Nicky Winmar suing Sam Newman and co-hosts for attempt to revise historical moment
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Re: Nicky Winmar suing Sam Newman and co-hosts for attempt to revise historical moment
that was basically a short story on a tee shirt
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It's why the bible and all of it's sequels are overbloated repositories of whacky ideas and rules. The bible should be one page, and on that page it should read,
Try not to be a CANT...just try!
Simple huh.
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Re: Nicky Winmar suing Sam Newman and co-hosts for attempt to revise historical moment
So depending on our posts you can determine the colour of our skin wow just wowSecret Kiel wrote: ↑Wed 01 Jul 2020 12:05pmClearly, CLEARLY, this is JBs issue also which is very plain to see from how this thread has played out. Many privileged white folk like JB still don't understand what rasism is or how thier "opinions" are hurtful and harmful and they just don't get that all you have to do is be respectful when someone asks you to stop engaging in hurtful behavior when asked to do so. It's this simple, just try not to be a see you next Tuesday...just try.BarryGrogan wrote: ↑Wed 01 Jul 2020 12:25amHe's quitting cause he can't handle the heat of being held to account about what you say.
He's lost. The same as a lot of old white folk are these days.
They don't get it. And they aren't used to it.
The thing is, he doesn't have to quit anything. He's still allowed his views - but he needs to accept that he'll be challenged on them by people.
That's nothing to drop his bundle over.
I must be f****** your head up then with my nickname and the fact I believe in free speech
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Re: Nicky Winmar suing Sam Newman and co-hosts for attempt to revise historical moment
Didn't Mike Sheahans daughter play AFLW for Collingwood?BarryGrogan wrote: ↑Wed 01 Jul 2020 12:04pmMike has been called out quite a few times for 'backward' views on many things. Particularly in relation to AFLW and whether chicks should be playing footy or not.
He seems perplexed each time and gets really rattled at being taken to account for his views.
This is the same.
He's confused.
My recollection is she played as a junior (was also tennis?) and then got drafted mature age to Collingwood but did a knee.
Not sure if it is relevant or not in the scheme of things, but I would assume it would be unlikely for him to hold those views in light of his own daughter.
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Re: Nicky Winmar suing Sam Newman and co-hosts for attempt to revise historical moment
And you are not? Confused that is.BarryGrogan wrote: ↑Wed 01 Jul 2020 12:04pmMike has been called out quite a few times for 'backward' views on many things. Particularly in relation to AFLW and whether chicks should be playing footy or not.
He seems perplexed each time and gets really rattled at being taken to account for his views.
This is the same.
He's confused.
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Re: Nicky Winmar suing Sam Newman and co-hosts for attempt to revise historical moment
I didn't realise JB hurt your feelings so badly S*K* after seeing through your incredibly clever line of questioning which only showed you are in desperate need of new friends and your duplicitous quoting. But to call him a "C" because he didn't bow to what essentially were "look at me" posts by your good self, that's histrionics.Secret Kiel wrote: ↑Wed 01 Jul 2020 12:05pmClearly, CLEARLY, this is JBs issue also which is very plain to see from how this thread has played out. Many privileged white folk like JB still don't understand what rasism is or how thier "opinions" are hurtful and harmful and they just don't get that all you have to do is be respectful when someone asks you to stop engaging in hurtful behavior when asked to do so. It's this simple, just try not to be a see you next Tuesday...just try.BarryGrogan wrote: ↑Wed 01 Jul 2020 12:25amHe's quitting cause he can't handle the heat of being held to account about what you say.
He's lost. The same as a lot of old white folk are these days.
They don't get it. And they aren't used to it.
The thing is, he doesn't have to quit anything. He's still allowed his views - but he needs to accept that he'll be challenged on them by people.
That's nothing to drop his bundle over.
Now you are replying to posts that do not involve him, yet drag his name into it because he dismissed you & question his achievements. Isn't that what the furore of the podcast is about, people questioning someone's achievements?
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Re: Nicky Winmar suing Sam Newman and co-hosts for attempt to revise historical moment
JB is loud and proud when it comes to his superiority so I haven't guessed any color.mcadam05 wrote: ↑Wed 01 Jul 2020 1:23pmSo depending on our posts you can determine the colour of our skin wow just wowSecret Kiel wrote: ↑Wed 01 Jul 2020 12:05pmClearly, CLEARLY, this is JBs issue also which is very plain to see from how this thread has played out. Many privileged white folk like JB still don't understand what rasism is or how thier "opinions" are hurtful and harmful and they just don't get that all you have to do is be respectful when someone asks you to stop engaging in hurtful behavior when asked to do so. It's this simple, just try not to be a see you next Tuesday...just try.BarryGrogan wrote: ↑Wed 01 Jul 2020 12:25amHe's quitting cause he can't handle the heat of being held to account about what you say.
