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Sad, embarrassed for me? What f****** nonsense
Ask the club if they agree with you. I know what their answer will be. God there is some rubbish posted by arrogant know nothings on this site, especially after a loss like today.Saintmatt wrote: ↑Sat 11 Jul 2020 4:47pmAs usual - you offer nothing in terms of an intellectual rebuttal or discussion when you want to disagree with a post. Just “rubbish”.
Are you a 12yo girl by chance? Serious question - b/c that’s the type of response you get from that type when challenged.
And I though your first post was bad enough.Vazelos wrote: ↑Sat 11 Jul 2020 5:03pmHe gives no content just dumps on the post..Secret Kiel wrote: ↑Sat 11 Jul 2020 4:49pmIronically you come accross as a 12 yo groupie girl.Saintmatt wrote: ↑Sat 11 Jul 2020 4:47pmAs usual - you offer nothing in terms of an intellectual rebuttal or discussion when you want to disagree with a post. Just “rubbish”.
Are you a 12yo girl by chance? Serious question - b/c that’s the type of response you get from that type when challenged.
I called Mc Kenzie early last year as no good, I called Dunstan a few years ago got smashed by the “ intel king” at the time who was lauded as some Demi god..I forgot his name... he is a quality poster no issues with him he was upset at my post at the time but I was proven right...
He said he was a future leader at the club I said he is nowhere near it...
We needed speed I mentioned that many times and so have many others...
We now need a quality A list let mid and some leadership...
Ross is neither.... he goes missing in tough games and he doesn’t hurt the opposition...
He isn’t tough or desperate enough to be a great inside mid and he isn’t quick or classy enough to hurt on the outside....
His hands are ok but not great...
He is a B grader I think he has some currency...
Trade he and Dunstan put next year...
Savage will go and Carlisle is borderline with his contract expiring and his back and big salary..
We are carrying Hannabery we can’t carry too many others...
Haha, which part?
Another Mother statement with no content, I dont come in here every day & write sweet nothings all day but when i do I put my self on the line with things I see.saynta wrote: ↑Sat 11 Jul 2020 5:35pmAnd I though your first post was bad enough.Vazelos wrote: ↑Sat 11 Jul 2020 5:03pmHe gives no content just dumps on the post..Secret Kiel wrote: ↑Sat 11 Jul 2020 4:49pmIronically you come accross as a 12 yo groupie girl.Saintmatt wrote: ↑Sat 11 Jul 2020 4:47pmAs usual - you offer nothing in terms of an intellectual rebuttal or discussion when you want to disagree with a post. Just “rubbish”.
Are you a 12yo girl by chance? Serious question - b/c that’s the type of response you get from that type when challenged.
I called Mc Kenzie early last year as no good, I called Dunstan a few years ago got smashed by the “ intel king” at the time who was lauded as some Demi god..I forgot his name... he is a quality poster no issues with him he was upset at my post at the time but I was proven right...
He said he was a future leader at the club I said he is nowhere near it...
We needed speed I mentioned that many times and so have many others...
We now need a quality A list let mid and some leadership...
Ross is neither.... he goes missing in tough games and he doesn’t hurt the opposition...
He isn’t tough or desperate enough to be a great inside mid and he isn’t quick or classy enough to hurt on the outside....
His hands are ok but not great...
He is a B grader I think he has some currency...
Trade he and Dunstan put next year...
Savage will go and Carlisle is borderline with his contract expiring and his back and big salary..
We are carrying Hannabery we can’t carry too many others...![]()
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Yeah, I do. Ross and Carlisle will be with the saints in 2021, Dunstan 50/50. Savage and McKenzie gonesky.Vazelos wrote: ↑Sat 11 Jul 2020 6:10pmAnother Mother statement with no content, I dont come in here every day & write sweet nothings all day but when i do I put my self on the line with things I see.saynta wrote: ↑Sat 11 Jul 2020 5:35pmAnd I though your first post was bad enough.Vazelos wrote: ↑Sat 11 Jul 2020 5:03pmHe gives no content just dumps on the post..Secret Kiel wrote: ↑Sat 11 Jul 2020 4:49pmIronically you come accross as a 12 yo groupie girl.Saintmatt wrote: ↑Sat 11 Jul 2020 4:47pmAs usual - you offer nothing in terms of an intellectual rebuttal or discussion when you want to disagree with a post. Just “rubbish”.
