Agree remboy, my suggestion would be to encourage a larger list in 2021 & contracts extended by a year. That will allow for 3 to 5 players being added. Then gradually cut each year after.remboy wrote: ↑Sun 22 Mar 2020 7:10pmI agree with the idea of cancelling the season as we know it. A best case scenario now would be to play around 12 games. It wouldn’t make a ‘premiership’ almost meaningless. Play as many games as the situation allows then a couple of ‘finals’ at the end but don’t award a flag.Sanctorum wrote: ↑Sun 22 Mar 2020 6:42pm . But if there is a further delay, I suggest the AFL should consider cancelling the 2020 premiership competition altogether and play a knock-out fixture culminating in a final at the end of September. For the 2020 NAB draft simply use the 2019 final ladder to decide on selections, minus the extra concessions given to the Suns.
The draft is going to be interesting given that the players who would be drafted will be lucky to play at all this year.
On the brightside...
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Ghost Like wrote: ↑Sun 22 Mar 2020 8:03pmAgree remboy, my suggestion would be to encourage a larger list in 2021 & contracts extended by a year. That will allow for 3 to 5 players being added. Then gradually cut each year after.remboy wrote: ↑Sun 22 Mar 2020 7:10pmI agree with the idea of cancelling the season as we know it. A best case scenario now would be to play around 12 games. It wouldn’t make a ‘premiership’ almost meaningless. Play as many games as the situation allows then a couple of ‘finals’ at the end but don’t award a flag.Sanctorum wrote: ↑Sun 22 Mar 2020 6:42pm . But if there is a further delay, I suggest the AFL should consider cancelling the 2020 premiership competition altogether and play a knock-out fixture culminating in a final at the end of September. For the 2020 NAB draft simply use the 2019 final ladder to decide on selections, minus the extra concessions given to the Suns.
The draft is going to be interesting given that the players who would be drafted will be lucky to play at all this year.
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Gil the Dill will be obsessed with trying to have a 4 week finals series even if there are say only 8 rounds.
He’s a moron and only cares about the $$$ over integrity.
He’s a moron and only cares about the $$$ over integrity.
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I can get back to my stamp collection
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17 games increases the likelihood of a completed season.skeptic wrote: ↑Sun 22 Mar 2020 3:57pmApparently 17 is the safe numberSecret Kiel wrote: ↑Sun 22 Mar 2020 3:51pm Only 2 more games to go before the seaon is postponed and the AFL can start making decisions based on health and safety.
Surely you're smart enough to understand 17 is less than 22? And 17 allows all teams to play each other.
Maybe not...
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Surely you’re smart enough to understand that currently and actually before round 1 started that there is no safe number of rounds to play.Spinner wrote: ↑Mon 23 Mar 2020 3:16am17 games increases the likelihood of a completed season.skeptic wrote: ↑Sun 22 Mar 2020 3:57pmApparently 17 is the safe numberSecret Kiel wrote: ↑Sun 22 Mar 2020 3:51pm Only 2 more games to go before the seaon is postponed and the AFL can start making decisions based on health and safety.
Surely you're smart enough to understand 17 is less than 22? And 17 allows all teams to play each other.
Maybe not...
Perhaps that’s skeptics point.
Of course Australia is different to every other country in the world that’s why we can also keep schools open
Maybe not....
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You’re still going with this?Spinner wrote: ↑Mon 23 Mar 2020 3:16am17 games increases the likelihood of a completed season.skeptic wrote: ↑Sun 22 Mar 2020 3:57pmApparently 17 is the safe numberSecret Kiel wrote: ↑Sun 22 Mar 2020 3:51pm Only 2 more games to go before the seaon is postponed and the AFL can start making decisions based on health and safety.
Surely you're smart enough to understand 17 is less than 22? And 17 allows all teams to play each other.
Maybe not...
How did it work out?
Did the idiotic plan not last one round and then they went to one of the suggestions that clearly made more sense.
