Reasons for optimism in 2020: St Kilda - Max King
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Reasons for optimism in 2020: St Kilda - Max King
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ST KILDA - MAX KING
In a perfect world, St Kilda’s Max King remains injury-free and anchors the Saints’ forward line for years to come. Sure, that’s a lot of pressure for a teenager who’s yet to play a senior game of AFL football, but this time of the year is all about dreaming, and that’s what King’s talent has inspired in Saints’ fans.
St Kilda were treated to a glorious era of Nick Riewoldt, who’s consistency and work rate should hopefully set the template for future Saints forwards, especially for King, who the Saints took with the #4 pick in the 2018 draft, and who’s flashed his brilliance at VFL and now pre-season level.
The Saints love King’s size and versatility and have gone a step further by giving him Riewoldt's famous number 12 guernsey.
St Kilda has been very aggressive at the trade table in recent years and now has a midfield in place which should give them plenty of inside and outside play. Having a target like King up forward may well be the difference between breaking their eight-season Finals drought, and another September holiday.
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ST KILDA - MAX KING
In a perfect world, St Kilda’s Max King remains injury-free and anchors the Saints’ forward line for years to come. Sure, that’s a lot of pressure for a teenager who’s yet to play a senior game of AFL football, but this time of the year is all about dreaming, and that’s what King’s talent has inspired in Saints’ fans.
St Kilda were treated to a glorious era of Nick Riewoldt, who’s consistency and work rate should hopefully set the template for future Saints forwards, especially for King, who the Saints took with the #4 pick in the 2018 draft, and who’s flashed his brilliance at VFL and now pre-season level.
The Saints love King’s size and versatility and have gone a step further by giving him Riewoldt's famous number 12 guernsey.
St Kilda has been very aggressive at the trade table in recent years and now has a midfield in place which should give them plenty of inside and outside play. Having a target like King up forward may well be the difference between breaking their eight-season Finals drought, and another September holiday.
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Re: Reasons for optimism in 2020: St Kilda - Max King
King is very raw and unfortunately not the fast developing type like Roo was.
His tank is good and he attracts opponents to him which frees up Lonie Gresh and Skunk.
His stand out years will begin from 2022
His tank is good and he attracts opponents to him which frees up Lonie Gresh and Skunk.
His stand out years will begin from 2022
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Re: Reasons for optimism in 2020: St Kilda - Max King
Agree that in 2020 King will be useful, but he will be no where near as good this year as he will be in several years time.
In the competitions he played in before he was drafted by the Saints big forwards do no have to contend with much body work and against the Hawks you could see he was all at sea in this regard.
With games he will get better. But he also needs more strength and bulk.
I thought against the Hawks he looked much better when in space and so for the this season I hope to see him use more up the ground as say a HF rather than at FF where the FB's will monster him for a bit yet.
In the competitions he played in before he was drafted by the Saints big forwards do no have to contend with much body work and against the Hawks you could see he was all at sea in this regard.
With games he will get better. But he also needs more strength and bulk.
I thought against the Hawks he looked much better when in space and so for the this season I hope to see him use more up the ground as say a HF rather than at FF where the FB's will monster him for a bit yet.
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Re: Reasons for optimism in 2020: St Kilda - Max King
So after one game against men have seen enough to confidently say he will be a walk up start for round 1.
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Re: Reasons for optimism in 2020: St Kilda - Max King
Don't know if he is yet. Wait and see is best policy at the moment.Secret Kiel wrote: ↑Fri 21 Feb 2020 5:26pm So after one game against men have seen enough to confidently say he will be a walk up start for round 1.
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Re: Reasons for optimism in 2020: St Kilda - Max King
ThissaintsRrising wrote: ↑Fri 21 Feb 2020 5:17pm Agree that in 2020 King will be useful, but he will be no where near as good this year as he will be in several years. he looked much better when in space and so for the this season I hope to see him use more up the ground as say a HF rather than at FF where the FB's will monster him for a bit yet.
