No scoring power
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Re: No scoring power
With Bruce, Membrey and Carlisle in the F50 we shouldn't have been short of marking power...of course, it has to get there properly first.
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Re: No scoring power
Don’t know when Carlisle became a master forward... especially after a long lay off
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Re: No scoring power
If you can't win the ball in the middle and at other stoppages, you will never have scoring power
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Re: No scoring power
Absolutely gobsmacked he was even there...it's like Cho read someone's brain dump on here and mistook it for a valid suggestion. However, he can take a mark...and that's my point.
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Re: No scoring power
Follow the thought process through...
Our best defender of the last few years is back after 8-9 months off injured...
Quick drop Nathan Brown and play Carlisle FORWARD!!! The hardest position on the ground that he’s not prepared for...
Imagine it... Acres wins a decisive hit out to Ross as he, Hannebery, and Armitage burn off their opponents and kick lace out to CARLISLE.
Oh Richo, you’ve done it again
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Re: No scoring power
Ross wouldn't be capable of hitting the side of a barn, lace in or out.skeptic wrote: ↑Sat 22 Jun 2019 8:53pmFollow the thought process through...
Our best defender of the last few years is back after 8-9 months off injured...
Quick drop Nathan Brown and play Carlisle FORWARD!!! The hardest position on the ground that he’s not prepared for...
Imagine it... Acres wins a decisive hit out to Ross as he, Hannebery, and Armitage burn off their opponents and kick lace out to CARLISLE.
Oh Richo, you’ve done it again
The Saints are under review, will it make any difference to the underachievers ?
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Re: No scoring power
Notice anything else in that scenario that seemed a bit peculiar?Wayne42 wrote: ↑Sat 22 Jun 2019 9:44pmRoss wouldn't be capable of hitting the side of a barn, lace in or out.skeptic wrote: ↑Sat 22 Jun 2019 8:53pmFollow the thought process through...
Our best defender of the last few years is back after 8-9 months off injured...
Quick drop Nathan Brown and play Carlisle FORWARD!!! The hardest position on the ground that he’s not prepared for...
Imagine it... Acres wins a decisive hit out to Ross as he, Hannebery, and Armitage burn off their opponents and kick lace out to CARLISLE.
Oh Richo, you’ve done it again
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Re: No scoring power
He’s a genius.skeptic wrote: ↑Sat 22 Jun 2019 8:53pmFollow the thought process through...
Our best defender of the last few years is back after 8-9 months off injured...
Quick drop Nathan Brown and play Carlisle FORWARD!!! The hardest position on the ground that he’s not prepared for...
Imagine it... Acres wins a decisive hit out to Ross as he, Hannebery, and Armitage burn off their opponents and kick lace out to CARLISLE.
Oh Richo, you’ve done it again
But remember he’s still learning the craft of coaching, which is fair enough given it’s only his 6th season as senior coach.
Give him an extension until the end of 2024 - he may get us into the finals that year.
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Re: No scoring power
Post of the year. Comfortably the worst starting midfielder in the AFL. Usual game high accumulation of meaningless possessions.Wayne42 wrote: ↑Sat 22 Jun 2019 9:44pmRoss wouldn't be capable of hitting the side of a barn, lace in or out.skeptic wrote: ↑Sat 22 Jun 2019 8:53pmFollow the thought process through...
Our best defender of the last few years is back after 8-9 months off injured...
Quick drop Nathan Brown and play Carlisle FORWARD!!! The hardest position on the ground that he’s not prepared for...
Imagine it... Acres wins a decisive hit out to Ross as he, Hannebery, and Armitage burn off their opponents and kick lace out to CARLISLE.
Oh Richo, you’ve done it again
Disgracefully one-sided VAFA level skills and even worse vision. And to think he’s our Captain.
Makes me sick.
Go you red, black & white warriors
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Re: No scoring power
I’m really miffed here...Saintmatt wrote: ↑Sat 22 Jun 2019 10:13pmPost of the year. Comfortably the worst starting midfielder in the AFL. Usual game high accumulation of meaningless possessions.Wayne42 wrote: ↑Sat 22 Jun 2019 9:44pmRoss wouldn't be capable of hitting the side of a barn, lace in or out.skeptic wrote: ↑Sat 22 Jun 2019 8:53pmFollow the thought process through...
Our best defender of the last few years is back after 8-9 months off injured...
Quick drop Nathan Brown and play Carlisle FORWARD!!! The hardest position on the ground that he’s not prepared for...
Imagine it... Acres wins a decisive hit out to Ross as he, Hannebery, and Armitage burn off their opponents and kick lace out to CARLISLE.
Oh Richo, you’ve done it again
Disgracefully one-sided VAFA level skills and even worse vision. And to think he’s our Captain.
Makes me sick.
You guys know that my post on Richo wasn’t a compliment right?
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Re: No scoring power
Yes skeptic, i understood what you wrote, be miffed no longer.skeptic wrote: ↑Sat 22 Jun 2019 10:17pmI’m really miffed here...Saintmatt wrote: ↑Sat 22 Jun 2019 10:13pmPost of the year. Comfortably the worst starting midfielder in the AFL. Usual game high accumulation of meaningless possessions.Wayne42 wrote: ↑Sat 22 Jun 2019 9:44pmRoss wouldn't be capable of hitting the side of a barn, lace in or out.skeptic wrote: ↑Sat 22 Jun 2019 8:53pmFollow the thought process through...
Our best defender of the last few years is back after 8-9 months off injured...
