What’s the latest on Jack Steven?
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Re: What’s the latest on Jack Steven?
I see Scott also having a say in that. He is a hard task master who has great relationships with those who deliver to expectations and is ruthless with those who don't.
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Re: What’s the latest on Jack Steven?
Where did Jack say this?
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Re: What’s the latest on Jack Steven?
SMS wrote: ↑Fri 04 Oct 2019 2:31pm good. We may have a pair of balls aftwr all. mental illness ... OMG give me strength. Worst excuse ever. Steven should visit a psyche ward and see REAL mental illness. homesick/depressed about a girl is NOT f****** MENTAL ILLNESS. We give in to this we are dumb c***s.
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What a pathetic thing to say about a Saints player... or any person for that matter.
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Re: What’s the latest on Jack Steven?
Reckon the Cats will end up backing off and that Steven will remain a Saint.
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Re: What’s the latest on Jack Steven?
Either that or he’ll call it a day.
Curb your enthusiasm - you’re a St.Kilda supporter!!
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Re: What’s the latest on Jack Steven?
What happens if you cast aspersions on the character of a St Kilda player and get a one week ban.Spinner wrote: ↑Fri 04 Oct 2019 10:34pmSMS wrote: ↑Fri 04 Oct 2019 2:31pm good. We may have a pair of balls aftwr all. mental illness ... OMG give me strength. Worst excuse ever. Steven should visit a psyche ward and see REAL mental illness. homesick/depressed about a girl is NOT f****** MENTAL ILLNESS. We give in to this we are dumb c***s.
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What a pathetic thing to say about a Saints player... or any person for that matter.
But before the end of the week he has walked to another club ceasing to be a St Kilda player.
Now if you get reinstated can you repeat those aspersions without getting banned again.
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Re: What’s the latest on Jack Steven?
So Jack retires
St Kilda is forced to drop off the list to activate a draft pick.
Jack nominates for the draft.
No club other than Geelong will touch him like happened with Luke Ball.
St Kilda gets nothing for him.
St Kilda is forced to drop off the list to activate a draft pick.
Jack nominates for the draft.
No club other than Geelong will touch him like happened with Luke Ball.
St Kilda gets nothing for him.
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Re: What’s the latest on Jack Steven?
So we tell him or his manager that if he retires he will remain on our list as a contracted player.
It then becomes a matter of bluff and who hold# their nerve.
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Re: What’s the latest on Jack Steven?
I personally think those two options are the most likely (purely my opinion only).
There was a brief mention of Jack in the HS today saying that the Saints and Cats were a long way apart in a trade increasing the chances of him staying with StKilda. I'd be quite comfortable with that.
Opinions are like arseholes, everybody's got one.
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Re: What’s the latest on Jack Steven?
think it will get done but Geelong always want something for nothing.
Look when Dangerfield wanted to come it was great he wanted to come home, now Kelly wants to go home and they want to play hardball.
becoming the biggest sooks in the AFL
Look when Dangerfield wanted to come it was great he wanted to come home, now Kelly wants to go home and they want to play hardball.
becoming the biggest sooks in the AFL
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Re: What’s the latest on Jack Steven?
Always wereolder saint wrote: ↑Sun 06 Oct 2019 11:53am think it will get done but Geelong always want something for nothing.
Look when Dangerfield wanted to come it was great he wanted to come home, now Kelly wants to go home and they want to play hardball.
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Re: What’s the latest on Jack Steven?
Let him retire and nominate for the draft, Geelong will pick him up and offer him 400klongtimesaint wrote: ↑Sat 05 Oct 2019 4:01pmSo we tell him or his manager that if he retires he will remain on our list as a contracted player.
It then becomes a matter of bluff and who hold# their nerve.
which would mean he’d lose somewhere around 400k.
Trust me he won’t take that option.
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Re: What’s the latest on Jack Steven?
He can’t nominate for the draft I& he is still contracted and on our list.saintbob wrote: ↑Sun 06 Oct 2019 1:33pmLet him retire and nominate for the draft, Geelong will pick him up and offer him 400klongtimesaint wrote: ↑Sat 05 Oct 2019 4:01pmSo we tell him or his manager that if he retires he will remain on our list as a contracted player.
It then becomes a matter of bluff and who hold# their nerve.
which would mean he’d lose somewhere around 400k.
Trust me he won’t take that option.
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Re: What’s the latest on Jack Steven?