Are you a 12yo girl by chance? Serious question - b/c that’s the type of response you get from that type when challenged.
I called Mc Kenzie early last year as no good, I called Dunstan a few years ago got smashed by the “ intel king” at the time who was lauded as some Demi god..I forgot his name... he is a quality poster no issues with him he was upset at my post at the time but I was proven right...
He said he was a future leader at the club I said he is nowhere near it...
We needed speed I mentioned that many times and so have many others...
We now need a quality A list let mid and some leadership...
Ross is neither.... he goes missing in tough games and he doesn’t hurt the opposition...
He isn’t tough or desperate enough to be a great inside mid and he isn’t quick or classy enough to hurt on the outside....
His hands are ok but not great...
He is a B grader I think he has some currency...
Trade he and Dunstan put next year...
Savage will go and Carlisle is borderline with his contract expiring and his back and big salary..
We are carrying Hannabery we can’t carry too many others...![]()
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We will see if Ross, Dunstan, Carlisle (50/50), Savage & Mckenzie are there next year.
How Mckenzie got 3 years is the biggest question in AFL circles, the Port Recruiting team fell off their chairs when they read it.
Look forward to some of your opinions if you have any...
Pay that. That indeed would be a bridge too far
Agreed. But this thread is about Ross. Possession count matters little though when they don’t go our way in the chain. You might as well play one short.saynta wrote: ↑Sat 11 Jul 2020 5:52pm Seb , who was playing a negating roll actually had more possessions than 12 other saints players. There are a few I would be dropping/trading before him. I might add.
For the record, I don't believe anyone has ever claimed Ross was an A grade player FFS. So lets stop with the bulls***. I know we are all a tad disappointing with that atrocious performance but the fault lies with the whole team not just one or two favourite punching bags.
Pretty offensive comment about the saints vice captain and two times best and fairest winner.Saintmatt wrote: ↑Sat 11 Jul 2020 6:33pm- Ross is confusing himself with Bont. He’s not; he’s not a hair on Bont’s ball bagsaynta wrote: ↑Sat 11 Jul 2020 5:52pm Seb , who was playing a negating roll actually had more possessions than 12 other saints players. There are a few I would be dropping/trading before him. I might add.
For the record, I don't believe anyone has ever claimed Ross was an A grade player FFS. So lets stop with the bulls***. I know we are all a tad disappointing with that atrocious performance but the fault lies with the whole team not just one or two favourite punching bags.
Interesting comment. Last week, we were winners without any imput from Hill Jones or Hannas after half time. Maybe we should just stick with our own kids and forget the mercenaries.whiskers3614 wrote: ↑Sat 11 Jul 2020 6:37pm
As for Hill, I just checked his stats:
-started one year before the much maligned Billings and his Brownlow medal vote count is 15 in 8 years vs 28 in Billings' 7!!
Hardly compelling figures for a bloke on that sort of coin and who we had to sell the farm (current and future) for.,
Show some content not just write garbage..
Me backing jaxon? Would be a first if true. Maybe I was just backing Dunstan...still am.Vazelos wrote: ↑Sun 19 Jul 2020 11:42am Saynta just read your posts about Dunstan in 2016 when I identified him as a player that I questioned his ability to be a long term solution for the club back in 2016 you were backing jaxon in the pro Dunstan camp back then now you claim my post about Seb Ross is rubbish...
Hope you are right this time and Seb becomes the leader we need him to be....
I saw Seb stepping up in his early days when he had his break out year but as a B & F winner and leader of this team he isn’t doing enough...
He needs to be a more dominant player and leader in this team...
If you can’t see that then we are watching different games...
Monday night he has a chance against the worst team in the league to do that and then the following week against the best performed team...
Let’s see how he goes....
