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Re: Ben Crocker
No have no need for him. Need midfielders
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Re: Ben Crocker
Why draft him when we can take him as a DFA and give hi just a 1 year contract?
Or as a rookie
Would make no sense to draft him
Or as a rookie
Would make no sense to draft him
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Re: Ben Crocker
Because Adelaide and Carlton are interested as well.SuperDuper wrote: ↑Thu 28 Nov 2019 7:16pm Why draft him when we can take him as a DFA and give hi just a 1 year contract?
Or as a rookie
Would make no sense to draft him
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Re: Ben Crocker
While I agree with you a bit, I think we don't just need midfielders, we need ELITE midfielders. Can we get that at pick 51 or so? Probably not. Get the next need.
If true, and we are after Crocker, our list management obviously see deficiencies in our small forward depth. I didn't think we needed Butler, but that seems to be what they are after.
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Re: Ben Crocker
then why didnt we take him last week as a DFA?jaxons wrote: ↑Thu 28 Nov 2019 7:31pmBecause Adelaide and Carlton are interested as well.SuperDuper wrote: ↑Thu 28 Nov 2019 7:16pm Why draft him when we can take him as a DFA and give hi just a 1 year contract?
Or as a rookie
Would make no sense to draft him
And havent Carlton and Adelaide have already picked their fill of players this draft?
Carlton need their rookie pick for Martin and we pick before Adelaide
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Re: Ben Crocker
I believe we have to take three players tonight. So couldn’t pick up another DFA without delisting someone.SuperDuper wrote:then why didnt we take him last week as a DFA?jaxons wrote: ↑Thu 28 Nov 2019 7:31pmBecause Adelaide and Carlton are interested as well.SuperDuper wrote: ↑Thu 28 Nov 2019 7:16pm Why draft him when we can take him as a DFA and give hi just a 1 year contract?
Or as a rookie
Would make no sense to draft him
And havent Carlton and Adelaide have already picked their fill of players this draft?
Carlton need their rookie pick for Martin and we pick before Adelaide
I just hope we are considering him because he is the best available at our pick, not because someone else wants him.
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Re: Ben Crocker
we only took 2?kosifantutti wrote: ↑Thu 28 Nov 2019 8:35pmI believe we have to take three players tonight. So couldn’t pick up another DFA without delisting someone.SuperDuper wrote:then why didnt we take him last week as a DFA?jaxons wrote: ↑Thu 28 Nov 2019 7:31pmBecause Adelaide and Carlton are interested as well.SuperDuper wrote: ↑Thu 28 Nov 2019 7:16pm Why draft him when we can take him as a DFA and give hi just a 1 year contract?
Or as a rookie
Would make no sense to draft him
And havent Carlton and Adelaide have already picked their fill of players this draft?
Carlton need their rookie pick for Martin and we pick before Adelaide
I just hope we are considering him because he is the best available at our pick, not because someone else wants him.
plus overall 65 picks is that a low amount compared to past drafts??
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Re: Ben Crocker
Jaxons
seems a low number 65 for the National draft...........
also we only took 2........was that the plan going in
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Re: Ben Crocker
rookying hin would make sense ... compared to drafting
thought we may look at Partington... same age but seems to be playing better at the lower level?
thought we may look at Partington... same age but seems to be playing better at the lower level?
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Re: Ben Crocker
Nah. We needed a young developing ruckman and that's what we got.
Cocker would have been anchored at Sandy.
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Re: Ben Crocker
He met with us 3 times and Ratts really liked him.
Was every chance but no guarantees when it comes to draft.
We knew both Carlton and Adelaide like him too.
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Re: Ben Crocker
But Jaxons, did you speak to his parents and were they on board?
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Re: Ben Crocker
By we, I hope you didn't mean the Adelaide Crows.
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Re: Ben Crocker
How could the club upgrade Joyce and include Abbott as a free agent plus 3 picks in the main draft.chook23 wrote: ↑Thu 28 Nov 2019 10:07pmwe only took 2?kosifantutti wrote: ↑Thu 28 Nov 2019 8:35pmI believe we have to take three players tonight. So couldn’t pick up another DFA without delisting someone.SuperDuper wrote:then why didnt we take him last week as a DFA?jaxons wrote: ↑Thu 28 Nov 2019 7:31pmBecause Adelaide and Carlton are interested as well.SuperDuper wrote: ↑Thu 28 Nov 2019 7:16pm Why draft him when we can take him as a DFA and give hi just a 1 year contract?
Or as a rookie
Would make no sense to draft him
And havent Carlton and Adelaide have already picked their fill of players this draft?
Carlton need their rookie pick for Martin and we pick before Adelaide
I just hope we are considering him because he is the best available at our pick, not because someone else wants him.
plus overall 65 picks is that a low amount compared to past drafts??
We had 36 after the trade period.
Upgrading Joyce was mandatory unless we sent him through the main draft = 37.
Abbott inclusion as a free agent = 38.
2 picks = 40 maximum on senior list.
The only way to have 3 picks would have been to renege on Abbott.
3 picks was only ever a fairy story from the AFL and media.
But with only one rookie upgrade we had to make at least 2 picks.
(3 picks or rookie upgrades required)
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Re: Ben Crocker
Don't understand the point about the numbers Ace - Joyce's upgrade must have counted as one of the 3 selections required at the national draft, even though rookie upgrades don't get mentioned in the press as selections.
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