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I remember him playing a few games, never really did much, pretty average if I recall correctly
Not even a GOP
That is harsh.
I remember Mordi as one of our better players for a couple of years.
Wasn't brilliant but was very reliable.
The rest of Australia can wander mask-free, socialise, eat out, no curfews, no zoning, no police rings of steel, no illogical inconsistent rules.
They can even WATCH LIVE FOOTY!
Darth Vader wrote: ↑Fri 06 Sep 2019 11:44am
Massive lefty so expect finding accordingly.
Bromberg unsuccessfully contested Australian Labor Party (ALP) pre-selection for the electorate of Burke.
He was defeated by Brendan O'Connor, brother of CFMMEU union goon Michael O'Connor.
He was appointed to the Federal Court by the Rudd Labor government.
He presided in the controversial Bolt Case in the Federal Court, in which columnist Andrew Bolt was found to be in breach of Section 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act.
I have no confidence in him as a judge.
He was a better footballer than a judge.
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The more you know, the more you know you don't know.
When I was a young child, I knew that I knew so much about so much.
Now that I am old and know so much more, I know that I know so much about so little, and so little about so much.
If you are not engaging AI actively and aggressively, you are doing it wrong.
You are not going to lose your job to AI.
You are going lose your job to somebody who uses AI.
Your company is not going to go out of business because of AI.
Your company is going to go out of business because another company used AI.
- Jensen Huang, CEO of NVIDIA
I remember him playing a few games, never really did much, pretty average if I recall correctly
Not even a GOP
That is harsh.
I remember Mordi as one of our better players for a couple of years.
Wasn't brilliant but was very reliable.
My father said his 1980 season was the best as he played mostly in the seniors, He was an ok player but was no stand out. Only played about 3 games the following year and that's about it with his VFL playing days.
Importantly, he focused on his exceptional law career and should be extremely proud of his accomplishments. Was a well spoken, level-headed guy from a good family. Good on him.
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I remember him playing a few games, never really did much, pretty average if I recall correctly
Not even a GOP
That is harsh.
I remember Mordi as one of our better players for a couple of years.
Wasn't brilliant but was very reliable.
My father said his 1980 season was the best as he played mostly in the seniors, He was an ok player but was no stand out. Only played about 3 games the following year and that's about it with his VFL player.
Importantly, he focused on his exceptional law career and should be extremely proud of his accomplishments. Was a well spoken, level-headed guy from a good family. Good on him.
So now we are drafting judges as well as footballers based on "comes from a good family".
The more you know, the more you know you don't know.
When I was a young child, I knew that I knew so much about so much.
Now that I am old and know so much more, I know that I know so much about so little, and so little about so much.
If you are not engaging AI actively and aggressively, you are doing it wrong.
You are not going to lose your job to AI.
You are going lose your job to somebody who uses AI.
Your company is not going to go out of business because of AI.
Your company is going to go out of business because another company used AI.
- Jensen Huang, CEO of NVIDIA
I remember him playing a few games, never really did much, pretty average if I recall correctly
Not even a GOP
That is harsh.
I remember Mordi as one of our better players for a couple of years.
Wasn't brilliant but was very reliable.
My father said his 1980 season was the best as he played mostly in the seniors, He was an ok player but was no stand out. Only played about 3 games the following year and that's about it with his VFL player.
Importantly, he focused on his exceptional law career and should be extremely proud of his accomplishments. Was a well spoken, level-headed guy from a good family. Good on him.
So now we are drafting judges as well as footballers based on "comes from a good family".
Not good when it influences his decisions. Call me old-fashioned but I like a judiciary that makes decisions based on the law rather than on personal political preference. If they’re genuine refugees under the law then let them stay. But if they’re not, apply the law.
I reckon the bloody moderator here could learn a lesson or two from this.
AwayInUSA no longer ... have based myself back in Melbourne for a decade of Saintsational Success (with regular trips back to the USA)
Not good when it influences his decisions. Call me old-fashioned but I like a judiciary that makes decisions based on the law rather than on personal political preference. If they’re genuine refugees under the law then let them stay. But if they’re not, apply the law.
Gee, maybe I missed something here, but isn't he a judge? Sounds to me like he is actually applying the law, one that the government is very good at twisting when it suits them. It would be a mistake to assume the Australian government works within our laws.
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Mordi Bromberg is an excellent judge. He is really well regarded. It would be very wrong to assume he will not apply the law to the facts as he finds them because of some perception of his political beliefs. He won’t likely have much discretion to exercise here anyway.
This is not the US. Our system is not perfect, and judges are not perfect, but you can be confident that the judiciary here cannot push political agendas without any checks.
SemperFidelis wrote: ↑Sat 07 Sep 2019 12:36pm
Mordi Bromberg is an excellent judge. He is really well regarded. It would be very wrong to assume he will not apply the law to the facts as he finds them because of some perception of his political beliefs. He won’t likely have much discretion to exercise here anyway.