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Re: Reasons for optimism in 2020: St Kilda - Max King
Aside from plahimg for St Kilda amd wearing no. 12 - he is a completely different player to Riewoldt.
Entirely different.
Entirely different.
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Re: Reasons for optimism in 2020: St Kilda - Max King
yeah, he's tallerBarryGrogan wrote: ↑Fri 21 Feb 2020 8:11pm Aside from plahimg for St Kilda amd wearing no. 12 - he is a completely different player to Riewoldt.
Entirely different.
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Re: Reasons for optimism in 2020: St Kilda - Max King
Riewoldt was a Half Forward Flanker.The Fireman wrote: ↑Fri 21 Feb 2020 8:30pmyeah, he's tallerBarryGrogan wrote: ↑Fri 21 Feb 2020 8:11pm Aside from plahimg for St Kilda amd wearing no. 12 - he is a completely different player to Riewoldt.
Entirely different.
He was just So good at it amd so talented and gifted that he drew the attenation of a KPP.
Both from his own team and the opposition.
King is an entirely different player. Completely different in almost every way.
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Re: Reasons for optimism in 2020: St Kilda - Max King
Have you watched him play before last night?BarryGrogan wrote: ↑Fri 21 Feb 2020 9:05pmRiewoldt was a Half Forward Flanker.The Fireman wrote: ↑Fri 21 Feb 2020 8:30pmyeah, he's tallerBarryGrogan wrote: ↑Fri 21 Feb 2020 8:11pm Aside from plahimg for St Kilda amd wearing no. 12 - he is a completely different player to Riewoldt.
Entirely different.
He was just So good at it amd so talented and gifted that he drew the attenation of a KPP.
Both from his own team and the opposition.
King is an entirely different player. Completely different in almost every way.
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Re: Reasons for optimism in 2020: St Kilda - Max King
yeah he is different that he is taller and a better kick than Roo.. but the marking and running seems the same. Completely different in almost every way ????BarryGrogan wrote: ↑Fri 21 Feb 2020 9:05pmRiewoldt was a Half Forward Flanker.The Fireman wrote: ↑Fri 21 Feb 2020 8:30pmyeah, he's tallerBarryGrogan wrote: ↑Fri 21 Feb 2020 8:11pm Aside from plahimg for St Kilda amd wearing no. 12 - he is a completely different player to Riewoldt.
Entirely different.
He was just So good at it amd so talented and gifted that he drew the attenation of a KPP.
Both from his own team and the opposition.
King is an entirely different player. Completely different in almost every way.
anyway still early doors but a rather unusual call from you Barry.
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Re: Reasons for optimism in 2020: St Kilda - Max King
Yes, saw them both at school.Secret Kiel wrote: ↑Fri 21 Feb 2020 10:05pmHave you watched him play before last night?BarryGrogan wrote: ↑Fri 21 Feb 2020 9:05pmRiewoldt was a Half Forward Flanker.The Fireman wrote: ↑Fri 21 Feb 2020 8:30pmyeah, he's tallerBarryGrogan wrote: ↑Fri 21 Feb 2020 8:11pm Aside from plahimg for St Kilda amd wearing no. 12 - he is a completely different player to Riewoldt.
Entirely different.
He was just So good at it amd so talented and gifted that he drew the attenation of a KPP.
Both from his own team and the opposition.
King is an entirely different player. Completely different in almost every way.
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Re: Reasons for optimism in 2020: St Kilda - Max King
?The Fireman wrote: ↑Fri 21 Feb 2020 10:17pmyeah he is different that he is taller and a better kick than Roo.. but the marking and running seems the same. Completely different in almost every way ????BarryGrogan wrote: ↑Fri 21 Feb 2020 9:05pmRiewoldt was a Half Forward Flanker.The Fireman wrote: ↑Fri 21 Feb 2020 8:30pmyeah, he's tallerBarryGrogan wrote: ↑Fri 21 Feb 2020 8:11pm Aside from plahimg for St Kilda amd wearing no. 12 - he is a completely different player to Riewoldt.
