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Battle forward
Josh Battle has been quite a success as a back. But I think he'd be a success anywhere so I wasn't suprised that he could adapt to defence.
But key forwards are far rarer to find. He is one in the making.
We are desperate for people who can reliably kick goals. He has shown himself to be an accurate kick. You don't have to be super tall to be a success. Tim Membrey is a great example of a 'tall' who is just 188cm. I think it's more about structure and the ability to be mobile. Brett Ratten has indicated a need for greater accountability with our disposals. And especially with our accuracy in front of goal. With the addition of Ben King we have sufficient height (and marking ability). Josh Battle to the forward line is a no-brainer.
But key forwards are far rarer to find. He is one in the making.
We are desperate for people who can reliably kick goals. He has shown himself to be an accurate kick. You don't have to be super tall to be a success. Tim Membrey is a great example of a 'tall' who is just 188cm. I think it's more about structure and the ability to be mobile. Brett Ratten has indicated a need for greater accountability with our disposals. And especially with our accuracy in front of goal. With the addition of Ben King we have sufficient height (and marking ability). Josh Battle to the forward line is a no-brainer.
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Re: Battle forward
While I'd be inclined to leave him in the backline as he has found his position, I think he could be a weapon that we could use in the forward line on occasion and when the need (eg if permanent key forwards are struggling) or opportunity (eg to exploit a mismatch and/or float down to take advantage of a slack checking forward) arose.
He appears to have the required skills and tools to be able to do this effectively (eg kicking for goal, marking, gut running and tank, ability to read the play and judge the ball etc).
He appears to have the required skills and tools to be able to do this effectively (eg kicking for goal, marking, gut running and tank, ability to read the play and judge the ball etc).
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Re: Battle forward
I'm still amazed that he wasn't picked earlier in the draft,
he was pick #39.
We're incredibly lucky that he was still there when we had our 2nd pick.
He only went to defence to fill a big gap, Robbo being injured and Hugh Goddard not coming on as expected.
he was pick #39.
We're incredibly lucky that he was still there when we had our 2nd pick.
He only went to defence to fill a big gap, Robbo being injured and Hugh Goddard not coming on as expected.
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Re: Battle forward
I hope Ratts has a look at him up forward over the summer and makes up his own mind.
I do seem to remember him being a bit of a dead eye , and it sure would be nice to convert more of our shots on goal.
I do seem to remember him being a bit of a dead eye , and it sure would be nice to convert more of our shots on goal.
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Re: Battle forward
If we are going to move Marshall from a position he played well in, we may as well do the same with Battle?
While we’re at it, move Jack Steele off the oppositions best, move Dunstan out of the centre square and Billings from the wing to somewhere else?
While we’re at it, move Jack Steele off the oppositions best, move Dunstan out of the centre square and Billings from the wing to somewhere else?
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Re: Battle forward
It depends a bit on what happens with Josh Bruce and also how quickly Max King comes on.
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Re: Battle forward
Another reason to offload Bruce... so we can move Battle from a position he has done well at... good logic.
Battle plays forward a lot more like Membrey anyway... a hard leading mid size... not really a pack buster
Battle plays forward a lot more like Membrey anyway... a hard leading mid size... not really a pack buster
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Re: Battle forward
Point is, if Bruce goes we’ll need to revamp the forward line somewhat. If that happens - and it may - I can see a place for Battle up forward.
Personally, I’d keep Bruce as a versatile big guy who can play back, forward and second ruck. I’m not convinced he should be our main target inside 50 though.
Long bombs to Joshy don’t seem to get it done.
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Re: Battle forward
I'd certainly be loathe to move Marshall away from being an onballer, and agree with your thoughts on 'Iron Grip' Jack.
But I like a side that has flexibility. It can help players break tags, as well as making us less predictable.
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Re: Battle forward
Bump.DownAtTheJunction wrote: ↑Thu 12 Sep 2019 11:08amI'd certainly be loathe to move Marshall away from being an onballer, and agree with your thoughts on 'Iron Grip' Jack.
But I like a side that has flexibility. It can help players break tags, as well as making us less predictable.