This is not the US. Our system is not perfect, and judges are not perfect, but you can be confident that the judiciary here cannot push political agendas without any checks.
"It would be very wrong to assume he will not apply the law to the facts as he finds them because of some perception of his political beliefs".
He's an ALP hack, of course politics will shape his decisions, as they have in the past.
SemperFidelis wrote: ↑Sat 07 Sep 2019 12:36pm
This is not the US. Our system is not perfect, and judges are not perfect, but you can be confident that the judiciary here cannot push political agendas without any checks.
The fact your 2nd sentence begins with the qualification on two factors, the system & humanity, actually suggests we cannot be confident.
I believe it's naive believing political agendas cannot be pushed through the judiciary when the judiciary is itself a beast driven by politics, favouritism, nepotism and agendas.
SemperFidelis wrote: ↑Sat 07 Sep 2019 12:36pm
Mordi Bromberg is an excellent judge. He is really well regarded. It would be very wrong to assume he will not apply the law to the facts as he finds them because of some perception of his political beliefs. He won’t likely have much discretion to exercise here anyway.
This is not the US. Our system is not perfect, and judges are not perfect, but you can be confident that the judiciary here cannot push political agendas without any checks.
"It would be very wrong to assume he will not apply the law to the facts as he finds them because of some perception of his political beliefs".
He's an ALP hack, of course politics will shape his decisions, as they have in the past.
You need some ALP hacks as much as you need LNP nuffies in our legal system..between them, things usually get sorted.
Darth Vader wrote: ↑Fri 06 Sep 2019 11:44am
Massive lefty so expect finding accordingly.
Bromberg unsuccessfully contested Australian Labor Party (ALP) pre-selection for the electorate of Burke.
He was defeated by Brendan O'Connor, brother of CFMMEU union goon Michael O'Connor.
He was appointed to the Federal Court by the Rudd Labor government.
He presided in the controversial Bolt Case in the Federal Court, in which columnist Andrew Bolt was found to be in breach of Section 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act.
I have no confidence in him as a judge.
He was a better footballer than a judge.
Not much chop at either AFAIC.
Left wing bleeding heart.
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Not good when it influences his decisions. Call me old-fashioned but I like a judiciary that makes decisions based on the law rather than on personal political preference. If they’re genuine refugees under the law then let them stay. But if they’re not, apply the law.
I reckon the bloody moderator here could learn a lesson or two from this.
SemperFidelis wrote: ↑Sat 07 Sep 2019 12:36pm
Mordi Bromberg is an excellent judge. He is really well regarded. It would be very wrong to assume he will not apply the law to the facts as he finds them because of some perception of his political beliefs. He won’t likely have much discretion to exercise here anyway.
This is not the US. Our system is not perfect, and judges are not perfect, but you can be confident that the judiciary here cannot push political agendas without any checks.
"It would be very wrong to assume he will not apply the law to the facts as he finds them because of some perception of his political beliefs".
He's an ALP hack, of course politics will shape his decisions, as they have in the past.
You need some ALP hacks as much as you need LNP nuffies in our legal system..between them, things usually get sorted.
No, you need Judges that aren't idealogues or political. Both point to a diminished ability for critical thought, not to mention a diminished intellect.
Darth Vader wrote: ↑Fri 06 Sep 2019 11:44am
Massive lefty so expect finding accordingly.
Bromberg unsuccessfully contested Australian Labor Party (ALP) pre-selection for the electorate of Burke.
He was defeated by Brendan O'Connor, brother of CFMMEU union goon Michael O'Connor.
He was appointed to the Federal Court by the Rudd Labor government.
He presided in the controversial Bolt Case in the Federal Court, in which columnist Andrew Bolt was found to be in breach of Section 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act.
I have no confidence in him as a judge.
He was a better footballer than a judge.
Notmuch chop at either AFAIC.
Left wing bleeding heart.
Love watching a small man with a secateur trying to cut down a tall poppy.
Darth Vader wrote: ↑Fri 06 Sep 2019 11:44am
Massive lefty so expect finding accordingly.
Bromberg unsuccessfully contested Australian Labor Party (ALP) pre-selection for the electorate of Burke.
He was defeated by Brendan O'Connor, brother of CFMMEU union goon Michael O'Connor.
He was appointed to the Federal Court by the Rudd Labor government.
He presided in the controversial Bolt Case in the Federal Court, in which columnist Andrew Bolt was found to be in breach of Section 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act.
I have no confidence in him as a judge.
He was a better footballer than a judge.
Notmuch chop at either AFAIC.
Left wing bleeding heart.
Love watching a small man with a secateur trying to cut down a tall poppy.
SemperFidelis wrote: ↑Sat 07 Sep 2019 12:36pm
Mordi Bromberg is an excellent judge. He is really well regarded. It would be very wrong to assume he will not apply the law to the facts as he finds them because of some perception of his political beliefs. He won’t likely have much discretion to exercise here anyway.