Entirely different.
He was just So good at it amd so talented and gifted that he drew the attenation of a KPP.
Both from his own team and the opposition.
King is an entirely different player. Completely different in almost every way.
anyway still early doors but a rather unusual call from you Barry.
Have you seen King's junior footy? Comparing him to Riewoldt is unusual.
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Re: Reasons for optimism in 2020: St Kilda - Max King
You would also know the coach of thier school footy team then huh. What did you think of his last 2 school games and how he was coached in those games?BarryGrogan wrote: ↑Fri 21 Feb 2020 10:53pmYes, saw them both at school.Secret Kiel wrote: ↑Fri 21 Feb 2020 10:05pmHave you watched him play before last night?BarryGrogan wrote: ↑Fri 21 Feb 2020 9:05pmRiewoldt was a Half Forward Flanker.The Fireman wrote: ↑Fri 21 Feb 2020 8:30pmyeah, he's tallerBarryGrogan wrote: ↑Fri 21 Feb 2020 8:11pm Aside from plahimg for St Kilda amd wearing no. 12 - he is a completely different player to Riewoldt.
Entirely different.
He was just So good at it amd so talented and gifted that he drew the attenation of a KPP.
Both from his own team and the opposition.
King is an entirely different player. Completely different in almost every way.
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Re: Reasons for optimism in 2020: St Kilda - Max King
??? I'm talking about now...BarryGrogan wrote: ↑Fri 21 Feb 2020 10:56pm?The Fireman wrote: ↑Fri 21 Feb 2020 10:17pmyeah he is different that he is taller and a better kick than Roo.. but the marking and running seems the same. Completely different in almost every way ????BarryGrogan wrote: ↑Fri 21 Feb 2020 9:05pmRiewoldt was a Half Forward Flanker.The Fireman wrote: ↑Fri 21 Feb 2020 8:30pmyeah, he's tallerBarryGrogan wrote: ↑Fri 21 Feb 2020 8:11pm Aside from plahimg for St Kilda amd wearing no. 12 - he is a completely different player to Riewoldt.
Entirely different.
He was just So good at it amd so talented and gifted that he drew the attenation of a KPP.
Both from his own team and the opposition.
King is an entirely different player. Completely different in almost every way.
anyway still early doors but a rather unusual call from you Barry.
Have you seen King's junior footy? Comparing him to Riewoldt is unusual.
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Re: Reasons for optimism in 2020: St Kilda - Max King
He played nothing like Riewoldt on Thursday.The Fireman wrote: ↑Sat 22 Feb 2020 7:56am??? I'm talking about now...BarryGrogan wrote: ↑Fri 21 Feb 2020 10:56pm?The Fireman wrote: ↑Fri 21 Feb 2020 10:17pmyeah he is different that he is taller and a better kick than Roo.. but the marking and running seems the same. Completely different in almost every way ????BarryGrogan wrote: ↑Fri 21 Feb 2020 9:05pmRiewoldt was a Half Forward Flanker.The Fireman wrote: ↑Fri 21 Feb 2020 8:30pmyeah, he's tallerBarryGrogan wrote: ↑Fri 21 Feb 2020 8:11pm Aside from plahimg for St Kilda amd wearing no. 12 - he is a completely different player to Riewoldt.
Entirely different.
He was just So good at it amd so talented and gifted that he drew the attenation of a KPP.
Both from his own team and the opposition.
King is an entirely different player. Completely different in almost every way.
anyway still early doors but a rather unusual call from you Barry.
Have you seen King's junior footy? Comparing him to Riewoldt is unusual.
Played nothing like him last year in the 2s either.
If anyone wants comparisons (don't know why people possess over them to be honest) he's playing more like Kosi than Roo.
