How the Saints are Winning

[samuraisaint]

Nice article.

I hope ABC know that we got absolutely smashed by Collingwood (40 pts in the context of this season is plenty, is it not?) just a couple of weeks ago.

With the same guys running around, the same coach and the same good vibes. Absolutely wiped out.

Notice anyone in their table of defenders spoils and intercepts? Nathan Gorilla Brown! Looking good!

GWS, Port Adelaide, Geelong and West Coast Eagles (if we play them in Perth) will all probably beat us easily, and Brisbane will too, but if we can win the rest as we should, we will win ten matches and play finals.
We won't finish top four, we'll probably only scrape in to the eight, but once we're there anything can happen.

I wouldn't be so sure about GWS or WCE.

I can agree with you about GWS - I reckon we do do well against them as a rule - fair enough. And I did qualify the West Coast Eagles as being more difficult to win should we play them in Perth. If we play them on the East Coast we're a show, for sure. In Perth, not so much.

[Devilhead]

Port are a very good side - will be tough to beat

Geelong are extremely beatable in fact they are cooked despite their current ladder position - inconsistency is becoming a trademark - good one minute terrible the next - sign of a side on the wane with their aging list

We always seem to play well against GWS albiet losing a few - they are beatable

Brisbane like Port are a very good - query about their away form?

WC have been lazy recently - reckon they will now start to build into the season - that said like GWS we seem to able to run them close

Collingwood played well against us Round 3 but I am confident we can turn the tables - next time will be much much closer

[WellardSaint]

A bit of a diversion, but i think it fits this topic and I didn't want to start a new thread.
I will name certain players who appear to be on the fringe (maybe one or two aren't quite right due to injury, though)

Webster, Savage, Robbo, Matty Parker, Dunstan, NJ Brown, Sinclair, McKenzie.
Has Ratts decided that these guys are depth and part of the past, and not a part of the future?
They've had ample chance in the past to really cement their spots,
but maybe they can't go to the next level and the coaches have put a question mark against them.

The guys who beat the Tigers would be very hard to shift and look like they're gonna take us far, but the ones missing out,
well, I don't see them getting back in except for injuries.

[Devilhead]

Half of those will be gone in year or 2

[WellardSaint]

Half of those will be gone in year or 2

Contracts:
2020 Savege and Brown
2021 Sinclair and Mackenzie and Webster (?)
Parker not sure about

[Scollop]

Dunstan, Savage, N Brown and DMac could be a chance for another lifeline at the trade table if Richo gets into Goodwin’s ear

Noticed that they had preferred ‘strong bodied’ players at the Dees last month or so instead of good ball users like Bennell and Jetta. Both have been named to play this week

[Secret Kiel]

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Look don't get me wrong, I have the upmost respect for the boys doing what they are doing. I have no doubt some of the players and the staff that relocated are doing it tough. At the very least I hope there are some positive's out of this years craziness that the players and staff can use to some sort of advantage when the full strength starts again.

[shanegrambeau]

....

Webster, Savage, Robbo, Matty Parker, Dunstan, NJ Brown, Sinclair, McKenzie.
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Of the bunch listed ...
Dunsatn, Sinclair and NJB the most immediate value.
From 2021
Robbo?, Parker, Webster?


Hey, fun fact, you know Fremantle is our best match up team among all AFL clubs we have played more than 30 games against. Furthermore, the last five years have been super close, but we are the Masters of Metricon having one won game there in the last five years. Freo, no wins! Don't let it happen. (It is at Metricon right?)

[samuraisaint]

....

Webster, Savage, Robbo, Matty Parker, Dunstan, NJ Brown, Sinclair, McKenzie.
....

Of the bunch listed ...
Dunsatn, Sinclair and NJB the most immediate value.
From 2021
Robbo?, Parker, Webster?


Hey, fun fact, you know Fremantle is our best match up team among all AFL clubs we have played more than 30 games against. Furthermore, the last five years have been super close, but we are the Masters of Metricon having one won game there in the last five years. Freo, no wins! Don't let it happen. (It is at Metricon right?)

Yes, we've won 7 matches there and lost 5.

[To the top]

What I do know is that the number of analysts we had on board pre the disruption were many - and they were critical to the Coach on a full time basis (and on demand)

Where those numbers are in the current circumstances I am unaware except to confidently assume the statisticians still play the crucial role

We have a Coach with that bias as his strength

Hence the approach to a former Hawthorn employee who had moved onto the AFL for reasons

Our Coach knows his work

It is a young side so there will be inconsistency but the focus will remain on what the data says and where expectation is including on patterns (so forward thinking)

[shanegrambeau]

What I do know is that the number of analysts we had on board pre the disruption were many - and they were critical to the Coach on a full time basis (and on demand)

Where those numbers are in the current circumstances I am unaware except to confidently assume the statisticians still play the crucial role

We have a Coach with that bias as his strength

Hence the approach to a former Hawthorn employee who had moved onto the AFL for reasons

Our Coach knows his work

It is a young side so there will be inconsistency but the focus will remain on what the data says and where expectation is including on patterns (so forward thinking)

I don't understand what you mean, but I reckon you're right.

I think you are saying,

1) We really got foccussed on statistics
2) It's partly because our coach likes stats, and he is particularly fond of them in comparison to other AFL coaches, and additionally, he is competent
3) It has led us in a pursuit of a some person with a lot of intel, who unfortunately turned down our advances and got a job with the AFL*
4) We are young so a stop-start pattern is assumed (sorry, that sounds wooden - and being a poet of my calibre, I am distressed, sorry that's bulls*** too)
5) You are not aware of the current crucial statistics, parameters etc..

*Has Roughy been poached?

Yeah, well we won at Metricon in 2018 by 2 points.
Enough said.

[shanegrambeau]

Yes, we've won 7 matches there and lost 5.

I think we have won one in the last five years.

[samuraisaint]

Yes, we've won 7 matches there and lost 5.

I think we have won one in the last five years.

Twice, I think - 2015 and 2018.

Overall our record at the Carrara ground is 7 - 5.

[shanegrambeau]

OK ABC...tell us why we completely meltdown...regularly. Show us the stats!

[The Fireman]

How the Saints are losing

[asiu]

insert swear words here

[Sainter_Dad]

With Hard Work and Pressure - sadly these qualities stayed in Melbourne based on today's performance.

[evertonfc]

I think we're incredibly overrated, both in here and by the media.

We're 3-3. Twice we've coughed up 30+ leads and the other time, we were ripped apart at the MCG.

Seriously, I don't get where all this fanatical optimism comes from. We haven't done any of the hard work required. The runs aren't on the board.

We're a very middle of the road team.

[shrodes]

I think we're incredibly overrated, both in here and by the media.

We're 3-3. Twice we've coughed up 30+ leads and the other time, we were ripped apart at the MCG.

Seriously, I don't get where all this fanatical optimism comes from. We haven't done any of the hard work required. The runs aren't on the board.

We're a very middle of the road team.

When we're playing well, it's that sort of exciting, free-flowing football that everyone is craving in a season full of low scores and boring play. Also I think generally speaking most opposition fans have a reasonably soft spot for the Saints as we've been unsuccessful for such a long time, or close but no cigar.

[Secret Kiel]

I think we're incredibly overrated, both in here and by the media.

We're 3-3. Twice we've coughed up 30+ leads and the other time, we were ripped apart at the MCG.

Seriously, I don't get where all this fanatical optimism comes from. We haven't done any of the hard work required. The runs aren't on the board.

We're a very middle of the road team.

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