Battle’s goals were super important against the Suns
Good call late last year DownAtTheJunction. His goals were clutch at a critical time
Looking forward to your impact scores this week
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Re: Battle forward
I think Battle is the real x-factor of our season. If he can step up a bit more like tonight it adds a whole new layer of unpredictability to our team
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Re: Battle forward
He was one of our better players tonight. I thought the Saints got back into the game when King went off.
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Re: Battle forward
I like how Josh took the contested mark and went back and just kicked it.
Impressive.
Impressive.
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Re: Battle forward
Flexible player. Just a smart footballer. Need to re-sign as he could forward or back to cover key position players and can be used anywhere every week.
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Re: Battle forward
Sharp contrast compared to his game against Carlton (I think) where he looked unlikely to hit the side of a barn.
Both goals were under pressure
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Re: Battle forward
He looks like he is ready to take the next step and be consistently dangerous up forward and flexible enough to run from end to end with great impact.
I expect he just earnt a lot of respect from Ratten tonight. It's fantastic to see young players come on and impact when it matters.
Sign him up for 4 years now.
I expect he just earnt a lot of respect from Ratten tonight. It's fantastic to see young players come on and impact when it matters.
Sign him up for 4 years now.
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Re: Battle forward
When Membrey, King and Marshall didn’t really look like taking a mark up forward he was fantastic.
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Re: Battle forward
Thanks Scollop, I think every Sainter knows who had the impact this week - the guy who slotted four. I’m not sure what he’ll score in the ‘Impact’ ratings but I’ll be in hiding if he is not near the top.Scollop wrote: ↑Thu 06 Aug 2020 11:51pmBump.DownAtTheJunction wrote: ↑Thu 12 Sep 2019 11:08amI'd certainly be loathe to move Marshall away from being an onballer, and agree with your thoughts on 'Iron Grip' Jack.
But I like a side that has flexibility. It can help players break tags, as well as making us less predictable.
Battle’s goals were super important against the Suns
Good call late last year DownAtTheJunction. His goals were clutch at a critical time
Looking forward to your impact scores this week
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Re: Battle forward
Good little thought there actually DATJ...DownAtTheJunction wrote: ↑Fri 07 Aug 2020 12:23amThanks Scollop, I think every Sainter knows who had the impact this week - the guy who slotted four. I’m not sure what he’ll score in the ‘Impact’ ratings but I’ll be in hiding if he is not near the top.Scollop wrote: ↑Thu 06 Aug 2020 11:51pmBump.DownAtTheJunction wrote: ↑Thu 12 Sep 2019 11:08amI'd certainly be loathe to move Marshall away from being an onballer, and agree with your thoughts on 'Iron Grip' Jack.
But I like a side that has flexibility. It can help players break tags, as well as making us less predictable.
Battle’s goals were super important against the Suns
Good call late last year DownAtTheJunction. His goals were clutch at a critical time
Looking forward to your impact scores this week
Does the significance of the play in the context of the match impact the score? Should it?
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Re: Battle forward
Considering Hind's score last week, he should do ok.skeptic wrote: ↑Fri 07 Aug 2020 12:29amGood little thought there actually DATJ...DownAtTheJunction wrote: ↑Fri 07 Aug 2020 12:23amThanks Scollop, I think every Sainter knows who had the impact this week - the guy who slotted four. I’m not sure what he’ll score in the ‘Impact’ ratings but I’ll be in hiding if he is not near the top.Scollop wrote: ↑Thu 06 Aug 2020 11:51pmBump.DownAtTheJunction wrote: ↑Thu 12 Sep 2019 11:08amI'd certainly be loathe to move Marshall away from being an onballer, and agree with your thoughts on 'Iron Grip' Jack.
But I like a side that has flexibility. It can help players break tags, as well as making us less predictable.
Battle’s goals were super important against the Suns
Good call late last year DownAtTheJunction. His goals were clutch at a critical time
Looking forward to your impact scores this week
Does the significance of the play in the context of the match impact the score? Should it?
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Re: Battle forward
Battle is going to be quite important to the structure of the team and will make it harder for opposition teams to sort out their match ups. Gives us a bit of X factor with the way he can play well both forward and back.