You’re not much of a lateral thinker are you
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It was beyond idiotic. Amongst all of the unjustifiable aspects of going ahead with round 1, could you imagine the optics of having testing and medical resources being redirected to footballers throughout this crisis.skeptic wrote: ↑Mon 23 Mar 2020 7:33amYou’re still going with this?Spinner wrote: ↑Mon 23 Mar 2020 3:16am17 games increases the likelihood of a completed season.skeptic wrote: ↑Sun 22 Mar 2020 3:57pmApparently 17 is the safe numberSecret Kiel wrote: ↑Sun 22 Mar 2020 3:51pm Only 2 more games to go before the seaon is postponed and the AFL can start making decisions based on health and safety.
Surely you're smart enough to understand 17 is less than 22? And 17 allows all teams to play each other.
Maybe not...
How did it work out?
Did the idiotic plan not last one round and then they went to one of the suggestions that clearly made more sense.
You’re not much of a lateral thinker are you
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saintspremiers wrote: ↑Mon 23 Mar 2020 4:56amSurely you’re smart enough to understand that currently and actually before round 1 started that there is no safe number of rounds to play.Spinner wrote: ↑Mon 23 Mar 2020 3:16am17 games increases the likelihood of a completed season.skeptic wrote: ↑Sun 22 Mar 2020 3:57pmApparently 17 is the safe numberSecret Kiel wrote: ↑Sun 22 Mar 2020 3:51pm Only 2 more games to go before the seaon is postponed and the AFL can start making decisions based on health and safety.
Surely you're smart enough to understand 17 is less than 22? And 17 allows all teams to play each other.
Maybe not...
Perhaps that’s skeptics point.
Of course Australia is different to every other country in the world that’s why we can also keep schools open
Maybe not....
Who said it was safe... ?
17 is better than 22. Very simple to understand.
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skeptic wrote: ↑Mon 23 Mar 2020 7:33amYou’re still going with this?Spinner wrote: ↑Mon 23 Mar 2020 3:16am17 games increases the likelihood of a completed season.skeptic wrote: ↑Sun 22 Mar 2020 3:57pmApparently 17 is the safe numberSecret Kiel wrote: ↑Sun 22 Mar 2020 3:51pm Only 2 more games to go before the seaon is postponed and the AFL can start making decisions based on health and safety.
Surely you're smart enough to understand 17 is less than 22? And 17 allows all teams to play each other.
Maybe not...
How did it work out?
Did the idiotic plan not last one round and then they went to one of the suggestions that clearly made more sense.
You’re not much of a lateral thinker are you
How many games left to hopefully have a completed season?
It was a matter of when not if the game got paused. Seems like you just prefer no plan at all.
Better than a no thinker.
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You’ve clearly backed yourself into a corner here haven’t you arguing that a plan that failed dismally is better than then plan that should have immediately and did eventually go ahead.Spinner wrote: ↑Mon 23 Mar 2020 8:32amskeptic wrote: ↑Mon 23 Mar 2020 7:33amYou’re still going with this?Spinner wrote: ↑Mon 23 Mar 2020 3:16am17 games increases the likelihood of a completed season.skeptic wrote: ↑Sun 22 Mar 2020 3:57pmApparently 17 is the safe numberSecret Kiel wrote: ↑Sun 22 Mar 2020 3:51pm Only 2 more games to go before the seaon is postponed and the AFL can start making decisions based on health and safety.
Surely you're smart enough to understand 17 is less than 22? And 17 allows all teams to play each other.
Maybe not...
How did it work out?
Did the idiotic plan not last one round and then they went to one of the suggestions that clearly made more sense.
You’re not much of a lateral thinker are you
How many games left to hopefully have a completed season?
It was a matter of when not if the game got paused. Seems like you just prefer no plan at all.
Better than a no thinker.
The argument from the get go was making plans that didn’t make sense... that we’re definitely going to fail because they were ill thought out
You’re now conceding this point
This trying to save face is now becoming pathetic.