This is not the US. Our system is not perfect, and judges are not perfect, but you can be confident that the judiciary here cannot push political agendas without any checks.
"It would be very wrong to assume he will not apply the law to the facts as he finds them because of some perception of his political beliefs".
He's an ALP hack, of course politics will shape his decisions, as they have in the past.
You need some ALP hacks as much as you need LNP nuffies in our legal system..between them, things usually get sorted.
No, you need Judges that aren't idealogues or political. Both point to a diminished ability for critical thought, not to mention a diminished intellect.
SemperFidelis wrote: ↑Sat 07 Sep 2019 12:36pm
This is not the US. Our system is not perfect, and judges are not perfect, but you can be confident that the judiciary here cannot push political agendas without any checks.
The fact your 2nd sentence begins with the qualification on two factors, the system & humanity, actually suggests we cannot be confident.
I believe it's naive believing political agendas cannot be pushed through the judiciary when the judiciary is itself a beast driven by politics, favouritism, nepotism and agendas.
That’s a pretty bleak view.
I’m not at all naive. Of course political agendas can be pushed through appointments. Of course there are nepotistic appointments. But we have a decent appeals system and an actual ability to change laws that the public thinks don’t work.
People shouldn’t just point to a decision they don’t like and conclude the judge has either a bias or is fulfilling the destiny of his or her political masters. That’s just wrong.
SemperFidelis wrote: ↑Sat 07 Sep 2019 12:36pm
This is not the US. Our system is not perfect, and judges are not perfect, but you can be confident that the judiciary here cannot push political agendas without any checks.
The fact your 2nd sentence begins with the qualification on two factors, the system & humanity, actually suggests we cannot be confident.
I believe it's naive believing political agendas cannot be pushed through the judiciary when the judiciary is itself a beast driven by politics, favouritism, nepotism and agendas.
That’s a pretty bleak view.
I’m not at all naive. Of course political agendas can be pushed through appointments. Of course there are nepotistic appointments.
But people can’t just point to a decision they don’t like and conclude the judge has either a bias or is fulfilling the destiny of his or her political masters. That’s just wrong.
So which is it SF? Political agendas can be pushed through appointments OR we can be confident the judiciary here cannot push political agendas.
You can call the view bleak which it is but sadly it is more realistic than idealistic. It is that view that's naive.
Judges sometimes go rogue. But it’s usually pretty hard for 3 or 5 judges to all go rogue together. And with compulsory retirement it’s pretty hard for either side of politics to stack a court like they do in the US.
No offence taken Ghost Like. I readily accept I’m on the idealists’ side when it comes to this issue.
I mostly did not like others potting one of our own.
SemperFidelis wrote: ↑Sat 07 Sep 2019 12:36pm
Mordi Bromberg is an excellent judge. He is really well regarded. It would be very wrong to assume he will not apply the law to the facts as he finds them because of some perception of his political beliefs. He won’t likely have much discretion to exercise here anyway.
This is not the US. Our system is not perfect, and judges are not perfect, but you can be confident that the judiciary here cannot push political agendas without any checks.
"It would be very wrong to assume he will not apply the law to the facts as he finds them because of some perception of his political beliefs".
He's an ALP hack, of course politics will shape his decisions, as they have in the past.
You need some ALP hacks as much as you need LNP nuffies in our legal system..between them, things usually get sorted.
Given the number of lawyers that seek refuge in the liberal party it's amazing there is one alp hack amongst them
SemperFidelis wrote: ↑Sat 07 Sep 2019 8:31pm
I think you missed “without checks”.
Judges sometimes go rogue. But it’s usually pretty hard for 3 or 5 judges to all go rogue together. And with compulsory retirement it’s pretty hard for either side of politics to stack a court like they do in the US.
No offence taken Ghost Like. I readily accept I’m on the idealists’ side when it comes to this issue.
I mostly did not like others potting one of our own.
All good SemperFidelis, I had no doubt where your view was coming from being the defence of one of our own.
I didn't miss "without checks", I just thought it had auto corrected "without cheques".
Yes, I'm very cynical, particularly about some of our bastions and motives of our elected. It's not you, it's me.
SemperFidelis wrote: ↑Sat 07 Sep 2019 8:31pm
I think you missed “without checks”.
Judges sometimes go rogue. But it’s usually pretty hard for 3 or 5 judges to all go rogue together. And with compulsory retirement it’s pretty hard for either side of politics to stack a court like they do in the US.
No offence taken Ghost Like. I readily accept I’m on the idealists’ side when it comes to this issue.
I mostly did not like others potting one of our own.
All good SemperFidelis, I had no doubt where your view was coming from being the defence of one of our own.
I didn't miss "without checks", I just thought it had auto corrected "without cheques".
Yes, I'm very cynical, particularly about some of our bastions and motives of our elected. It's not you, it's me.
LOL. I’d be more concerned about the brown paper bag. Or the Aldi bag.