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Re: Silvio Foschini
I recall someone telling me years ago that his career was ruined by Graham Gellie, his coach at the time. Not sure how true it was. The story was Foschini had a bad shoulder and Gellie was a hard arse and just kept pushing him to play when it was obvious he shouldn't have been on the park. Anyone else heard this story?
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Re: Silvio Foschini
Hard to believe that year we recruited the following players: Silvio Foschini, Tony Morwood, Max Crox. Alan Sidebottom, Mark 'Jacko' Jackson, Tony Lockett and Rod Owen. Then add in our centre half back, Trevor Barker! Quite a lineup and really unbelievable with that talent we couldn't win more than five games that season.
I remember one weekend we all got in the car and drove the 60 kilometres to Geelong for a match which was played in the rain - in torrential conditions we inexplicably turned it on against a very good side at a ground we never did any good at and were already in front by ten goals in the third quarter.
It was that game, and a match a few weeks later when we kicked 23 goals against another very good side - Fitzroy - again at an opponent's home ground - after they themselves had just kicked 35 goals against the top side North at the same venue - and beat them in a very high standard entertaining game, that showed what we could do when we were switched on.
I remember one weekend we all got in the car and drove the 60 kilometres to Geelong for a match which was played in the rain - in torrential conditions we inexplicably turned it on against a very good side at a ground we never did any good at and were already in front by ten goals in the third quarter.
It was that game, and a match a few weeks later when we kicked 23 goals against another very good side - Fitzroy - again at an opponent's home ground - after they themselves had just kicked 35 goals against the top side North at the same venue - and beat them in a very high standard entertaining game, that showed what we could do when we were switched on.
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Re: Silvio Foschini
Don't know about that but he certainly had a crook shoulder. Played in a wet suit top under his jumper in an attempt to stop it popping out.cwrcyn wrote: ↑Sun 24 Nov 2019 12:18pm I recall someone telling me years ago that his career was ruined by Graham Gellie, his coach at the time. Not sure how true it was. The story was Foschini had a bad shoulder and Gellie was a hard arse and just kept pushing him to play when it was obvious he shouldn't have been on the park. Anyone else heard this story?
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Re: Silvio Foschini
He had the shoulder problem before he came to us. It would pop out a couple of times just about every game, and he'd just pop it back in. They didn't tape everything up like they do now.
I remember talking to him in the rooms after a game against Fitzroy and he said it was no big deal. Tony Jewell was the coach at the time.
I remember talking to him in the rooms after a game against Fitzroy and he said it was no big deal. Tony Jewell was the coach at the time.
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Re: Silvio Foschini
God, he loved the celebration.
In the mid-nineties, Alex Marcou told me one night at a place called the Snake Pit that Silvio's shoulder would pop out just by turning over in bed. He couldn't take a trick.
In the mid-nineties, Alex Marcou told me one night at a place called the Snake Pit that Silvio's shoulder would pop out just by turning over in bed. He couldn't take a trick.
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Re: Silvio Foschini
We'd turned it on every 4-five weeks or so. We were poorly skilled and not well coached; we weren't a very good side.samuraisaint wrote: ↑Sun 24 Nov 2019 12:54pm Hard to believe that year we recruited the following players: Silvio Foschini, Tony Morwood, Max Crox. Alan Sidebottom, Mark 'Jacko' Jackson, Tony Lockett and Rod Owen. Then add in our centre half back, Trevor Barker! Quite a lineup and really unbelievable with that talent we couldn't win more than five games that season.
I remember one weekend we all got in the car and drove the 60 kilometres to Geelong for a match which was played in the rain - in torrential conditions we inexplicably turned it on against a very good side at a ground we never did any good at and were already in front by ten goals in the third quarter.
It was that game, and a match a few weeks later when we kicked 23 goals against another very good side - Fitzroy - again at an opponent's home ground - after they themselves had just kicked 35 goals against the top side North at the same venue - and beat them in a very high standard entertaining game, that showed what we could do when we were switched on.
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Re: Silvio Foschini
And people on here think Richo was bad. Probably the worst coach in the club's history.cwrcyn wrote: ↑Sun 24 Nov 2019 12:18pm I recall someone telling me years ago that his career was ruined by Graham Gellie, his coach at the time. Not sure how true it was. The story was Foschini had a bad shoulder and Gellie was a hard arse and just kept pushing him to play when it was obvious he shouldn't have been on the park. Anyone else heard this story?
He made Richo look like Clarko.
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Re: Silvio Foschini
If games were decided by the coaches apparent ability
How did we beat Hawthorn in 2019?
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Re: Silvio Foschini
So coaches ability decided on one game now.
It was supposed to be a joke.
Original point stands that I don't thing GG was a good coach. I heard a few stories on lame attempts to motivate the players.
It was supposed to be a joke.
Original point stands that I don't thing GG was a good coach. I heard a few stories on lame attempts to motivate the players.
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Re: Silvio Foschini
Not sure whether Gellie could coach or not?