You played the man, you were sat down.. own it and move on
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on the brightside. we were so close to an undefeated season, on the downside, it could be our first winless season since 1902!
oh, and it wasn't just that we let north run all over us, we did so against a team with a one man bench. i saw nothing from the coach to stop the run on. i did see the same st kilda style and lack of fight that richo delivered us.
oh, and it wasn't just that we let north run all over us, we did so against a team with a one man bench. i saw nothing from the coach to stop the run on. i did see the same st kilda style and lack of fight that richo delivered us.
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skeptic wrote: ↑Mon 23 Mar 2020 8:36amYou’ve clearly backed yourself into a corner here haven’t you arguing that a plan that failed dismally is better than then plan that should have immediately and did eventually go ahead.Spinner wrote: ↑Mon 23 Mar 2020 8:32amskeptic wrote: ↑Mon 23 Mar 2020 7:33amYou’re still going with this?Spinner wrote: ↑Mon 23 Mar 2020 3:16am17 games increases the likelihood of a completed season.skeptic wrote: ↑Sun 22 Mar 2020 3:57pmApparently 17 is the safe numberSecret Kiel wrote: ↑Sun 22 Mar 2020 3:51pm Only 2 more games to go before the seaon is postponed and the AFL can start making decisions based on health and safety.
Surely you're smart enough to understand 17 is less than 22? And 17 allows all teams to play each other.
Maybe not...
How did it work out?
Did the idiotic plan not last one round and then they went to one of the suggestions that clearly made more sense.
You’re not much of a lateral thinker are you
How many games left to hopefully have a completed season?
It was a matter of when not if the game got paused. Seems like you just prefer no plan at all.
Better than a no thinker.
The argument from the get go was making plans that didn’t make sense... that we’re definitely going to fail because they were ill thought out
You’re now conceding this point
This trying to save face is now becoming pathetic.
You played the man, you were sat down.. own it and move on
This is hilarious that you think that. Very amusing.
As said from the start, the logic behind a 17 game season makes sense, because 17 is less than 22. This is now the fourth time someone has had to explain this basic math to you. Do I need to go into how many weeks there are in a year?
No one played the man. You just offended because someone called out a stupid post.
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on the brightside
in cases of raised stress levels
... using the (softer) techniques of ‘brainstorming’
are hugely beneficial to the mob
everyone can air
everyone can rebut
everyone can understand
everyone feels a part of it
the last bit is important
this is edumacation not humiliation
those with the smarts
drag those below them up the f****** hill
we receive as we give
ie ... there’s punters further up the hill
than where we all currently stand
got it ?
work as a team , team.
gaz out
coz he’s not interested in getting the sh1ts
in cases of raised stress levels
... using the (softer) techniques of ‘brainstorming’
are hugely beneficial to the mob
everyone can air
everyone can rebut
everyone can understand
everyone feels a part of it
the last bit is important
this is edumacation not humiliation
those with the smarts
drag those below them up the f****** hill
we receive as we give
ie ... there’s punters further up the hill
than where we all currently stand
got it ?
work as a team , team.
gaz out
coz he’s not interested in getting the sh1ts
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The logic makes no sense because if 17 games can go ahead there’s no reason why more couldn’tSpinner wrote: ↑Mon 23 Mar 2020 11:37amskeptic wrote: ↑Mon 23 Mar 2020 8:36amYou’ve clearly backed yourself into a corner here haven’t you arguing that a plan that failed dismally is better than then plan that should have immediately and did eventually go ahead.Spinner wrote: ↑Mon 23 Mar 2020 8:32amskeptic wrote: ↑Mon 23 Mar 2020 7:33amYou’re still going with this?Spinner wrote: ↑Mon 23 Mar 2020 3:16am17 games increases the likelihood of a completed season.skeptic wrote: ↑Sun 22 Mar 2020 3:57pmApparently 17 is the safe numberSecret Kiel wrote: ↑Sun 22 Mar 2020 3:51pm Only 2 more games to go before the seaon is postponed and the AFL can start making decisions based on health and safety.
Surely you're smart enough to understand 17 is less than 22? And 17 allows all teams to play each other.
Maybe not...
How did it work out?
Did the idiotic plan not last one round and then they went to one of the suggestions that clearly made more sense.