He's lost. The same as a lot of old white folk are these days.
They don't get it. And they aren't used to it.
The thing is, he doesn't have to quit anything. He's still allowed his views - but he needs to accept that he'll be challenged on them by people.
That's nothing to drop his bundle over.
I must be f****** your head up then with my nickname and the fact I believe in free speech
On your misguided free speech belief; if you are invited into someone's house and they have a 'no swearing' policy do you respect that person's policy or do you you tell them your "free speech" policy takes precedence? And turn all potty mouth just to prove you have "free speech"?
Apologies if I've offended you by dumbing this discussion down too far, however in my recent experience people who throw out the get-out-of-jail-free card, aka "free speech" don't understand how simple and proper behavior has been hijacked and politicised. What you really believe is your freedom to offend and hurt others with "free" opinions. It never occurs to people like you that as soon as someone explains to you that you are being hurtful and could you please stop that that should be the end of it. Respect and common decency should kick in instinctively but usually people like you carry on with more determination to protect your freedom to be a <edited by mods>
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The podcast was about getting publicity. It worked.Ghost Like wrote: ↑Wed 01 Jul 2020 1:45pmI didn't realise JB hurt your feelings so badly S*K* after seeing through your incredibly clever line of questioning which only showed you are in desperate need of new friends and your duplicitous quoting. But to call him a "C" because he didn't bow to what essentially were "look at me" posts by your good self, that's histrionics.Secret Kiel wrote: ↑Wed 01 Jul 2020 12:05pmClearly, CLEARLY, this is JBs issue also which is very plain to see from how this thread has played out. Many privileged white folk like JB still don't understand what rasism is or how thier "opinions" are hurtful and harmful and they just don't get that all you have to do is be respectful when someone asks you to stop engaging in hurtful behavior when asked to do so. It's this simple, just try not to be a see you next Tuesday...just try.BarryGrogan wrote: ↑Wed 01 Jul 2020 12:25amHe's quitting cause he can't handle the heat of being held to account about what you say.
He's lost. The same as a lot of old white folk are these days.
They don't get it. And they aren't used to it.
The thing is, he doesn't have to quit anything. He's still allowed his views - but he needs to accept that he'll be challenged on them by people.
That's nothing to drop his bundle over.
Now you are replying to posts that do not involve him, yet drag his name into it because he dismissed you & question his achievements. Isn't that what the furore of the podcast is about, people questioning someone's achievements?
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Re: Nicky Winmar suing Sam Newman and co-hosts for attempt to revise historical moment
You really are insulting aren't you. Only a grub would infer JB was what you are inferring.Secret Kiel wrote: ↑Wed 01 Jul 2020 1:51pmJB is loud and proud when it comes to his superiority so I haven't guessed any color.mcadam05 wrote: ↑Wed 01 Jul 2020 1:23pmSo depending on our posts you can determine the colour of our skin wow just wowSecret Kiel wrote: ↑Wed 01 Jul 2020 12:05pmClearly, CLEARLY, this is JBs issue also which is very plain to see from how this thread has played out. Many privileged white folk like JB still don't understand what rasism is or how thier "opinions" are hurtful and harmful and they just don't get that all you have to do is be respectful when someone asks you to stop engaging in hurtful behavior when asked to do so. It's this simple, just try not to be a see you next Tuesday...just try.BarryGrogan wrote: ↑Wed 01 Jul 2020 12:25amHe's quitting cause he can't handle the heat of being held to account about what you say.
He's lost. The same as a lot of old white folk are these days.
They don't get it. And they aren't used to it.
The thing is, he doesn't have to quit anything. He's still allowed his views - but he needs to accept that he'll be challenged on them by people.
That's nothing to drop his bundle over.
I must be f****** your head up then with my nickname and the fact I believe in free speech
On your misguided free speech belief; if you are invited into someone's house and they have a 'no swearing' policy do you respect that person's policy or do you you tell them your "free speech" policy takes precedence? And turn all potty mouth just to prove you have "free speech"?
Apologies if I've offended you by dumbing this discussion down too far, however in my recent experience people who throw out the get-out-of-jail-free card, aka "free speech" don't understand how simple and proper behavior has been hijacked and politicised. What you really believe is your freedom to offend and hurt others with "free" opinions. It never occurs to people like you that as soon as someone explains to you that you are being hurtful and could you please stop that that should be the end of it. Respect and common decency should kick in instinctively but usually people like you carry on with more determination to protect your freedom to be a CANT.
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Re: Nicky Winmar suing Sam Newman and co-hosts for attempt to revise historical moment
“Free speech” is the most overused and misunderstood term flying around these days.
All posters are equal, but some posters are more equal than others.
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Re: Nicky Winmar suing Sam Newman and co-hosts for attempt to revise historical moment
Thank you. ExactlyBarryGrogan wrote: ↑Wed 01 Jul 2020 12:04amNo one is disputing how it was reprted at the time.