Doubt it, he was actually thrown to the wolves.
But really,
The team was terrible, and Allan Jeans wouldn’t have done a thing with them.
Doubt it, he was actually thrown to the wolves.
But really,
The team was terrible, and Allan Jeans wouldn’t have done a thing with them.
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Re: Silvio Foschini
You're right there - but you can't deny that is an almighty list of talent to pick up in just one off season. In one of the final matches of that season we played the grand finalist of the season before and beat them by 13 goals!SaintPav wrote: ↑Mon 25 Nov 2019 4:27pmWe'd turned it on every 4-five weeks or so. We were poorly skilled and not well coached; we weren't a very good side.samuraisaint wrote: ↑Sun 24 Nov 2019 12:54pm Hard to believe that year we recruited the following players: Silvio Foschini, Tony Morwood, Max Crox. Alan Sidebottom, Mark 'Jacko' Jackson, Tony Lockett and Rod Owen. Then add in our centre half back, Trevor Barker! Quite a lineup and really unbelievable with that talent we couldn't win more than five games that season.
I remember one weekend we all got in the car and drove the 60 kilometres to Geelong for a match which was played in the rain - in torrential conditions we inexplicably turned it on against a very good side at a ground we never did any good at and were already in front by ten goals in the third quarter.
It was that game, and a match a few weeks later when we kicked 23 goals against another very good side - Fitzroy - again at an opponent's home ground - after they themselves had just kicked 35 goals against the top side North at the same venue - and beat them in a very high standard entertaining game, that showed what we could do when we were switched on.
And in another match we played the Swans at the SCG with Lockett and Jacko in the forward line and Jacko kicked ten goals!
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Re: Silvio Foschini
Foschini was a star a serious talent and I loved him. I wore his number on my back for a short time. A tragedy we didn’t see him play alongside Plugger in the late 80s he would have been a perfect ground forward roving to the great man Plugger. I had the privilege of spending quality time with Silvio last few years a real gentlemen he loves the Saints people forget he turned down Collingwood to come to us and why? He said to me” how could you turn down a guy like Trevor Barker when he asks you to come and play for his club!”
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Re: Silvio Foschini
Bit of a reality check.
It was Tony Jewell who coached us through 1983, and most of 1984.
A guy who won a Premiership with Richmond in 1980, and then ended up with us,
At Richmond, he had Michael Roach, David Cloke, Jimmy Jess, Dale Weightman, Mark Lee, Maurice Rioli, and Robbie Wiley (not to mention a pensioner in the name of Kevin Bartlett.
What did we have - an idiot by the name of Jackson, an injury plagued player like Foschini, an overweight kid by the name of Lockett, another kid by the name of Owen (injury and attitude curtailed his career), and an extremely over-rated player by the name of Paul Morwood. Let's not forget Alan (Candles) Sidebottom. Saw him Round 1 1985 against another struggling club - Sydney. Greg Williams got him late in the first quarter - we lost by close to 100 points.
I can remember 35 years ago. We had very little talent (all of Barker, Cunningham, and Burns were getting to the end of their careers, and we had precious little else except for a fat kid who was lazy (Plugger).
However from 1987 to 1989, Harvey, Burke, and Loewe, with the guiding influences of Sheldon, Marcou, and McConville, and we turned it around - first under the Doc who gave us belief, and then secondly under Sheldon who gave us System. Did Foschini and P Morwood help our kids??? probably not. Yes, I remember the victories over Sydney, Geelong, and Fitzroy (the latter I believe was 19 goals got kicked in the second quarter - an all time record). What happened after that??? Melbourne wore us down, and then the Dogs beat us from being 45 points down in the third. We gave no yelp after that for another three years. Foschini, Morwood, Owen and Sidebottom sent us back rather than leading us forward.
It was Tony Jewell who coached us through 1983, and most of 1984.
A guy who won a Premiership with Richmond in 1980, and then ended up with us,
At Richmond, he had Michael Roach, David Cloke, Jimmy Jess, Dale Weightman, Mark Lee, Maurice Rioli, and Robbie Wiley (not to mention a pensioner in the name of Kevin Bartlett.
What did we have - an idiot by the name of Jackson, an injury plagued player like Foschini, an overweight kid by the name of Lockett, another kid by the name of Owen (injury and attitude curtailed his career), and an extremely over-rated player by the name of Paul Morwood. Let's not forget Alan (Candles) Sidebottom. Saw him Round 1 1985 against another struggling club - Sydney. Greg Williams got him late in the first quarter - we lost by close to 100 points.
I can remember 35 years ago. We had very little talent (all of Barker, Cunningham, and Burns were getting to the end of their careers, and we had precious little else except for a fat kid who was lazy (Plugger).
