Will King have meaningful impact this year?
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Will King have meaningful impact this year?
I reckon not.
He will need lots of support but will still be useful.
I’ve lowered my expectations a bit. Once Ryder retires he will fire.
He will need lots of support but will still be useful.
I’ve lowered my expectations a bit. Once Ryder retires he will fire.
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Re: Will King have meaningful impact this year?
The only efffect Ryder will have on King is some cleaner ball from clearances. King will be useful and can easily see him kicking 30 goals.
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Re: Will King have meaningful impact this year?
30 goals seems like it would be a phenomenal return for what is essentially a first year player.
If he kicks 30 I would say he’s Nick Riewoldt 2
If he kicks 30 I would say he’s Nick Riewoldt 2
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Re: Will King have meaningful impact this year?
Not really if he plays every game it’s fair to think one a game at a minimum will happen.
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Re: Will King have meaningful impact this year?
I don't think KIng has the build right now to make a "meaningful impact" - not as as a key forward, anyway.
Maybe a half forward flank or roaming forward role would suit, where he can find some space, and be that tall, mobile/linking forward that we've been missing - until he builds up?
Say, 60-80 metres from goal.
Like a Tom Lynch (of Adelaide) type role - but with not as much running/roaming?
Maybe a half forward flank or roaming forward role would suit, where he can find some space, and be that tall, mobile/linking forward that we've been missing - until he builds up?
Say, 60-80 metres from goal.
Like a Tom Lynch (of Adelaide) type role - but with not as much running/roaming?
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Re: Will King have meaningful impact this year?
Isn't it always hard to know what to expect without a sample or body of work and we don't have to look too far back in the club's history to find examples of high DPs failing. The kid is a porcelain giraffe atm so he's got some work to do before he has the physique and endurance to mix it with the big boys consistently. I dont think he'll debut until after round 4 minimum.
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Re: Will King have meaningful impact this year?
His brother has played full forward.samoht wrote: ↑Fri 24 Jan 2020 9:48am I don't think KIng has the build right now to make a "meaningful impact" - not as as a key forward, anyway.
Maybe a half forward flank or roaming forward role would suit, where he can find some space, and be that tall, mobile/linking forward that we've been missing - until he builds up?
Say, 60-80 metres from goal.
Like a Tom Lynch (of Adelaide) type role - but with not as much running/roaming?
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Re: Will King have meaningful impact this year?
Theoretically he should go better than his brother so should play at least 10 games and kick 15 goals.
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Re: Will King have meaningful impact this year?
Good point ... I'm guessing and speculating on where he might be better suited right now, based on his build.saynta wrote: ↑Fri 24 Jan 2020 10:39amHis brother has played full forward.samoht wrote: ↑Fri 24 Jan 2020 9:48am I don't think KIng has the build right now to make a "meaningful impact" - not as as a key forward, anyway.
Maybe a half forward flank or roaming forward role would suit, where he can find some space, and be that tall, mobile/linking forward that we've been missing - until he builds up?
Say, 60-80 metres from goal.
Like a Tom Lynch (of Adelaide) type role - but with not as much running/roaming?
And, there might be games where we end up with a more open forward line ... which would suit him.
But, for all I know, he and his brother could be your classical strong, wiry types - that can handle a key position and can punch well above their weight right now.
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Re: Will King have meaningful impact this year?
I reckon King will be in the top 5 for contested marks this year and kick 35 goals. If his knee holds up.
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Re: Will King have meaningful impact this year?
That's about what I expect as well, Ratten has already stated that he is going to get as many games into MK as possible.Nick_BlueNRG wrote: ↑Fri 24 Jan 2020 2:27pm I reckon King will be in the top 5 for contested marks this year and kick 35 goals. If his knee holds up.
I rate him in the same category as Nick Riewoldt and Justin Koschitzke when they started out in 2001, except that he will debut in what will ostensibly be his 2nd year at the club. Like Roo and Kosi, I believe MK will very soon show his class and if he can stay fit will play a lot of games and kick many goals.
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Re: Will King have meaningful impact this year?
If he doesn't kick at least one bag of 5 in his first year - I'd be disappointed.
The natural lack of consistency from a young key forward, and mediocre midfield delivery will dictate his season's stats largely though.
The natural lack of consistency from a young key forward, and mediocre midfield delivery will dictate his season's stats largely though.
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Re: Will King have meaningful impact this year?
" mediocre midfield delivery'BarryGrogan wrote: ↑Fri 24 Jan 2020 4:25pm If he doesn't kick at least one bag of 5 in his first year - I'd be disappointed.
The natural lack of consistency from a young key forward, and mediocre midfield delivery will dictate his season's stats largely though.
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Re: Will King have meaningful impact this year?
No, not really.
More 'follower' than 'supporter'.
And to be honest, if being a supporter means lying about the abilities of the players, and failure to observe the performances of the team objectively - then I'm happy to leave that up to the deadshit losers out there.
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Re: Will King have meaningful impact this year?
Im guessing 15 games and if he kicks 20 goals then that's probably a good result considering he hasnt played a game. We cant put too much pressure on him just yet..