It's irrelevant.
The issue isn't about opinions from the time.
You're missing the entire point.
The issue is that it was suggested that Winmar has been bullshitting about it.
The issue is that the suggestion was that it wasn't an iconic moment at all. The suggestion was that it has all been a hoax - that Winmar has 'dined off it' because it suited his personal agenda to roll with the anti-racism theme even though that's never what it was about at all.
It's grossly offensive to Winmar. It's absolutely defamatory. I don't know how it can construed any other way.
The whole 'come on fellas, it's just an opinion' thing is so far off the mark it's not funny.
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Totally misunderstood
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And what, miss out on The Old Testament? It’s a total hoot. Ecclesiastes is the best.Secret Kiel wrote: ↑Wed 01 Jul 2020 1:22pmIt's why the bible and all of it's sequels are overbloated repositories of whacky ideas and rules. The bible should be one page, and on that page it should read,
Try not to be a CANT...just try!
Simple huh.
Me thinks you take the good book too literally.
Not being a c u next Tuesday is covered in the Decalogue (VI - X).
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Re: Nicky Winmar suing Sam Newman and co-hosts for attempt to revise historical moment
starting with Confucius?
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i’m all big kevNot being a c u next Tuesday is covered in the Decalogue (VI - X).
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wholeheartedly agreeThe whole 'come on fellas, it's just an opinion' thing is so far off the mark it's not funny.
it’s the modern
... c’mon mate , it’s just business
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You know what else we enjoy in this country apart from free speech is freedom of choice so if you dont like what Sam Newman says dont listen too him if dont like what Don Scott says dont listen too him , this should never see the light of day in a court room just absolute nonsense
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But we don't have "freedom of speech" in this country.mcadam05 wrote: ↑Wed 01 Jul 2020 5:20pm You know what else we enjoy in this country apart from free speech is freedom of choice so if you dont like what Sam Newman says dont listen too him if dont like what Don Scott says dont listen too him , this should never see the light of day in a court room just absolute nonsense
Like I said earlier, people have no idea what that even means, but continue to use it as reasoning for their actions.
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I don't read fiction books so I'll have to take your word on that one.SaintPav wrote: ↑Wed 01 Jul 2020 3:19pmAnd what, miss out on The Old Testament? It’s a total hoot. Ecclesiastes is the best.Secret Kiel wrote: ↑Wed 01 Jul 2020 1:22pmIt's why the bible and all of it's sequels are overbloated repositories of whacky ideas and rules. The bible should be one page, and on that page it should read,
Try not to be a CANT...just try!
Simple huh.
Me thinks you take the good book too literally.
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Come out and say the real word you weasel and lets see how long it takes to get you a months banning.Secret Kiel wrote: ↑Wed 01 Jul 2020 1:22pm
It's why the bible and all of it's sequels are overbloated repositories of whacky ideas and rules. The bible should be one page, and on that page it should read,
Try not to be a CANT...just try!
Simple huh.
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Is there any chance this thread can be locked or moved BfromUSA? I think it's run its race (no pun intended) but we are beginning to circle each other without finding common ground, common sense or simple agreement or basic respect.
I am more than happy to discuss racism but my belief is that it's not black & white (again no pun intended) which is part of what causes so much angst. I can dislike people of different colours, races and religions, including my own but that does not necessarily make it racist, depending on context, experience and "skin" in the game.
I am more than happy to discuss racism but my belief is that it's not black & white (again no pun intended) which is part of what causes so much angst. I can dislike people of different colours, races and religions, including my own but that does not necessarily make it racist, depending on context, experience and "skin" in the game.
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I think the Sick Kant is enjoying some well deserved R&R from the forum.HarryM wrote: ↑Wed 01 Jul 2020 6:21pmCome out and say the real word you weasel and lets see how long it takes to get you a months banning.Secret Kiel wrote: ↑Wed 01 Jul 2020 1:22pm
It's why the bible and all of it's sequels are overbloated repositories of whacky ideas and rules. The bible should be one page, and on that page it should read,
Try not to be a CANT...just try!
Simple huh.''
Oh and another racist here, what are ya going do?
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I’m happy to read everyone’s opinions but please stop with the long quoting s***!!
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Re: Nicky Winmar suing Sam Newman and co-hosts for attempt to revise historical moment
a lot of the boys used to go me
about ‘being so aggressive’ in my posting style
(many moons ago)
i was a little resistant to that charge ,
nearly offended even , INITIALLY
... i thought i was being direct
so ... the point being
... sometimes we see ‘aggression’ where it’s not intended
just saying
about ‘being so aggressive’ in my posting style
(many moons ago)
i was a little resistant to that charge ,
nearly offended even , INITIALLY
... i thought i was being direct
so ... the point being
... sometimes we see ‘aggression’ where it’s not intended
just saying
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