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Re: Reasons for optimism in 2020: St Kilda - Max King
well I think he has all the attributes that Roo had and I think the word you are looking for is "obsess" which I'm not, simply replying to your outlandish comment that he is totally different to Roo.BarryGrogan wrote: ↑Sat 22 Feb 2020 6:43pm
He played nothing like Riewoldt on Thursday.
Played nothing like him last year in the 2s either.
If anyone wants comparisons (don't know why people possess over them to be honest) he's playing more like Kosi than Roo.
I don't see that and of course these are early days but I already see a new roo rising.
so I don't agree with you..is that ok ?
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Re: Reasons for optimism in 2020: St Kilda - Max King
Of course it is.
But I wasn't talking about physical attributes. I said he was a totally different player.
Very different things.
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Re: Reasons for optimism in 2020: St Kilda - Max King
and I disagree with you.BarryGrogan wrote: ↑Sat 22 Feb 2020 9:50pmOf course it is.
But I wasn't talking about physical attributes. I said he was a totally different player.
Very different things.
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Re: Reasons for optimism in 2020: St Kilda - Max King
King’s best quality at this stage is his tank and ability to draw opposition players to him - only issue could be is if King can’t actually win the ball or assist teammates from gaining possession.
I’ve lowered my expectations for this season. He’ll be a bit player not a key.
I’ve lowered my expectations for this season. He’ll be a bit player not a key.
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Re: Reasons for optimism in 2020: St Kilda - Max King
hmm sounds like Roo early days and from what I've seen already my expectations remain the same, I'm confident he will improve dramatically this year.saintspremiers wrote: ↑Sun 23 Feb 2020 7:35am King’s best quality at this stage is his tank and ability to draw opposition players to him - only issue could be is if King can’t actually win the ball or assist teammates from gaining possession.
I’ve lowered my expectations for this season. He’ll be a bit player not a key.
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Re: Reasons for optimism in 2020: St Kilda - Max King
I think you're selling Roo very, very short if you think they were his best qualities.The Fireman wrote: ↑Sun 23 Feb 2020 7:55amhmm sounds like Roo early days and from what I've seen already my expectations remain the same, I'm confident he will improve dramatically this year.saintspremiers wrote: ↑Sun 23 Feb 2020 7:35am King’s best quality at this stage is his tank and ability to draw opposition players to him - only issue could be is if King can’t actually win the ball or assist teammates from gaining possession.
I’ve lowered my expectations for this season. He’ll be a bit player not a key.
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Re: Reasons for optimism in 2020: St Kilda - Max King
Be honest, how the hell can you say that Max King plays like this?The Fireman wrote: ↑Sun 23 Feb 2020 6:36amand I disagree with you.BarryGrogan wrote: ↑Sat 22 Feb 2020 9:50pmOf course it is.
But I wasn't talking about physical attributes. I said he was a totally different player.
Very different things.
https://www.saints.com.au/video/323569/ ... 9277451001
One is a 190 ish cm half forward and the other is a 203cm straight line running KPP.
Completely different.
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Re: Reasons for optimism in 2020: St Kilda - Max King
Bump.Secret Kiel wrote: ↑Sat 22 Feb 2020 7:48amYou would also know the coach of thier school footy team then huh. What did you think of his last 2 school games and how he was coached in those games?BarryGrogan wrote: ↑Fri 21 Feb 2020 10:53pmYes, saw them both at school.Secret Kiel wrote: ↑Fri 21 Feb 2020 10:05pmHave you watched him play before last night?BarryGrogan wrote: ↑Fri 21 Feb 2020 9:05pmRiewoldt was a Half Forward Flanker.The Fireman wrote: ↑Fri 21 Feb 2020 8:30pmyeah, he's tallerBarryGrogan wrote: ↑Fri 21 Feb 2020 8:11pm Aside from plahimg for St Kilda amd wearing no. 12 - he is a completely different player to Riewoldt.
Entirely different.
He was just So good at it amd so talented and gifted that he drew the attenation of a KPP.
Both from his own team and the opposition.
King is an entirely different player. Completely different in almost every way.