Lot's of fwd line crumbing drills at the open training session on Wednesday so creating a contest, bringing the ball to ground and not being outmarked are probably his priorities atm..
Lot's of fwd line crumbing drills at the open training session on Wednesday so creating a contest, bringing the ball to ground and not being outmarked are probably his priorities atm..
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Re: Will King have meaningful impact this year?
Not part of the supporter base hey? The type that does not turn up. Lol.BarryGrogan wrote: ↑Fri 24 Jan 2020 5:42pmNo, not really.
More 'follower' than 'supporter'.
And to be honest, if being a supporter means lying about the abilities of the players, and failure to observe the performances of the team objectively - then I'm happy to leave that up to the deadshit losers out there.
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Re: Will King have meaningful impact this year?
Agreed. Reckon people’s expectations are way too highrealdeal wrote: ↑Fri 24 Jan 2020 7:01pm Im guessing 15 games and if he kicks 20 goals then that's probably a good result considering he hasnt played a game. We cant put too much pressure on him just yet..
Lot's of fwd line crumbing drills at the open training session on Wednesday so creating a contest, bringing the ball to ground and not being outmarked are probably his priorities atm..
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Re: Will King have meaningful impact this year?
I've been to about 5 AFL games in the last 10 years. Probably 3 if them were Saints games.CQ SAINT wrote: ↑Fri 24 Jan 2020 7:14pmNot part of the supporter base hey? The type that does not turn up. Lol.BarryGrogan wrote: ↑Fri 24 Jan 2020 5:42pmNo, not really.
More 'follower' than 'supporter'.
And to be honest, if being a supporter means lying about the abilities of the players, and failure to observe the performances of the team objectively - then I'm happy to leave that up to the deadshit losers out there.
To put that in context - I've been to 2 MLB games and an NBA game in that time.
So yeah, fair to say I don't turn up. Like most Saints fans - I have better s*** to do with my life.
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Re: Will King have meaningful impact this year?
I see that.BarryGrogan wrote: ↑Fri 24 Jan 2020 7:29pmI've been to about 5 AFL games in the last 10 years. Probably 3 if them were Saints games.CQ SAINT wrote: ↑Fri 24 Jan 2020 7:14pmNot part of the supporter base hey? The type that does not turn up. Lol.BarryGrogan wrote: ↑Fri 24 Jan 2020 5:42pmNo, not really.
More 'follower' than 'supporter'.
And to be honest, if being a supporter means lying about the abilities of the players, and failure to observe the performances of the team objectively - then I'm happy to leave that up to the deadshit losers out there.
To put that in context - I've been to 2 MLB games and an NBA game in that time.
So yeah, fair to say I don't turn up. Like most Saints fans - I have better s*** to do with my life.
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Re: Will King have meaningful impact this year?
?CQ SAINT wrote: ↑Fri 24 Jan 2020 7:44pmI see that.BarryGrogan wrote: ↑Fri 24 Jan 2020 7:29pmI've been to about 5 AFL games in the last 10 years. Probably 3 if them were Saints games.CQ SAINT wrote: ↑Fri 24 Jan 2020 7:14pmNot part of the supporter base hey? The type that does not turn up. Lol.BarryGrogan wrote: ↑Fri 24 Jan 2020 5:42pmNo, not really.
More 'follower' than 'supporter'.
And to be honest, if being a supporter means lying about the abilities of the players, and failure to observe the performances of the team objectively - then I'm happy to leave that up to the deadshit losers out there.
To put that in context - I've been to 2 MLB games and an NBA game in that time.
So yeah, fair to say I don't turn up. Like most Saints fans - I have better s*** to do with my life.
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Re: Will King have meaningful impact this year?
No. I suppose you wouldn't. Then, I'm one of those tragics, who buys 6 memberships, plans flights, arranges weekends, accommodation and rental cars to get to 4 or 5 games a year from.1800 klicks away.BarryGrogan wrote: ↑Fri 24 Jan 2020 7:48pm?CQ SAINT wrote: ↑Fri 24 Jan 2020 7:44pmI see that.BarryGrogan wrote: ↑Fri 24 Jan 2020 7:29pmI've been to about 5 AFL games in the last 10 years. Probably 3 if them were Saints games.CQ SAINT wrote: ↑Fri 24 Jan 2020 7:14pmNot part of the supporter base hey? The type that does not turn up. Lol.BarryGrogan wrote: ↑Fri 24 Jan 2020 5:42pmNo, not really.
More 'follower' than 'supporter'.
And to be honest, if being a supporter means lying about the abilities of the players, and failure to observe the performances of the team objectively - then I'm happy to leave that up to the deadshit losers out there.
To put that in context - I've been to 2 MLB games and an NBA game in that time.
So yeah, fair to say I don't turn up. Like most Saints fans - I have better s*** to do with my life.
Not sure what you mean?@
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Re: Will King have meaningful impact this year?
If he can remain injury free he will scare a lot of defences...
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Re: Will King have meaningful impact this year?
If he can remain injury free he will scare a lot of defences...
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Re: Will King have meaningful impact this year?
If he can remain injury free he will scare a lot of defences...
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If he can remain injury free he will scare a lot of defences...