You’re not much of a lateral thinker are you
How many games left to hopefully have a completed season?
It was a matter of when not if the game got paused. Seems like you just prefer no plan at all.
Better than a no thinker.
The argument from the get go was making plans that didn’t make sense... that we’re definitely going to fail because they were ill thought out
You’re now conceding this point
This trying to save face is now becoming pathetic.
You played the man, you were sat down.. own it and move on
This is hilarious that you think that. Very amusing.
As said from the start, the logic behind a 17 game season makes sense, because 17 is less than 22. This is now the fourth time someone has had to explain this basic math to you. Do I need to go into how many weeks there are in a year?
No one played the man. You just offended because someone called out a stupid post.
It’s not safer, it’s no more practical... it’s not less of a burden.
And it didn’t work out.
It was illogical and it has been found out to be so
There is no rationale argument that a 17 round season was more likely to go ahead then a 22 game one.
It’s either unsafe or it’s not.
It wasn’t
And it’s clear you’re on your own here even though you’ve conceded every other point like it was never safe
And it didn’t work
Keep swearing it was a good idea though (despite the fact that it went against all relevant logic)...
Better hey 17 is less than 22 right
Well 1 is less than 17 and 0 is less than that
What do you think was the safest
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His disposal was very good. Looked composed with the pill. Unlike Lonie who struggles to hit a basic target.Joffa Burns wrote: ↑Sun 22 Mar 2020 3:59pm What was everyones take on Hannebery?
Looks very slow and rushed to me at this early point in time.
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yep.desertsaint wrote: ↑Mon 23 Mar 2020 8:52am on the brightside. we were so close to an undefeated season, on the downside, it could be our first winless season since 1902!
oh, and it wasn't just that we let north run all over us, we did so against a team with a one man bench. i saw nothing from the coach to stop the run on. i did see the same st kilda style and lack of fight that richo delivered us.
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Wow. Some of the most incoherent dribble I've ever read.skeptic wrote: ↑Mon 23 Mar 2020 12:50pmThe logic makes no sense because if 17 games can go ahead there’s no reason why more couldn’tSpinner wrote: ↑Mon 23 Mar 2020 11:37amskeptic wrote: ↑Mon 23 Mar 2020 8:36amYou’ve clearly backed yourself into a corner here haven’t you arguing that a plan that failed dismally is better than then plan that should have immediately and did eventually go ahead.Spinner wrote: ↑Mon 23 Mar 2020 8:32amskeptic wrote: ↑Mon 23 Mar 2020 7:33amYou’re still going with this?Spinner wrote: ↑Mon 23 Mar 2020 3:16am17 games increases the likelihood of a completed season.skeptic wrote: ↑Sun 22 Mar 2020 3:57pmApparently 17 is the safe numberSecret Kiel wrote: ↑Sun 22 Mar 2020 3:51pm Only 2 more games to go before the seaon is postponed and the AFL can start making decisions based on health and safety.
Surely you're smart enough to understand 17 is less than 22? And 17 allows all teams to play each other.
Maybe not...
How did it work out?
Did the idiotic plan not last one round and then they went to one of the suggestions that clearly made more sense.
You’re not much of a lateral thinker are you
How many games left to hopefully have a completed season?
It was a matter of when not if the game got paused. Seems like you just prefer no plan at all.
Better than a no thinker.
The argument from the get go was making plans that didn’t make sense... that we’re definitely going to fail because they were ill thought out
You’re now conceding this point
This trying to save face is now becoming pathetic.
You played the man, you were sat down.. own it and move on
This is hilarious that you think that. Very amusing.
As said from the start, the logic behind a 17 game season makes sense, because 17 is less than 22. This is now the fourth time someone has had to explain this basic math to you. Do I need to go into how many weeks there are in a year?
No one played the man. You just offended because someone called out a stupid post.
It’s not safer, it’s no more practical... it’s not less of a burden.
And it didn’t work out.
It was illogical and it has been found out to be so
There is no rationale argument that a 17 round season was more likely to go ahead then a 22 game one.
