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5 Years of All Australian

Post: # 1801522Post Toy Saint »

St Kilda has not had an All Australian since 2014.

And I doubt we'll even get a nomination this year.

Would a great coach turn any of our players into champions?

Or do we need a bit more than a coach to turn things around?


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Re: 5 Years of All Australian

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Toy Saint wrote: Wed 26 Jun 2019 10:36pm St Kilda has not had an All Australian since 2014.

And I doubt we'll even get a nomination this year.

Would a great coach turn any of our players into champions?

Or do we need a bit more than a coach to turn things around?
Our only AA hope is Max King - if he ever can get on the park.

Or a gun FA.

Richo can’t attract a gun FA - maybe a new coach can??


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Re: 5 Years of All Australian

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Telling.


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Re: 5 Years of All Australian

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Special wrote:
Toy Saint wrote: Wed 26 Jun 2019 10:36pm St Kilda has not had an All Australian since 2014.

And I doubt we'll even get a nomination this year.

Would a great coach turn any of our players into champions?

Or do we need a bit more than a coach to turn things around?
Our only AA hope is Max King - if he ever can get on the park.

Or a gun FA.

Richo can’t attract a gun FA - maybe a new coach can??
I think Billings, Gresham, Steele reek with AA potential.

Other possibles are Membrey, Marshall and Battle.


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Re: 5 Years of All Australian

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Toy Saint wrote: Wed 26 Jun 2019 10:36pmWould a great coach turn any of our players into champions?
A new coach might actually try. I find it astounding that after five and a half years, facing his coaching mortality, Richo still won't use Jack Billings in the centre. The development of all our early draft picks stalls, because they all find themselves stuck behind one Richo favourite or another. Clark attended zero centre bounces last week. Paton and Coffield are languishing in the VFL because we're trying to avoid the kind of big, embarrassing defeats that get coaches fired. It's not working. The only reason we're still persisting with this farce is because the league gave us a soft draw and so we're somehow, cruelly, still seemingly in the finals hunt.


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Re: 5 Years of All Australian

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vacuous space wrote: Thu 27 Jun 2019 12:33am
Toy Saint wrote: Wed 26 Jun 2019 10:36pmWould a great coach turn any of our players into champions?
A new coach might actually try. I find it astounding that after five and a half years, facing his coaching mortality, Richo still won't use Jack Billings in the centre. The development of all our early draft picks stalls, because they all find themselves stuck behind one Richo favourite or another. Clark attended zero centre bounces last week. Paton and Coffield are languishing in the VFL because we're trying to avoid the kind of big, embarrassing defeats that get coaches fired. It's not working. The only reason we're still persisting with this farce is because the league gave us a soft draw and so we're somehow, cruelly, still seemingly in the finals hunt.

You are spot on...if Richo tried Billings in the middle, heck try everyone everywhere....I would not be unhappy with Richo if he had a crack at every game style, shift players completely around....at least after 6 years he could say, " hey, I had a crack, I tried everything". But instead he has persisted with the s same mind numbing game plan and blindly selected players who were literally game dead to play week after week in the same spot returning the same piss poor outcomes.


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Re: 5 Years of All Australian

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We are the only team to not have an All Australian in the last 4 seasons.


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Re: 5 Years of All Australian

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Beno88 wrote: Thu 27 Jun 2019 9:33am We are the only team to not have an All Australian in the last 4 seasons.
This alone should silence the cholovers


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Re: 5 Years of All Australian

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Special wrote: Thu 27 Jun 2019 4:26pm
Beno88 wrote: Thu 27 Jun 2019 9:33am We are the only team to not have an All Australian in the last 4 seasons.
This alone should silence the cholovers
Funny term that. I suppose if you criticise the team and the on field performance you are seen as a Chohater. Maybe it doesn't matter if you are a Cholover or Chohater. At least the term implies there is some passion.

When we get to a stage where fans walk away and leave the ground at 3 quarter time and don't give a stuff about turning up next week, that's when it becomes worrying for memberships and for club survival. Some of us are nearly at this point



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Re: 5 Years of All Australian

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Contenders Battle and Marshall. Although Marshall would have to get over Gawn and that WCE chap - is it Hickey, no just kidding, its Niccy.


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Re: 5 Years of All Australian

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Special wrote: Thu 27 Jun 2019 4:26pm
Beno88 wrote: Thu 27 Jun 2019 9:33am We are the only team to not have an All Australian in the last 4 seasons.
This alone should silence the cholovers
Interesting perspective. It could easily be argued that the coach has no good players to work with.

There's justification to blame the recruiting staff more than the head coach.


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Re: 5 Years of All Australian

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Toy Saint wrote: Thu 27 Jun 2019 9:07pm
Special wrote: Thu 27 Jun 2019 4:26pm
Beno88 wrote: Thu 27 Jun 2019 9:33am We are the only team to not have an All Australian in the last 4 seasons.
This alone should silence the cholovers
Interesting perspective. It could easily be argued that the coach has no good players to work with.

There's justification to blame the recruiting staff more than the head coach.
Agree... worst recruitment in the league.

AFL throwing all the talent at GWS and Gold Coast didn't help either.

...and then Ross Lyon and co not recruiting young talent.

A perfect storm that is now delivering its destruction


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