Ruckman and kicking.
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Ruckman and kicking.
A pet hate as a midfielder is ruckman that grab the ball out of the ruck and kick it. Also ones that won't release the ball by hand to runners prefering to kick it themselves. Marshall is starting to fall for this trap and its a detrimental to the team.
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Re: Ruckman and kicking.
He’s a good kick though Curly. It may not always come off, but don’t you like that he backs himself?
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Re: Ruckman and kicking.
He may be a good kick but he should be giving it off to the ball carriers.
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Re: Ruckman and kicking.
Ruckman getting monstered.
I noticed at many throw-ins, Nankervis, when on the wrong side of the boundary umpires throw, using his greater weight and strength moving Marshall sideways out of the contest.
Marshall needs to be more aware and disengage physically, then go for the ball.
I noticed at many throw-ins, Nankervis, when on the wrong side of the boundary umpires throw, using his greater weight and strength moving Marshall sideways out of the contest.
Marshall needs to be more aware and disengage physically, then go for the ball.
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Re: Ruckman and kicking.
Sorry I disagree Marshall is the longest kick in our team and one of the best as well.
I have no problem with him kicking the ball if he has the time and space.
If he is under pressure and there is a handball receiver available in a better position then yes he should dish of in that kind of scenario
I have no problem with him kicking the ball if he has the time and space.
If he is under pressure and there is a handball receiver available in a better position then yes he should dish of in that kind of scenario
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Re: Ruckman and kicking.
Surely his team mates are well aware and have trained this tactic as would those up the field.
A hap hazard kick to the forward line can be more effective than a measured kick some times.
I don't mind it, it he has a midfield option I'm sure he'd use it.
A hap hazard kick to the forward line can be more effective than a measured kick some times.
I don't mind it, it he has a midfield option I'm sure he'd use it.
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Re: Ruckman and kicking.
Nothing worse as a mid than having some bloke grab it and kick it blindly time and time again.Joffa Burns wrote: ↑Mon 29 Jun 2020 12:47pm Surely his team mates are well aware and have trained this tactic as would those up the field.
A hap hazard kick to the forward line can be more effective than a measured kick some times.
I don't mind it, it he has a midfield option I'm sure he'd use it.
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Re: Ruckman and kicking.
Maybe one thing worse is being the forward on the end of it.CURLY wrote: ↑Mon 29 Jun 2020 12:58pmNothing worse as a mid than having some bloke grab it and kick it blindly time and time again.Joffa Burns wrote: ↑Mon 29 Jun 2020 12:47pm Surely his team mates are well aware and have trained this tactic as would those up the field.
A hap hazard kick to the forward line can be more effective than a measured kick some times.
I don't mind it, it he has a midfield option I'm sure he'd use it.
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Re: Ruckman and kicking.
CorrectJoffa Burns wrote: ↑Mon 29 Jun 2020 12:59pmMaybe one thing worse is being the forward on the end of it.CURLY wrote: ↑Mon 29 Jun 2020 12:58pmNothing worse as a mid than having some bloke grab it and kick it blindly time and time again.Joffa Burns wrote: ↑Mon 29 Jun 2020 12:47pm Surely his team mates are well aware and have trained this tactic as would those up the field.
A hap hazard kick to the forward line can be more effective than a measured kick some times.
I don't mind it, it he has a midfield option I'm sure he'd use it.
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Re: Ruckman and kicking.
Not if you're in front as a forward.
Most good forward prefer a quick kick which is haphazard than a targeted kick when they're outnumbered.
Most good forward prefer a quick kick which is haphazard than a targeted kick when they're outnumbered.
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Re: Ruckman and kicking.
To be fair, unless it's Hill, Hannebury or Billings - I'd much rather Marshall kick it himself than give it off.
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Re: Ruckman and kicking.
BillingsBarryGrogan wrote: ↑Mon 29 Jun 2020 1:39pmTo be fair, unless it's Hill, Hannebury or Billings - I'd much rather Marshall kick it himself than give it off.
Hill
Clarke
Hannerbury
Butler
Wilkie
Membrey
Steele
Coffield
Paton
JONES
All should be 100% getting the ball off Marshall Onl
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Re: Ruckman and kicking.
I reckon Marshall is a far better kick in play than most of them.CURLY wrote: ↑Mon 29 Jun 2020 1:50pmBillingsBarryGrogan wrote: ↑Mon 29 Jun 2020 1:39pmTo be fair, unless it's Hill, Hannebury or Billings - I'd much rather Marshall kick it himself than give it off.