It’s either unsafe or it’s not.
It wasn’t
And it’s clear you’re on your own here even though you’ve conceded every other point like it was never safe
And it didn’t work
Keep swearing it was a good idea though (despite the fact that it went against all relevant logic)...
Better hey 17 is less than 22 right
Well 1 is less than 17 and 0 is less than that
What do you think was the safest
I'll give another go given you find this concept difficult to understand... Given they are on pause for two months, 17 is leaps and bounds more manageable than 22 games.
You seem to be arguing a complete cancellation of the season, a discussion I have never been a part of. Safety? Once again, never contributed to that discussion around safety.
You said there was no logic in 17... but there is heaps. They might not play again, in which it doesn't make a difference, except a very logical attempt to fit in a season of football.
Looking forward to another dribbling, confused reply... happy to explain it for you again and again. I have a lot more time on my hands now.
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Agree, it seems straightforward to me that 17 rounds was a sensible and well considered decision at the time. The fact that only one round has been played has no relevance to the 22 to 17 argument - except the AFL is in a much better position to complete 16 rounds rather than 21, if the opportunity arises, much more flexibility. A completed season does not look very likely at present, but at least the decision gives it the best chance.Spinner wrote: ↑Tue 24 Mar 2020 7:55amWow. Some of the most incoherent dribble I've ever read.skeptic wrote: ↑Mon 23 Mar 2020 12:50pmThe logic makes no sense because if 17 games can go ahead there’s no reason why more couldn’tSpinner wrote: ↑Mon 23 Mar 2020 11:37amskeptic wrote: ↑Mon 23 Mar 2020 8:36amYou’ve clearly backed yourself into a corner here haven’t you arguing that a plan that failed dismally is better than then plan that should have immediately and did eventually go ahead.Spinner wrote: ↑Mon 23 Mar 2020 8:32amskeptic wrote: ↑Mon 23 Mar 2020 7:33amYou’re still going with this?Spinner wrote: ↑Mon 23 Mar 2020 3:16am17 games increases the likelihood of a completed season.skeptic wrote: ↑Sun 22 Mar 2020 3:57pmApparently 17 is the safe numberSecret Kiel wrote: ↑Sun 22 Mar 2020 3:51pm Only 2 more games to go before the seaon is postponed and the AFL can start making decisions based on health and safety.
Surely you're smart enough to understand 17 is less than 22? And 17 allows all teams to play each other.
Maybe not...
How did it work out?
Did the idiotic plan not last one round and then they went to one of the suggestions that clearly made more sense.
You’re not much of a lateral thinker are you
How many games left to hopefully have a completed season?
It was a matter of when not if the game got paused. Seems like you just prefer no plan at all.
Better than a no thinker.
The argument from the get go was making plans that didn’t make sense... that we’re definitely going to fail because they were ill thought out
You’re now conceding this point
This trying to save face is now becoming pathetic.
You played the man, you were sat down.. own it and move on
This is hilarious that you think that. Very amusing.
As said from the start, the logic behind a 17 game season makes sense, because 17 is less than 22. This is now the fourth time someone has had to explain this basic math to you. Do I need to go into how many weeks there are in a year?
No one played the man. You just offended because someone called out a stupid post.
It’s not safer, it’s no more practical... it’s not less of a burden.
And it didn’t work out.
It was illogical and it has been found out to be so
There is no rationale argument that a 17 round season was more likely to go ahead then a 22 game one.
It’s either unsafe or it’s not.
It wasn’t
And it’s clear you’re on your own here even though you’ve conceded every other point like it was never safe
And it didn’t work
Keep swearing it was a good idea though (despite the fact that it went against all relevant logic)...
Better hey 17 is less than 22 right
Well 1 is less than 17 and 0 is less than that
What do you think was the safest
I'll give another go given you find this concept difficult to understand... Given they are on pause for two months, 17 is leaps and bounds more manageable than 22 games.
You seem to be arguing a complete cancellation of the season, a discussion I have never been a part of. Safety? Once again, never contributed to that discussion around safety.
