: # 1879985Post avid »

Hang in there Jimmy Webster,
I for one am looking forward to seeing you in the Saints line-up again.


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Re: Webster and Dunstan to Adelaide

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CURLY wrote: Mon 26 Oct 2020 11:53am Not sure Webster was out of favor I think he was injured. Worst year to be coming back from a long term injury. Would think he is still in the mix.
Have a squiz at Gags on Saints app.
He said we really tried to get Jimmy into the seniors all year, but it just didn't happen.

I get the impression that he couldn't squeeze out Ben Paton et al.

Our back 6 is pretty well settled, and JWeb just couldn't even get on the bench either.
I saw on TV JWeb sitting in the stands at the Prelim, his face said he was really really sad to be a spectator


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Re: Webster and Dunstan to Adelaide

Post: # 1880002Post Yorkeys »

What is the impact on skills/ability missing of one year or more without playing a competition game in the firsts, as would be the case with these two warriors. I can't see how a club is going to go hard for any player that was not active for quite a few games in 2020, particularly with list reduction looming. Of course this is the time of year is ripe for the tin foil group to trot their player movements stuff. Could all get together and have a speculative rumour-in at Festival Hall. Until new owner takes over.


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Re: Webster and Dunstan to Adelaide

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Yorkeys wrote: Mon 26 Oct 2020 7:37pm What is the impact on skills/ability missing of one year or more without playing a competition game in the firsts, as would be the case with these two warriors. I can't see how a club is going to go hard for any player that was not active for quite a few games in 2020, particularly with list reduction looming. Of course this is the time of year is ripe for the tin foil group to trot their player movements stuff. Could all get together and have a speculative rumour-in at Festival Hall. Until new owner takes over.
No doubt that players lose form when they have been out of the game for a while. I think the bigger blokes take a lot longer to regain their fitness and their touch.

The best examples I can think where I saw players come back after extended periods was with Plugger and also Fraser Gherig when they both made a comeback

Remember also when the Duck/Wayne Carey was playing for Adelaide? He was only half the player he used to be when he played for North

Maybe Dunny, Jimmy and Dyl will be different because they have still been in the system training and playing competitive scratch matches


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Re: Webster and Dunstan to Adelaide

Post: # 1880162Post saynta »

Latest on Webster.

from heraldsun.com.au

"IS THERE ROOM FOR WEBSTER AT THE SAINTS?

St Kilda is happy to retain Jimmy Webster on the club’s list but his robust contract is one reason why they won’t be shattered if he does find another home.

St Kilda list boss James Gallagher said this week the Saints were happy to keep Webster, who has a deal through to 2022.

But he signed in August 2018 after averaging 22 possessions and 87 ranking points per match.

It means he signed coming off the best season of his career, and still holds a contract which reflects it.

With Hunter Clark, Nick Coffield and Josh Battle among the players who have gone past him, it might mean his best chance of finding a regular spot is elsewhere"


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Re: Webster and Dunstan to Adelaide

Post: # 1880169Post Otiman »

Space on the list is at a premium. There is no room for depth players that aren't also developing.

The fringe player over 25 will be a thing of the past.


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Re: Webster and Dunstan to Adelaide

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Otiman wrote: Tue 27 Oct 2020 6:52pm Space on the list is at a premium. There is no room for depth players that aren't also developing.

The fringe player over 25 will be a thing of the past.
Then why are we thinking of adding McKenzie to our list.?
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Re: Webster and Dunstan to Adelaide

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saynta wrote: Tue 27 Oct 2020 7:26pm
Otiman wrote: Tue 27 Oct 2020 6:52pm Space on the list is at a premium. There is no room for depth players that aren't also developing.

The fringe player over 25 will be a thing of the past.
Then why are we thinking of adding McKenzie to our list.?
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McKernan?
McKenzie is already contracted


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Re: Webster and Dunstan to Adelaide

Post: # 1880182Post ace »

saintbob wrote: Sun 25 Oct 2020 9:48pm As I said on Friday, Jimmy would rather walk away from his AFL career than go to Adelaide.

Send Savage and Dunstan instead
Surely Adelaide will take McKenzie instead


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Re: Webster and Dunstan to Adelaide

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ace wrote: Tue 27 Oct 2020 8:04pm
saintbob wrote: Sun 25 Oct 2020 9:48pm As I said on Friday, Jimmy would rather walk away from his AFL career than go to Adelaide.

Send Savage and Dunstan instead
Surely Adelaide will take McKenzie instead
Don't blame him either. So would I if I was in his shoes.😀


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Re: Webster and Dunstan to Adelaide

Post: # 1880184Post saynta »

WellardSaint wrote: Tue 27 Oct 2020 7:30pm
saynta wrote: Tue 27 Oct 2020 7:26pm
Otiman wrote: Tue 27 Oct 2020 6:52pm Space on the list is at a premium. There is no room for depth players that aren't also developing.

The fringe player over 25 will be a thing of the past.
Then why are we thinking of adding McKenzie to our list.?
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McKernan?
McKenzie is already contracted
f***. I Thought I typed McKernan

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