I didn’t identify Hill as he has a 5 year contract with us and is our star recruit he deserves a bigger spray but I was also talking about list management potential end of year and Ross has some currency for a potential trade if we can get the right players in.... I know it’s an aggressive bold move but he isn’t doing enough for me...
Your admiration for Seb Ross is admirable Saynta but surely you would agree that he needs to pick up his game significantly against the Crows.saynta wrote: ↑Sun 19 Jul 2020 11:49amMe backing jaxon? Would be a first if true. Maybe I was just backing Dunstan...still am.Vazelos wrote: ↑Sun 19 Jul 2020 11:42am Saynta just read your posts about Dunstan in 2016 when I identified him as a player that I questioned his ability to be a long term solution for the club back in 2016 you were backing jaxon in the pro Dunstan camp back then now you claim my post about Seb Ross is rubbish...
Hope you are right this time and Seb becomes the leader we need him to be....
I saw Seb stepping up in his early days when he had his break out year but as a B & F winner and leader of this team he isn’t doing enough...
He needs to be a more dominant player and leader in this team...
If you can’t see that then we are watching different games...
Monday night he has a chance against the worst team in the league to do that and then the following week against the best performed team...
Let’s see how he goes....
I didn’t identify Hill as he has a 5 year contract with us and is our star recruit he deserves a bigger spray but I was also talking about list management potential end of year and Ross has some currency for a potential trade if we can get the right players in.... I know it’s an aggressive bold move but he isn’t doing enough for me...
Seb will never be traded unless he wants to go ffs.
Says you.Sanctorum wrote: ↑Sun 19 Jul 2020 12:35pmYour admiration for Seb Ross is admirable Saynta but surely you would agree that he needs to pick up his game significantly against the Crows.saynta wrote: ↑Sun 19 Jul 2020 11:49amMe backing jaxon? Would be a first if true. Maybe I was just backing Dunstan...still am.Vazelos wrote: ↑Sun 19 Jul 2020 11:42am Saynta just read your posts about Dunstan in 2016 when I identified him as a player that I questioned his ability to be a long term solution for the club back in 2016 you were backing jaxon in the pro Dunstan camp back then now you claim my post about Seb Ross is rubbish...
Hope you are right this time and Seb becomes the leader we need him to be....
I saw Seb stepping up in his early days when he had his break out year but as a B & F winner and leader of this team he isn’t doing enough...
He needs to be a more dominant player and leader in this team...
If you can’t see that then we are watching different games...
Monday night he has a chance against the worst team in the league to do that and then the following week against the best performed team...
Let’s see how he goes....
I didn’t identify Hill as he has a 5 year contract with us and is our star recruit he deserves a bigger spray but I was also talking about list management potential end of year and Ross has some currency for a potential trade if we can get the right players in.... I know it’s an aggressive bold move but he isn’t doing enough for me...
Seb will never be traded unless he wants to go ffs.
Notwithstanding Ross' multi B&Fs it his lack of impact with the ball that I find exasperating and at age 27 he should be a far more influential player instead of "fair average".
Every team that makes finals have one or more elite midfielders and right now St Kilda IMHO doesn't have one - only Zak Jones, Jack Steele and Dan Hannebery are performing "above average", with Billings, Gresham, Clark on the cusp. Brad Hill has been elite (which is why he was lured across with a big pay packet) and should find that form again soon.
So I contend that unless Ross can elevate his game significantly in the remaining games this year then as a RFA I would go along with trading him out as part of the process for the club to bring in an elite midfielder.
As I have posted before Seb has become the forums whipping boy. which is f****** disgraceful.WellardSaint wrote: ↑Sun 19 Jul 2020 2:02pm I'm no expert, but when I see Ross kick blindly and stand like a witches hat afterwards, I wonder why he's not running to pick up an oppo player, or running to assist.
Does that as a habit. Doesn't move.
He's a liability.
It's nice getting 25 touches, but when they're ineffective and never to our advantage, he's a list clogger.
Trade him for a draft pick.
He's never going to be targeted by oppo coaches as one of our weapons.
He's like a Star Wars stormtrooper- they're also known to blaze away without hitting targets