Historical Context of Tonight's Win.
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Historical Context of Tonight's Win.
Tonight means a lot to me.
Before 1995 we had beaten Carlton 4 times out of the previous 30 contests, and only won a pathetic 7 contests out of more than 100 at Princes Park their home ground. We had won 16% of our matches against the glamorous Blues from Carlton.
By the beginning of 2002 we had still only won 35 out of our 193 matches against Carlton. They led us in the head-to-heads between the two clubs at 35-156!
Since then we have won an amazing 22 out of 29 matches, bringing our % of wins to 27%. This achievement has been officially recognised as one of the most stunning form reversals in the entire history of professional competitive sport. This century we have won 76% of our matches against our more glamorous rivals.
We've now won 57 matches against the Blues. For many years we were absolutely locked down on only 27 wins against them.
30 wins against an opponent may not sound like a lot, but when we consider that we only play them once a year usually, it displays our absolute dominance over this mob.
Our top 14 highest ever scores and top 8 winning margins have only come since 1990 - very recently in our 137 year club history! Growing up our biggest victory against the Blues was only 53 points which was back in 1966 and our highest score was a lowly 114 points - which was inexplicably a losing score (which the Blues had beaten 37 times!!!!)
For you younger Sainters - who are under 35 - let me tell ya, wins against this mob were very, very hard fought!!!!
Long may we reign. And might I add - Long might Long take mark of the year!!!!!
Before 1995 we had beaten Carlton 4 times out of the previous 30 contests, and only won a pathetic 7 contests out of more than 100 at Princes Park their home ground. We had won 16% of our matches against the glamorous Blues from Carlton.
By the beginning of 2002 we had still only won 35 out of our 193 matches against Carlton. They led us in the head-to-heads between the two clubs at 35-156!
Since then we have won an amazing 22 out of 29 matches, bringing our % of wins to 27%. This achievement has been officially recognised as one of the most stunning form reversals in the entire history of professional competitive sport. This century we have won 76% of our matches against our more glamorous rivals.
We've now won 57 matches against the Blues. For many years we were absolutely locked down on only 27 wins against them.
30 wins against an opponent may not sound like a lot, but when we consider that we only play them once a year usually, it displays our absolute dominance over this mob.
Our top 14 highest ever scores and top 8 winning margins have only come since 1990 - very recently in our 137 year club history! Growing up our biggest victory against the Blues was only 53 points which was back in 1966 and our highest score was a lowly 114 points - which was inexplicably a losing score (which the Blues had beaten 37 times!!!!)
For you younger Sainters - who are under 35 - let me tell ya, wins against this mob were very, very hard fought!!!!
Long may we reign. And might I add - Long might Long take mark of the year!!!!!
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Re: Historical Context of Tonight's Win.
My dear departed Mum, a Blues supporter, took me to Princes Park in 1964. From memory, we won. Adrian Gallagher made his debut for Carlton.
To think it took three decades to score another win there is abhorrent.
That's why I love beating this mob.
To think it took three decades to score another win there is abhorrent.
That's why I love beating this mob.
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Re: Historical Context of Tonight's Win.
For me... wins against Carlton and Essendon are the sweetest of all
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Re: Historical Context of Tonight's Win.
It all turned around when Hamill came to us and their president Elliot said something demeaning about it (I can't remember what).
As ex-president Peter Summers said:
“If we are going to be a contender, we may as well plan to win the bloody thing.”
St Kilda - At least we have a Crest!
“If we are going to be a contender, we may as well plan to win the bloody thing.”
St Kilda - At least we have a Crest!
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Re: Historical Context of Tonight's Win.
He called us a rabbleJacks Back wrote: ↑Thu 02 Jul 2020 11:41pm It all turned around when Hamill came to us and their president Elliot said something demeaning about it (I can't remember what).
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Re: Historical Context of Tonight's Win.
Agree.Trev from the Bush wrote: ↑Thu 02 Jul 2020 11:38pm My dear departed Mum, a Blues supporter, took me to Princes Park in 1964. From memory, we won. Adrian Gallagher made his debut for Carlton.
To think it took three decades to score another win there is abhorrent.
That's why I love beating this mob.
If your Mum was a Blubagger -
Was your Dad the Sainter, Trev?
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Re: Historical Context of Tonight's Win.
Carlton have never come to terms with the equalisation that the transition from VFL to AFL brought with it.
They cheated and swindled their way to many of their flags. Be it by player payments or player transfers.
Still struggling to grow out of their sense of entitlement.
I probably despise Carlton more than any other club. When I started watching football it is more than likely I didnt see us beat them for over a decade.
If they win a flag before we do I will probably stop watching footy.
They cheated and swindled their way to many of their flags. Be it by player payments or player transfers.
Still struggling to grow out of their sense of entitlement.
I probably despise Carlton more than any other club. When I started watching football it is more than likely I didnt see us beat them for over a decade.
If they win a flag before we do I will probably stop watching footy.
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Re: Historical Context of Tonight's Win.
Yes I remember that period of time. My Dad was a Blues supporter - I followed the Saints. AS a youngster I'd look forward to going to see Saints v Blues at Princes Park. Always lost. It was wonderful duting the Hamill/G Train era to see us begin to spank Blues in games - and they became the 'rabble.'
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Re: Historical Context of Tonight's Win.
Yes I remember that period of time. My Dad was a Blues supporter - I followed the Saints. AS a youngster I'd look forward to going to see Saints v Blues at Princes Park. Always lost. It was wonderful duting the Hamill/G Train era to see us begin to spank Blues in games - and they became the 'rabble.'
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Re: Historical Context of Tonight's Win.
Totally despise Caaarlton and their cheating paper bag culture.
A club with a rich unrivalled culture of corporate criminality ...
- George Harris, Ian Rice, John Elliot, Ian Collins and Richard Pratt to name but a few of their corrupt criminal Presidents.
Never ever EVER forget that in the early 80's they, through that slimebag piece of excrement Ian Collins, tried to have us declared bankrupt!
Every win over Caaarlton should be celebrated as a win for Good over Evil.
A club with a rich unrivalled culture of corporate criminality ...
- George Harris, Ian Rice, John Elliot, Ian Collins and Richard Pratt to name but a few of their corrupt criminal Presidents.
Never ever EVER forget that in the early 80's they, through that slimebag piece of excrement Ian Collins, tried to have us declared bankrupt!
Every win over Caaarlton should be celebrated as a win for Good over Evil.
The rest of Australia can wander mask-free, socialise, eat out, no curfews, no zoning, no police rings of steel, no illogical inconsistent rules.
They can even WATCH LIVE FOOTY!
They can even WATCH LIVE FOOTY!
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Re: Historical Context of Tonight's Win.
My son went to school with a guy who was a big Blues fan. On his graduation day I pointed out to him that Carlton didn’t beat St Kilda while he was in high school.
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Re: Historical Context of Tonight's Win.
kosifantutti wrote: ↑Fri 03 Jul 2020 8:23am My son went to school with a guy who was a big Blues fan. On his graduation day I pointed out to him that Carlton didn’t beat St Kilda while he was in high school.
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