Im really not fazed if the club stands its ground on this and forces him to retire, if he decides he wont play for us.longtimesaint wrote: ↑Sun 06 Oct 2019 2:24pmHe can’t nominate for the draft I& he is still contracted and on our list.saintbob wrote: ↑Sun 06 Oct 2019 1:33pmLet him retire and nominate for the draft, Geelong will pick him up and offer him 400klongtimesaint wrote: ↑Sat 05 Oct 2019 4:01pmSo we tell him or his manager that if he retires he will remain on our list as a contracted player.
It then becomes a matter of bluff and who hold# their nerve.
which would mean he’d lose somewhere around 400k.
Trust me he won’t take that option.
I know a little bit about Jacks problems and Im not that sympathetic. He's caused a lot of his own mess. While I wish him well in any mental health issues, he's also a grown man and needs to take responsibility for his own actions.
The players have way to much say in their movements IMO. NBA teams send players where they want. Don't like it, too bad! Dont get the mega salary and play in the lower leagues wherever you want.
I'd fully expect GC to play hardball with BKing if he does decide to move. So they should, even if it is to our detriment. Clubs need to take some of the power back as players are controlling it too much.
I applaud Geelong for taking such a hard stance on Kelly.
Clubs spend mega $$$ on player development only to loose them on a whim. Unless we're talking family illness, or cant get a game etc, no problem, that I understand. Wanting to move because of homesickness, girlfriends etc should be treated more harshly. We're only talking 5-10 years of their lives here. The money they make is ample remuneration for the sacrfice they make on a personal level.
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Re: What’s the latest on Jack Steven?
I read somewhere that we might end up paying some of his salary? Surely not under any circumstance.
If he wants to go ...thanks see ya later.
Put effort into players that want to be at StKFC
If he wants to go ...thanks see ya later.
Put effort into players that want to be at StKFC
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Re: What’s the latest on Jack Steven?
yeah bugger any deal that sees us pay part of his salary. his call to leave, let him, but he can't have his cake and eat it too.
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Re: What’s the latest on Jack Steven?
Entirely. 10000000000%. The indignity in having to settle for pick 57 could only be compounded by having to pay his wage too. I’d rather he sit out on full salary than have to pay a single dollar towards him helping the Cats contend again; let alone go deep into a finals series.desertsaint wrote: ↑Sun 06 Oct 2019 9:51pm yeah bugger any deal that sees us pay part of his salary. his call to leave, let him, but he can't have his cake and eat it too.
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Re: What’s the latest on Jack Steven?
We had pick 28 on the table for Luke ... then Ross’ ego took over. Got zilch.
This time - we have pick 57. It’s the same as no pick anyway. Jack can sit out for all I care if that’s the deal
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Re: What’s the latest on Jack Steven?
Might do after Kelly move.DJ Higgins wrote: ↑Wed 02 Oct 2019 2:42pm Paper says that we won't release him for anything less than a pick in the twenties. That is what I like to here but cats don't have a pick in the twenties
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Re: What’s the latest on Jack Steven?
Ross was 24th with 14 votes. Jack had 11 votes (couldn't find s total vote tally list).
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Re: What’s the latest on Jack Steven?
Waiting wrote: ↑Thu 03 Oct 2019 10:41pm Amazing. Steven was 8th in the Brownlow just one year ago (2018). So, just one back - he was a top 10 AFL player.
How can he be traded for anything less than a first round selection, just one year later?
When fit again (acknowledging issues in 2019), he is a STAR.
Yep ahead of Dangerfield and 1 behind Martin. Mitchell blitzed them all.
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Re: What’s the latest on Jack Steven?
if he wants to be with family we can help him
How much would it cost to fly him from Moorabbin airport several times a week? It can be done can't it.... if he still wants to be a St Kilda player that is
if he wants to play for Geelong and doesn't care what happens with the St K FC, then that is a different matter
How much would it cost to fly him from Moorabbin airport several times a week? It can be done can't it.... if he still wants to be a St Kilda player that is
if he wants to play for Geelong and doesn't care what happens with the St K FC, then that is a different matter
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Re: What’s the latest on Jack Steven?
" With the Saints now expecting to receive a second-round selection, it is understood both parties are on the same page in the Saints paying a portion of his wage for 2020."
Supposedly pick 33
Watch him tear us a new A-hole in 2020 while we pay for the privilege.
Why on earth are we even entertaining paying his wage ?
Supposedly pick 33
Watch him tear us a new A-hole in 2020 while we pay for the privilege.
Why on earth are we even entertaining paying his wage ?