The List is Good
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The List is Good
Today's performance started last week. The players carried the same intensity from last week into today's game.
The list is good there is no doubt about it and I think we can rise quickly with a little luck on the injury front and a successful trade period.
The list is good there is no doubt about it and I think we can rise quickly with a little luck on the injury front and a successful trade period.
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I think we have started well by changing the coach. I think our list can improve markedly through trades and picks but my god it was refreshing to see the young blokes play with freedom.
So we are on our way to correcting & connecting the 3 pillars, coaching, recruiting & development.
So we are on our way to correcting & connecting the 3 pillars, coaching, recruiting & development.
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Re: The List is Good
Steven, Hannebery, Battle and King to get back in this side for next year.
Possibly Geary, Kent and Long to push for a spot also.
If Steven and Hanners can get back to top form, it could be a resurgent 2020
Possibly Geary, Kent and Long to push for a spot also.
If Steven and Hanners can get back to top form, it could be a resurgent 2020
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It started last week. The new coach circus effect will dissipate quicky but I don't think we will hear the sound of a dead cat bouncing because we have a good list that has heen cruelled by jnjury.Ghost Like wrote: ↑Sun 21 Jul 2019 11:39pm I think we have started well by changing the coach. I think our list can improve markedly through trades and picks but my god it was refreshing to see the young blokes play with freedom.
So we are on our way to correcting & connecting the 3 pillars, coaching, recruiting & development.
What's changed in the past 2 weeks other than the coach. Jake is getting some touch and run in his legs jow that his pre season is almost completed and Jack L is back in the side. This guy alone creates real hardness and intensity and makes his teammates walk a little taller it would seem.
7 wins and we are still a mathematical chance of finals. Look through the list of players to come back too. Like I say a good list that can only get better.
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We still need top end cream and particularly top-end mids who are damaging with the ball.
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agreed and Im not going to even count Hannebery as a saviour eithersaintsRrising wrote: ↑Tue 23 Jul 2019 4:07pm We still need top end cream and particularly top-end mids who are damaging with the ball.
Simply we must draft a future AA onballer next draft
Bytel MUST have an impact in 2020
Billings & Gresham must improve as onballers and you can add Hind into the midfield mix as well
I have given up on the club attracting the kind of big fish midfielder we have all been hoping for over the last 5 years
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I've played the game for 35 years in this current life and I say it's good.
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That idea was always doomed to failure as was the AFL's belief that FA would assist in levelling the competition.
FA was a big factor in the Hawk's three-peat and now in allowing the Tigers to gain Lynch for free will be a big factor if they do win a second flag. Both teams though obviously doing a lot of other things right.
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I think the list is good enough to play finals next year with the right coach ![👍](//cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/twitter/twemoji@latest/assets/svg/1f44d.svg)
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I like our list too. I think add a handful of stars and we would have a very strong list because we have a lot of depth.
But i have to agree with others we do lack star power, some of that will come from players improving and we will also need to draft well
But i have to agree with others we do lack star power, some of that will come from players improving and we will also need to draft well
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I think we are going to be all right.
I also believe we have some A grade talent in the making. We just have to develop it.
Richo had a difficult job developing players over the past 3 years, and it wasn’t necessarily his fault. In 2016 we were pushing for finals, so he selected a team based on that. Last year it was trying to steady a sinking ship. Rather than develop talent he stuck to a known quantity, all because he signed a contract with a clause.
I think that clause in his contract was both a carrot and an anvil.
I don’t know how his manager negotiated for that stipulation. Maybe Richo’s optimistic bias led him to believe he had the tools to meet the terms of that clause.
Turns out an anvil outweighs a carrot.
I also believe we have some A grade talent in the making. We just have to develop it.
Richo had a difficult job developing players over the past 3 years, and it wasn’t necessarily his fault. In 2016 we were pushing for finals, so he selected a team based on that. Last year it was trying to steady a sinking ship. Rather than develop talent he stuck to a known quantity, all because he signed a contract with a clause.
I think that clause in his contract was both a carrot and an anvil.
I don’t know how his manager negotiated for that stipulation. Maybe Richo’s optimistic bias led him to believe he had the tools to meet the terms of that clause.
Turns out an anvil outweighs a carrot.
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On 15th but all developing sides work thier way up.
Melbourne are below us atm but will be top 4 again next year.
Melbourne are below us atm but will be top 4 again next year.
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It’s a depth list. It could be very good if it had the addition of a few star players, which it doesn’t.
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It’s been a developing side since 2013.HighettMan wrote: ↑Tue 23 Jul 2019 8:24pm On 15th but all developing sides work thier way up.
Melbourne are below us atm but will be top 4 again next year.
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The 2009-2010 side that never was, was a developing side since 1999. What's your point.SydneySainter wrote: ↑Tue 23 Jul 2019 9:42pmIt’s been a developing side since 2013.HighettMan wrote: ↑Tue 23 Jul 2019 8:24pm On 15th but all developing sides work thier way up.
Melbourne are below us atm but will be top 4 again next year.
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If the list is actually good then 12 wins from his past 44 games says the previous coach was absolutely terrible.
Another 6 years lost.
Another 6 years lost.
