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Trade Billings
Simply not up to it. trade him at the end of the season, we might get someone who can play.
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Re: Trade Billings
No. Still in our best 5 players.
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Re: Trade Billings
You must be joking, surely. He is a soft ineffective footballer.
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Re: Trade Billings
One bad loss and performance and we trade a good player in his prime with good skills. Real smart.happy feet wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:19pmYou must be joking, surely. He is a soft ineffective footballer.
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Re: Trade Billings
Story, he is soft and we are carrying him. A player of his supposed caliber should be winning us games. He is not doing this, over rated and over paid.johnearljames wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:21pmOne bad loss and performance and we trade a good player in his prime with good skills. Real smart.happy feet wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:19pmYou must be joking, surely. He is a soft ineffective footballer.
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Re: Trade Billings
Not sure I'd like you next to me in the trenches but go for it champ.happy feet wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:16pm Simply not up to it. trade him at the end of the season, we might get someone who can play.
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Re: Trade Billings
Should have been given the week off 3 weeks ago.
Massive miscalculation made at selection vs Geelong.
Should have rested 5-7 players including JB
We've been rolling the dice ever since.
Stop the trade nonsense....he is a genuine playmaker.
And yes he was terrible tonight
Massive miscalculation made at selection vs Geelong.
Should have rested 5-7 players including JB
We've been rolling the dice ever since.
Stop the trade nonsense....he is a genuine playmaker.
And yes he was terrible tonight
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Re: Trade Billings
Didn't you say that last week?johnearljames wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:21pmOne bad loss and performance and we trade a good player in his prime with good skills. Real smart.happy feet wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:19pmYou must be joking, surely. He is a soft ineffective footballer.
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Re: Trade Billings
No he is not soft and he will not be traded. Still in our best 5 players.happy feet wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:23pmStory, he is soft and we are carrying him. A player of his supposed caliber should be winning us games. He is not doing this, over rated and over paid.johnearljames wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:21pmOne bad loss and performance and we trade a good player in his prime with good skills. Real smart.happy feet wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:19pmYou must be joking, surely. He is a soft ineffective footballer.
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Re: Trade Billings
Why do you think he is in our top 5? Please enlighten us al.johnearljames wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:29pmNo he is not soft and he will not be traded. Still in our best 5 players.happy feet wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:23pmStory, he is soft and we are carrying him. A player of his supposed caliber should be winning us games. He is not doing this, over rated and over paid.johnearljames wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:21pmOne bad loss and performance and we trade a good player in his prime with good skills. Real smart.happy feet wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:19pmYou must be joking, surely. He is a soft ineffective footballer.
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Re: Trade Billings
For one, he is in the top 5 at the Saints for numerous stats.happy feet wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:34pmWhy do you think he is in our top 5? Please enlighten us al.johnearljames wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:29pmNo he is not soft and he will not be traded. Still in our best 5 players.happy feet wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:23pmStory, he is soft and we are carrying him. A player of his supposed caliber should be winning us games. He is not doing this, over rated and over paid.johnearljames wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:21pmOne bad loss and performance and we trade a good player in his prime with good skills. Real smart.happy feet wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:19pmYou must be joking, surely. He is a soft ineffective footballer.
1. 2nd most disposals
2. 3rd average disposals
3. 5th contested posessions
4. 1st metres gained
5. 4th most tackles
6. 3rd score involvements
Shall I go on?
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Re: Trade Billings
Looked tired & jaded obviously showed in his performance tonight. Not desisting him just yet but gee he was disappointing tonight ,when you want some one to stand up & fly the flag he didn't
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Re: Trade Billings
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And Jack was absolutely a abysmal tonight. Played 1 good a in the last 8. Disappointing.
Couldn’t agree more. We stuffed the Geelong game royally.fugazi wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:26pm Should have been given the week off 3 weeks ago.
Massive miscalculation made at selection vs Geelong.
Should have rested 5-7 players including JB
We've been rolling the dice ever since.
Stop the trade nonsense....he is a genuine playmaker.
And yes he was terrible tonight
And Jack was absolutely a abysmal tonight. Played 1 good a in the last 8. Disappointing.
