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Re: Side v Carlton

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saynta wrote: Wed 01 Jul 2020 8:46pm
StPeter wrote: Wed 01 Jul 2020 7:53pm
tony74 wrote: Wed 01 Jul 2020 4:20pm Tow ball definitely not playing
Who is Tow ball?
Who has a head that looks like a tow ball? :wink:
The tow ball on my car does not have any hair on it.
But it does not have a hamstring problem.

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I just hope the selectors wake up and make a late change - Geary out and Sinclair in. Surely common sense has to prevail.


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I guessing a late change, Marsh out and either Sinclair or Byrnes in for some more run and carry


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minneapolis wrote: Tue 30 Jun 2020 6:40am
tony74 wrote: Mon 29 Jun 2020 9:45pm Pretty certain Gresh will be right.
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(Don't reckon he will play).
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you were right.

I would have given him a rest though.


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Darth Vader wrote: Mon 29 Jun 2020 5:05pm I wonder if game time being down 20% has anything to do with his disposals being down 20% ....?
It is arguable that with quarters being shortened from 20 minutes to 16 minutes that team possessions will be 20% less and hence individual players should have their possession count increased by 25% for comparison with previous years.
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In the case of the best midfielders they may well have almost as much game time as in the past with lesser players having even less game time as a consequence.


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ace wrote: Thu 02 Jul 2020 8:49am
Darth Vader wrote: Mon 29 Jun 2020 5:05pm I wonder if game time being down 20% has anything to do with his disposals being down 20% ....?
It is arguable that with quarters being shortened from 20 minutes to 16 minutes that team possessions will be 20% less and hence individual players should have their possession count increased by 25% for comparison with previous years.
BUT
In the case of the best midfielders they may well have almost as much game time as in the past with lesser players having even less game time as a consequence.
This is pretty easy to disprove as we have TOG%

2020: 69.75% game time
2019: 81.68% game time

https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players ... esham.html

So not only do we have reduced length of quarters but Gresh is also playing less game time. Which makes sense when you think of the fact he got a knee injury in round 1 and an eye injury in round 4. Of course his averages are down!


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Geary has previously put the glove on betts has he not?


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shrodes wrote: Thu 02 Jul 2020 8:58am
ace wrote: Thu 02 Jul 2020 8:49am
Darth Vader wrote: Mon 29 Jun 2020 5:05pm I wonder if game time being down 20% has anything to do with his disposals being down 20% ....?
It is arguable that with quarters being shortened from 20 minutes to 16 minutes that team possessions will be 20% less and hence individual players should have their possession count increased by 25% for comparison with previous years.
BUT
In the case of the best midfielders they may well have almost as much game time as in the past with lesser players having even less game time as a consequence.
This is pretty easy to disprove as we have TOG%

2020: 69.75% game time
2019: 81.68% game time

https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players ... esham.html

So not only do we have reduced length of quarters but Gresh is also playing less game time. Which makes sense when you think of the fact he got a knee injury in round 1 and an eye injury in round 4. Of course his averages are down!
2019 81.68% of 80 minutes = 65.3 minutes
2020 69.75% of 64 minutes = 44.6 minutes
So he has only 68% as much game minutes this year
But he is playing as a full time midfielder this year whereas last year he was a part time midfielder but spent most of the time asleep as a deep forward.


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MC Gusto wrote: Thu 02 Jul 2020 10:04am Geary has previously put the glove on betts has he not?
One good shirt front from Long and all Betts are off.


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shrodes wrote: Thu 02 Jul 2020 8:58am
ace wrote: Thu 02 Jul 2020 8:49am
Darth Vader wrote: Mon 29 Jun 2020 5:05pm I wonder if game time being down 20% has anything to do with his disposals being down 20% ....?
It is arguable that with quarters being shortened from 20 minutes to 16 minutes that team possessions will be 20% less and hence individual players should have their possession count increased by 25% for comparison with previous years.
BUT
In the case of the best midfielders they may well have almost as much game time as in the past with lesser players having even less game time as a consequence.
This is pretty easy to disprove as we have TOG%

2020: 69.75% game time
2019: 81.68% game time

https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players ... esham.html

So not only do we have reduced length of quarters but Gresh is also playing less game time. Which makes sense when you think of the fact he got a knee injury in round 1 and an eye injury in round 4. Of course his averages are down!
Gresh is being played almost exclusively as a midfielder this year, whereas in previous years he was played as a fwd who ran through the midfield. He hasn't kicked a goal this year which is disappointing in itself as I would expect him to be a goal kicking mid. Volume of possessions I don't weight as importantly as others. I'm satisfied with his average of 17 possessions for the year, especially considering the injuries he's sustained - he's missed 3 and a bit quarters this year. My criticism of him is that he's butchering the ball and not creating anything when he gets it. Boots it up in the air or mongrels it like a C grade local footballer. Gun mids give quality service to fwds. Jack Steven was never A standard for mine because he too often missed targets going fwd, but he could pin point the pass - was too inconsistent. I've yet to see Gresh lay up a fwd this year but I've seen him burn the ball heaps.

Weak selection for mine. Ratts had a chance to send a msg


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minneapolis wrote: Thu 02 Jul 2020 3:23am
minneapolis wrote: Tue 30 Jun 2020 6:40am
tony74 wrote: Mon 29 Jun 2020 9:45pm Pretty certain Gresh will be right.
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(Don't reckon he will play).
Tony,

you were right.

I would have given him a rest though.
I was wrong again. He played well tonight did Gresh. I don't like his kicking very much but he was good in close and laid some very useful tackles. Also seems fit enough. Good selection.


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1st half he was unsighted apart from a good goal.
2nd half much better, and in fact used the ball effectively. I was much happier with how he played and hopefully the last few weeks have been an anomaly


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Re: Side v Carlton

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sunsaint wrote: Wed 01 Jul 2020 4:33pm
tony74 wrote: Wed 01 Jul 2020 4:20pm Tow ball definitely not playing
yeah ok - towball
Think many are interested in if Bytel will debut
tell Ratts to give Gresham a rest

I want to see him grab the game and become our high profile Rising Star for 2020
As it turned out, one of the best games Gresh has played for a while.


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