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That side hit its stride in 2004, winning 10 games on the trot, being a kick away from a grand final and had two All-Australians that year and the year before.HighettMan wrote: ↑Tue 23 Jul 2019 10:09pmThe 2009-2010 side that never was, was a developing side since 1999. What's your point.SydneySainter wrote: ↑Tue 23 Jul 2019 9:42pmIt’s been a developing side since 2013.HighettMan wrote: ↑Tue 23 Jul 2019 8:24pm On 15th but all developing sides work thier way up.
Melbourne are below us atm but will be top 4 again next year.
That’s my point.
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And 2000/2001/2002 was the height of the rebuild
We had numerous FRDPs in those years
We had numerous FRDPs in those years
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Yeah we had sharp upward trajectory in 04 for sure then we dipped and plateaued for 5 years till 2009.SydneySainter wrote: ↑Tue 23 Jul 2019 10:15pmThat side hit its stride in 2004, winning 10 games on the trot, being a kick away from a grand final and had two All-Australians that year and the year before.HighettMan wrote: ↑Tue 23 Jul 2019 10:09pmThe 2009-2010 side that never was, was a developing side since 1999. What's your point.SydneySainter wrote: ↑Tue 23 Jul 2019 9:42pmIt’s been a developing side since 2013.HighettMan wrote: ↑Tue 23 Jul 2019 8:24pm On 15th but all developing sides work thier way up.
Melbourne are below us atm but will be top 4 again next year.
That’s my point.
This current list had a sharp upward trajectory in 16 and 17. This list also had a dip and the sign's are we could rise sharply again.
Still not getting your point. You clearly believe development cycles should all be the same or should all just sharply and spectacularly rise to a flag in record breaking time and without a few hurdles along the way. There are rare exceptions but we are not one of them. Take Melbourne for example, prelim one year, wooden spoon the next. They will possibly be top 4 again next year.
BTW your signature is disgusting and repulsive.
Do you have a mother, sister, girlfriend or wife?
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My point is that if we’re still developing with largely the same list for the past six seasons and we still have no star players, no AA’s since 2014, not pushing for finals and can’t attract that star free agent the club keeps promising. Shiel practically halved his potential salary by telling us “thanks but no thanks.” This is more than just a case of the list “still developing,” this is the club having to do a rebuild of Richo’s previous rebuild.HighettMan wrote: ↑Wed 24 Jul 2019 6:34amYeah we had sharp upward trajectory in 04 for sure then we dipped and plateaued for 5 years till 2009.SydneySainter wrote: ↑Tue 23 Jul 2019 10:15pmThat side hit its stride in 2004, winning 10 games on the trot, being a kick away from a grand final and had two All-Australians that year and the year before.HighettMan wrote: ↑Tue 23 Jul 2019 10:09pmThe 2009-2010 side that never was, was a developing side since 1999. What's your point.SydneySainter wrote: ↑Tue 23 Jul 2019 9:42pmIt’s been a developing side since 2013.HighettMan wrote: ↑Tue 23 Jul 2019 8:24pm On 15th but all developing sides work thier way up.
Melbourne are below us atm but will be top 4 again next year.
That’s my point.
This current list had a sharp upward trajectory in 16 and 17. This list also had a dip and the sign's are we could rise sharply again.
Still not getting your point. You clearly believe development cycles should all be the same or should all just sharply and spectacularly rise to a flag in record breaking time and without a few hurdles along the way. There are rare exceptions but we are not one of them. Take Melbourne for example, prelim one year, wooden spoon the next. They will possibly be top 4 again next year.
BTW your signature is disgusting and repulsive.
Do you have a mother, sister, girlfriend or wife?
In the age of trying to educate the community about violence against women your signature is very out of step with how we should behave towards women.
Bad management is bad management
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How foolish do the board look now, they sacked a coach when all the club needed was Jake with some run in his legs & a small forward who is just establishing himself in the 22 to return from a knee injury. As long as these two stay on the park we can't lose!HighettMan wrote: ↑Mon 22 Jul 2019 6:27amIt started last week. The new coach circus effect will dissipate quicky but I don't think we will hear the sound of a dead cat bouncing because we have a good list that has heen cruelled by jnjury.Ghost Like wrote: ↑Sun 21 Jul 2019 11:39pm I think we have started well by changing the coach. I think our list can improve markedly through trades and picks but my god it was refreshing to see the young blokes play with freedom.
So we are on our way to correcting & connecting the 3 pillars, coaching, recruiting & development.
What's changed in the past 2 weeks other than the coach. Jake is getting some touch and run in his legs jow that his pre season is almost completed and Jack L is back in the side. This guy alone creates real hardness and intensity and makes his teammates walk a little taller it would seem.
7 wins and we are still a mathematical chance of finals. Look through the list of players to come back too. Like I say a good list that can only get better.
How's the bring back Richo petition going?
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The list is good. Still have too many soldiers and not enough class for my liking though. An ounce of footy luck to go St Kilda’s way would also be nice. Haven’t had much luck since Milney’s ball bounced sideways nearly a DECADE ago.
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BTW your signature is disgusting and repulsive.
Do you have a mother, sister, girlfriend or wife?
In the age of trying to educate the community about violence against women your signature is very out of step with how we should behave towards women.
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1++++ I'm surprised he gets away with this signature!
BTW your signature is disgusting and repulsive.
Do you have a mother, sister, girlfriend or wife?
In the age of trying to educate the community about violence against women your signature is very out of step with how we should behave towards women.
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1++++ I'm surprised he gets away with this signature!