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Re: Trade Billings
Yep and all of it ineffectual. When has he stepped up and won us a game. I can’t remember it.johnearljames wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:41pmFor one, he is in the top 5 at the Saints for numerous stats.happy feet wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:34pmWhy do you think he is in our top 5? Please enlighten us al.johnearljames wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:29pmNo he is not soft and he will not be traded. Still in our best 5 players.happy feet wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:23pmStory, he is soft and we are carrying him. A player of his supposed caliber should be winning us games. He is not doing this, over rated and over paid.johnearljames wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:21pmOne bad loss and performance and we trade a good player in his prime with good skills. Real smart.happy feet wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:19pmYou must be joking, surely. He is a soft ineffective footballer.
1. 2nd most disposals
2. 3rd average disposals
3. 5th contested posessions
4. 1st metres gained
5. 4th most tackles
6. 3rd score involvements
Shall I go on?
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Re: Trade Billings
Yeah ok. His efforts have done nothing to have us in 6th place.happy feet wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:47pmYep and all of it ineffectual. When has he stepped up and won us a game. I can’t remember it.johnearljames wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:41pmFor one, he is in the top 5 at the Saints for numerous stats.happy feet wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:34pmWhy do you think he is in our top 5? Please enlighten us al.johnearljames wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:29pmNo he is not soft and he will not be traded. Still in our best 5 players.happy feet wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:23pmStory, he is soft and we are carrying him. A player of his supposed caliber should be winning us games. He is not doing this, over rated and over paid.johnearljames wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:21pmOne bad loss and performance and we trade a good player in his prime with good skills. Real smart.happy feet wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:19pmYou must be joking, surely. He is a soft ineffective footballer.
1. 2nd most disposals
2. 3rd average disposals
3. 5th contested posessions
4. 1st metres gained
5. 4th most tackles
6. 3rd score involvements
Shall I go on?
Its a team game full of 22 players. Not 5 on 5 basketball.
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Re: Trade Billings
Yep he was supposed to be a superstar, he is not earning his pay.
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Re: Trade Billings
I'll play. Please tell us those who have better "ineffectual" stats or better stats however you define them?happy feet wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:47pmYep and all of it ineffectual. When has he stepped up and won us a game. I can’t remember it.johnearljames wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:41pmFor one, he is in the top 5 at the Saints for numerous stats.happy feet wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:34pmWhy do you think he is in our top 5? Please enlighten us al.johnearljames wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:29pmNo he is not soft and he will not be traded. Still in our best 5 players.happy feet wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:23pmStory, he is soft and we are carrying him. A player of his supposed caliber should be winning us games. He is not doing this, over rated and over paid.johnearljames wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:21pmOne bad loss and performance and we trade a good player in his prime with good skills. Real smart.happy feet wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:19pmYou must be joking, surely. He is a soft ineffective footballer.
1. 2nd most disposals
2. 3rd average disposals
3. 5th contested posessions
4. 1st metres gained
5. 4th most tackles
6. 3rd score involvements
Shall I go on?
This should be enlightening.
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Great to have you on board. When can you remember Billings ever standing out and winning us a game. Please tell me that moment when, yeah Billings won us that one. Like we did with Harvey, Hayes, Burke, Jones, Winmar. They are who we should be expecting Billings to perform like. He is over rated and over paid.Ghost Like wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:58pmI'll play. Please tell us those who have better "ineffectual" stats or better stats however you define them?happy feet wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:47pmYep and all of it ineffectual. When has he stepped up and won us a game. I can’t remember it.johnearljames wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:41pmFor one, he is in the top 5 at the Saints for numerous stats.happy feet wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:34pmWhy do you think he is in our top 5? Please enlighten us al.johnearljames wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:29pmNo he is not soft and he will not be traded. Still in our best 5 players.happy feet wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:23pmStory, he is soft and we are carrying him. A player of his supposed caliber should be winning us games. He is not doing this, over rated and over paid.johnearljames wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:21pmOne bad loss and performance and we trade a good player in his prime with good skills. Real smart.happy feet wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:19pmYou must be joking, surely. He is a soft ineffective footballer.
1. 2nd most disposals
2. 3rd average disposals
3. 5th contested posessions
4. 1st metres gained
5. 4th most tackles
6. 3rd score involvements
Shall I go on?
This should be enlightening.
Rugby League would have to be the stupidest, most moronic and over rated game of all time.