However from 1987 to 1989, Harvey, Burke, and Loewe, with the guiding influences of Sheldon, Marcou, and McConville, and we turned it around - first under the Doc who gave us belief, and then secondly under Sheldon who gave us System. Did Foschini and P Morwood help our kids??? probably not. Yes, I remember the victories over Sydney, Geelong, and Fitzroy (the latter I believe was 19 goals got kicked in the second quarter - an all time record). What happened after that??? Melbourne wore us down, and then the Dogs beat us from being 45 points down in the third. We gave no yelp after that for another three years. Foschini, Morwood, Owen and Sidebottom sent us back rather than leading us forward.
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Re: Silvio Foschini
Oboe your recollection on players especially Plugger is offensive and down right ridiculous.
Owen was an outstanding talent as well until injuries and poor lifestyle ruined his career.
Other than Jackson the players you picked on were not the issue more like the lack of a deep list and lack of money at the club.
Plugger is the greatest player I ever saw period.
Owen was an outstanding talent as well until injuries and poor lifestyle ruined his career.
Other than Jackson the players you picked on were not the issue more like the lack of a deep list and lack of money at the club.
Plugger is the greatest player I ever saw period.
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Re: Silvio Foschini
Plus a culture around the group of pi*sing on and training poorly. I do remember going to some Essendon training sessions with mates around that time, and the attitude around their training session was very sharp and professional, yet our sessions looked like a run around the park with a few footys. A real lack of on-field leadership.oboe wrote: ↑Wed 27 Nov 2019 1:07am Bit of a reality check.
It was Tony Jewell who coached us through 1983, and most of 1984.
A guy who won a Premiership with Richmond in 1980, and then ended up with us,
At Richmond, he had Michael Roach, David Cloke, Jimmy Jess, Dale Weightman, Mark Lee, Maurice Rioli, and Robbie Wiley (not to mention a pensioner in the name of Kevin Bartlett.
What did we have - an idiot by the name of Jackson, an injury plagued player like Foschini, an overweight kid by the name of Lockett, another kid by the name of Owen (injury and attitude curtailed his career), and an extremely over-rated player by the name of Paul Morwood. Let's not forget Alan (Candles) Sidebottom. Saw him Round 1 1985 against another struggling club - Sydney. Greg Williams got him late in the first quarter - we lost by close to 100 points.
I can remember 35 years ago. We had very little talent (all of Barker, Cunningham, and Burns were getting to the end of their careers, and we had precious little else except for a fat kid who was lazy (Plugger).
However from 1987 to 1989, Harvey, Burke, and Loewe, with the guiding influences of Sheldon, Marcou, and McConville, and we turned it around - first under the Doc who gave us belief, and then secondly under Sheldon who gave us System. Did Foschini and P Morwood help our kids??? probably not. Yes, I remember the victories over Sydney, Geelong, and Fitzroy (the latter I believe was 19 goals got kicked in the second quarter - an all time record). What happened after that??? Melbourne wore us down, and then the Dogs beat us from being 45 points down in the third. We gave no yelp after that for another three years. Foschini, Morwood, Owen and Sidebottom sent us back rather than leading us forward.
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Re: Silvio Foschini
Involved at Gembrook this year helping the Under 18's.
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Re: Silvio Foschini
I remember when he was drafted, at 16 wasn’t he(?) he was a prodigy at soccer as well As Aussie rules. As good as he was to watch playing footy with his agility, pace and high marking, he would possibly have had a longer career playing the round ball game and would have still been a superstar at it!! Can I add that graham Gellie was as brilliant a rover as ever I’ve seen but a super short career dashed by injury!!!!
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Won a best and fairest in his one and only season..Simon Templar wrote: ↑Wed 27 Nov 2019 12:42pm I remember when he was drafted, at 16 wasn’t he(?) he was a prodigy at soccer as well As Aussie rules. As good as he was to watch playing footy with his agility, pace and high marking, he would possibly have had a longer career playing the round ball game and would have still been a superstar at it!! Can I add that graham Gellie was as brilliant a rover as ever I’ve seen but a super short career dashed by injury!!!!
Just another in a long line of elite saints whose careers were tragically cut short by injury.
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I remember a Tiger's game at Moorabbin when a brawl broke out early in the game, on the member's wing. The Tiger's a$$hole just grabbed Foschini by the suspect arm and yanked. Shoulder out, game over.
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I moved to Melbourne in 1988 having grown up in Adelaide barracking for another VFL/AFL team.Vazelos wrote: ↑Wed 27 Nov 2019 7:29am Oboe your recollection on players especially Plugger is offensive and down right ridiculous.
Owen was an outstanding talent as well until injuries and poor lifestyle ruined his career.
Other than Jackson the players you picked on were not the issue more like the lack of a deep list and lack of money at the club.
Plugger is the greatest player I ever saw period.
I went to a few St Kilda games in 1988 with some workmates and just loved watching Lockett.
In 1989 I chose to switch allegiances to St Kilda mainly so I could watch Plugger.
Not quite the best player I have seen, but certainly the most exciting to watch
Ironically, his decision to leave at the end of 1993 whilst breaking my heart also prompted me to sign up for a membership because I figured I wanted to stay emotionally invested with the Saints.
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