You said there was no logic in 17... but there is heaps. They might not play again, in which it doesn't make a difference, except a very logical attempt to fit in a season of football.
Looking forward to another dribbling, confused reply... happy to explain it for you again and again. I have a lot more time on my hands now.
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Yes.I agree. I only hope Eddie McG and his mates, who push TV dollars above everything (sneakily by pedaling dodgy but reasonably sounding arguments in his breakfast show) doesn’t get his way by creating some ridiculous ‘Final 10’ for an extended finals series.
It probably won’t happen anyway so it’s all academic.
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This is a very good, well thought out post.takeaway wrote: ↑Tue 24 Mar 2020 8:53amAgree, it seems straightforward to me that 17 rounds was a sensible and well considered decision at the time. The fact that only one round has been played has no relevance to the 22 to 17 argument - except the AFL is in a much better position to complete 16 rounds rather than 21, if the opportunity arises, much more flexibility. A completed season does not look very likely at present, but at least the decision gives it the best chance.Spinner wrote: ↑Tue 24 Mar 2020 7:55amWow. Some of the most incoherent dribble I've ever read.skeptic wrote: ↑Mon 23 Mar 2020 12:50pmThe logic makes no sense because if 17 games can go ahead there’s no reason why more couldn’tSpinner wrote: ↑Mon 23 Mar 2020 11:37amskeptic wrote: ↑Mon 23 Mar 2020 8:36amYou’ve clearly backed yourself into a corner here haven’t you arguing that a plan that failed dismally is better than then plan that should have immediately and did eventually go ahead.Spinner wrote: ↑Mon 23 Mar 2020 8:32amskeptic wrote: ↑Mon 23 Mar 2020 7:33amYou’re still going with this?Spinner wrote: ↑Mon 23 Mar 2020 3:16am17 games increases the likelihood of a completed season.skeptic wrote: ↑Sun 22 Mar 2020 3:57pmApparently 17 is the safe numberSecret Kiel wrote: ↑Sun 22 Mar 2020 3:51pm Only 2 more games to go before the seaon is postponed and the AFL can start making decisions based on health and safety.
Surely you're smart enough to understand 17 is less than 22? And 17 allows all teams to play each other.
Maybe not...
How did it work out?
Did the idiotic plan not last one round and then they went to one of the suggestions that clearly made more sense.
You’re not much of a lateral thinker are you
How many games left to hopefully have a completed season?
It was a matter of when not if the game got paused. Seems like you just prefer no plan at all.
Better than a no thinker.
The argument from the get go was making plans that didn’t make sense... that we’re definitely going to fail because they were ill thought out
You’re now conceding this point
This trying to save face is now becoming pathetic.
You played the man, you were sat down.. own it and move on
This is hilarious that you think that. Very amusing.
As said from the start, the logic behind a 17 game season makes sense, because 17 is less than 22. This is now the fourth time someone has had to explain this basic math to you. Do I need to go into how many weeks there are in a year?
No one played the man. You just offended because someone called out a stupid post.
It’s not safer, it’s no more practical... it’s not less of a burden.
And it didn’t work out.
It was illogical and it has been found out to be so
There is no rationale argument that a 17 round season was more likely to go ahead then a 22 game one.
It’s either unsafe or it’s not.
It wasn’t
And it’s clear you’re on your own here even though you’ve conceded every other point like it was never safe
And it didn’t work
Keep swearing it was a good idea though (despite the fact that it went against all relevant logic)...
Better hey 17 is less than 22 right
Well 1 is less than 17 and 0 is less than that
What do you think was the safest
I'll give another go given you find this concept difficult to understand... Given they are on pause for two months, 17 is leaps and bounds more manageable than 22 games.
You seem to be arguing a complete cancellation of the season, a discussion I have never been a part of. Safety? Once again, never contributed to that discussion around safety.
You said there was no logic in 17... but there is heaps. They might not play again, in which it doesn't make a difference, except a very logical attempt to fit in a season of football.
Looking forward to another dribbling, confused reply... happy to explain it for you again and again. I have a lot more time on my hands now.