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Re: Trade Billings
I agree that players needed to be better managed. We rolled the dice and it worked against Port Adelaide but it has cost us against Brisbane and Melbourne. Possibly a mistake by selection committee and coaches, but perhaps they wanted to learn some things about the list and about certain playersfugazi wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:26pm Should have been given the week off 3 weeks ago.
Massive miscalculation made at selection vs Geelong.
Should have rested 5-7 players including JB
We've been rolling the dice ever since.
Stop the trade nonsense....he is a genuine playmaker.
And yes he was terrible tonight
I have a feeling that all of the decisions that Ratts and the footy department have made this year have been with an eye on the long term. It seems like they are testing which players are capable and the more pressure that you place on certain players, the better it is for the coach and the list manager to decide who stays and who needs to go.
All the lessons learned this year will put us in a better position for the next couple of years. If we are going to play finals we need players that can stand up and push through on a consistent basis during a finals series
Billings has been a good player for us, but he is replaceable. He hasn’t been consistent enough and I wouldn’t want to be relying on him if we are playing a brutal 3 or 4 weeks of finals
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Great questions. Answer mine first and then I'll answer yours.happy feet wrote: ↑Sun 30 Aug 2020 12:06amGreat to have you on board. When can you remember Billings ever standing out and winning us a game. Please tell me that moment when, yeah Billings won us that one. Like we did with Harvey, Hayes, Burke, Jones, Winmar. They are who we should be expecting Billings to perform like. He is over rated and over paid.Ghost Like wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:58pmI'll play. Please tell us those who have better "ineffectual" stats or better stats however you define them?happy feet wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:47pmYep and all of it ineffectual. When has he stepped up and won us a game. I can’t remember it.johnearljames wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:41pmFor one, he is in the top 5 at the Saints for numerous stats.happy feet wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:34pmWhy do you think he is in our top 5? Please enlighten us al.johnearljames wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:29pmNo he is not soft and he will not be traded. Still in our best 5 players.happy feet wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:23pmStory, he is soft and we are carrying him. A player of his supposed caliber should be winning us games. He is not doing this, over rated and over paid.johnearljames wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:21pmOne bad loss and performance and we trade a good player in his prime with good skills. Real smart.happy feet wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:19pmYou must be joking, surely. He is a soft ineffective footballer.
1. 2nd most disposals
2. 3rd average disposals
3. 5th contested posessions
4. 1st metres gained
5. 4th most tackles
6. 3rd score involvements
Shall I go on?
This should be enlightening.
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Re: Trade Billings
I do like Steel’s stats ....effective tooGhost Like wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:58pmI'll play. Please tell us those who have better "ineffectual" stats or better stats however you define them?happy feet wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:47pmYep and all of it ineffectual. When has he stepped up and won us a game. I can’t remember it.johnearljames wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:41pmFor one, he is in the top 5 at the Saints for numerous stats.happy feet wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:34pmWhy do you think he is in our top 5? Please enlighten us al.johnearljames wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:29pmNo he is not soft and he will not be traded. Still in our best 5 players.happy feet wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:23pmStory, he is soft and we are carrying him. A player of his supposed caliber should be winning us games. He is not doing this, over rated and over paid.johnearljames wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:21pmOne bad loss and performance and we trade a good player in his prime with good skills. Real smart.happy feet wrote: ↑Sat 29 Aug 2020 11:19pmYou must be joking, surely. He is a soft ineffective footballer.
1. 2nd most disposals
2. 3rd average disposals
3. 5th contested posessions
4. 1st metres gained
5. 4th most tackles
6. 3rd score involvements
Shall I go on?
This should be enlightening.
That said Jack is certainly tradeable for the right price and that would be a very good midfielder
Sorry 7 years seen enough he is in his prime and doesn’t do it often enough or when you need him too
He’s a bit downhill skier for mine Jack
I think we can cover a wing/HFF from Clarke or Coffiekd possibly over time
Sinclair was better than Billings tonight Hill too
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Re: Trade Billings
P.S..: Without looking at stats, brownlow votes, coaches votes...let's start with the Bulldogs, a relatively successful team in Jack's time with us.
Looking forward to those "ineffectual" stats.
Looking forward to those "ineffectual" stats.