Hill
Clarke
Hannerbury
Butler
Wilkie
Membrey
Steele
Coffield
Paton
JONES
All should be 100% getting the ball off Marshall Onl
I actually think Marshall should be played as the 'big mid' that drifts forward and kicks goals, as opposed to the traditional ruckman.
He's very good around the ground. His footskills are excellent.
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Re: Ruckman and kicking.
For a ruckman maybe.BarryGrogan wrote: ↑Mon 29 Jun 2020 2:05pmI reckon Marshall is a far better kick in play than most of them.CURLY wrote: ↑Mon 29 Jun 2020 1:50pmBillingsBarryGrogan wrote: ↑Mon 29 Jun 2020 1:39pmTo be fair, unless it's Hill, Hannebury or Billings - I'd much rather Marshall kick it himself than give it off.
Hill
Clarke
Hannerbury
Butler
Wilkie
Membrey
Steele
Coffield
Paton
JONES
All should be 100% getting the ball off Marshall Onl
I actually think Marshall should be played as the 'big mid' that drifts forward and kicks goals, as opposed to the traditional ruckman.
He's very good around the ground. His footskills are excellent.
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Re: Ruckman and kicking.
*Seb Ross has joined the chatCURLY wrote: ↑Mon 29 Jun 2020 12:58pmNothing worse as a mid than having some bloke grab it and kick it blindly time and time again.Joffa Burns wrote: ↑Mon 29 Jun 2020 12:47pm Surely his team mates are well aware and have trained this tactic as would those up the field.
A hap hazard kick to the forward line can be more effective than a measured kick some times.
I don't mind it, it he has a midfield option I'm sure he'd use it.
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Re: Ruckman and kicking.
I don't mind the ruckman grabbing the ball out of the ruck and booting it forward if it's in a congested area. The team should set up like this is always a possibility and have someone ready to contest.
Like said above, we have plenty of ball carriers who often just do this anyway, so he's just cutting out the middle man.
Like said above, we have plenty of ball carriers who often just do this anyway, so he's just cutting out the middle man.
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Re: Ruckman and kicking.
+1, Marshall did it a number of times last year when the rule was changed, to good effect. He tried it a couple of times on the weekend and it didn't come off. Play on.The_Dud wrote: ↑Mon 29 Jun 2020 3:34pm I don't mind the ruckman grabbing the ball out of the ruck and booting it forward if it's in a congested area. The team should set up like this is always a possibility and have someone ready to contest.
Like said above, we have plenty of ball carriers who often just do this anyway, so he's just cutting out the middle man.
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Re: Ruckman and kicking.
This. He's not starting any trap, he's done it from day one which bypassed our lackluster midfield. It's fine, he's not a tap ruckman, our mids plan to rove the opposition ruck, if Marshall wins he boots it. Simple, no complications.BarryGrogan wrote: ↑Mon 29 Jun 2020 1:39pmTo be fair, unless it's Hill, Hannebury or Billings - I'd much rather Marshall kick it himself than give it off.
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Re: Ruckman and kicking.
Seb doesn't kick it forward in those situation the kicks usually just end up on the wing where there is no one.WellardSaint wrote: ↑Mon 29 Jun 2020 2:35pm*Seb Ross has joined the chatCURLY wrote: ↑Mon 29 Jun 2020 12:58pmNothing worse as a mid than having some bloke grab it and kick it blindly time and time again.Joffa Burns wrote: ↑Mon 29 Jun 2020 12:47pm Surely his team mates are well aware and have trained this tactic as would those up the field.
A hap hazard kick to the forward line can be more effective than a measured kick some times.
I don't mind it, it he has a midfield option I'm sure he'd use it.
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Re: Ruckman and kicking.
I’d prefer Marshall kicking it than Seb any day of the week.WellardSaint wrote: ↑Mon 29 Jun 2020 2:35pm*Seb Ross has joined the chatCURLY wrote: ↑Mon 29 Jun 2020 12:58pmNothing worse as a mid than having some bloke grab it and kick it blindly time and time again.Joffa Burns wrote: ↑Mon 29 Jun 2020 12:47pm Surely his team mates are well aware and have trained this tactic as would those up the field.
A hap hazard kick to the forward line can be more effective than a measured kick some times.
I don't mind it, it he has a midfield option I'm sure he'd use it.