Quick drop Nathan Brown and play Carlisle FORWARD!!! The hardest position on the ground that he’s not prepared for...
Imagine it... Acres wins a decisive hit out to Ross as he, Hannebery, and Armitage burn off their opponents and kick lace out to CARLISLE.
Oh Richo, you’ve done it again
Disgracefully one-sided VAFA level skills and even worse vision. And to think he’s our Captain.
Makes me sick.
You guys know that my post on Richo wasn’t a compliment right?
I commented on one aspect of it. I wanted to mention Ross and his woeful disposal.
The Saints are under review, will it make any difference to the underachievers ?
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Re: No scoring power
Whoops that’s a mistake. Not a compliment to Ross’ disposal I meantWayne42 wrote: ↑Sat 22 Jun 2019 10:25pmYes skeptic, i understood what you wrote, be miffed no longer.skeptic wrote: ↑Sat 22 Jun 2019 10:17pmI’m really miffed here...Saintmatt wrote: ↑Sat 22 Jun 2019 10:13pmPost of the year. Comfortably the worst starting midfielder in the AFL. Usual game high accumulation of meaningless possessions.Wayne42 wrote: ↑Sat 22 Jun 2019 9:44pmRoss wouldn't be capable of hitting the side of a barn, lace in or out.skeptic wrote: ↑Sat 22 Jun 2019 8:53pmFollow the thought process through...
Our best defender of the last few years is back after 8-9 months off injured...
Quick drop Nathan Brown and play Carlisle FORWARD!!! The hardest position on the ground that he’s not prepared for...
Imagine it... Acres wins a decisive hit out to Ross as he, Hannebery, and Armitage burn off their opponents and kick lace out to CARLISLE.
Oh Richo, you’ve done it again
Disgracefully one-sided VAFA level skills and even worse vision. And to think he’s our Captain.
Makes me sick.
You guys know that my post on Richo wasn’t a compliment right?
I commented on one aspect of it. I wanted to mention Ross and his woeful disposal.
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Re: No scoring power
Unfortunately they're not meaningless possessions...30 possies for Ross equals about 25 turnovers for the opposition!Saintmatt wrote: ↑Sat 22 Jun 2019 10:13pmPost of the year. Comfortably the worst starting midfielder in the AFL. Usual game high accumulation of meaningless possessions.Wayne42 wrote: ↑Sat 22 Jun 2019 9:44pmRoss wouldn't be capable of hitting the side of a barn, lace in or out.skeptic wrote: ↑Sat 22 Jun 2019 8:53pmFollow the thought process through...
Our best defender of the last few years is back after 8-9 months off injured...
Quick drop Nathan Brown and play Carlisle FORWARD!!! The hardest position on the ground that he’s not prepared for...
Imagine it... Acres wins a decisive hit out to Ross as he, Hannebery, and Armitage burn off their opponents and kick lace out to CARLISLE.
Oh Richo, you’ve done it again
Disgracefully one-sided VAFA level skills and even worse vision. And to think he’s our Captain.
Makes me sick.
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Re: No scoring power
It's either a crap number of F50's or if we do manage to get a decent number they are long bombs or miss the target by 20mts (width & height ?)
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Re: No scoring power
FUN FACT: if we fail to kick 100 points at least once this season, it will be the first season since 1960 we have failed to kick a century at least once.
And back in those days there was only 18 games in the Home and Away season so this may well be the first time in the history of the St Kilda Football Club that we fail to kick 100 points in a 22 game home and away season.
And back in those days there was only 18 games in the Home and Away season so this may well be the first time in the history of the St Kilda Football Club that we fail to kick 100 points in a 22 game home and away season.
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Re: No scoring power
It's not any better at the next level either...
St Kilda’s last 17 scores : 59, 80, 69, 68, 71, 70, 70, 68, 95, 74, 66, 76, 85, 94, 76, 79, 68.
Average : 74.59
Scores : 179.194
Accuracy : 48.3%
Highest Score : 95
Lowest Score : 59
Scores Over 100 : 0
Sandringham’s last 17 scores : 46, 63, 68, 80, 87, 56, 78, 92, 59, 65, 59, 52, 54, 47, 67, 69, 79.
Average : 62.88
Scores : 137.170
Accuracy : 44.6%
Highest Score : 92
Lowest Score : 46
Scores Over 100 : 0
St Kilda’s last 17 scores : 59, 80, 69, 68, 71, 70, 70, 68, 95, 74, 66, 76, 85, 94, 76, 79, 68.
Average : 74.59
Scores : 179.194
Accuracy : 48.3%
Highest Score : 95
Lowest Score : 59
Scores Over 100 : 0
Sandringham’s last 17 scores : 46, 63, 68, 80, 87, 56, 78, 92, 59, 65, 59, 52, 54, 47, 67, 69, 79.
Average : 62.88
Scores : 137.170
Accuracy : 44.6%
Highest Score : 92
Lowest Score : 46
Scores Over 100 : 0
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Re: No scoring power
In so far as they tell us via the media, it is not Richo that chooses Carlisle it is the medicos. If the medicos say he is good to go, they, the selection committee, plug a ‘1’ instead of a ‘0’ into their robot algorithm. In comes Carlisle.
I thought it was a stooge, ala Geelong style, and half expected a late change, and for Brown to come back in, which probably would have been better. We would still have lost, but we could partially blame Brown for it, and call him a lumbering dinosaur.
I thought it was a stooge, ala Geelong style, and half expected a late change, and for Brown to come back in, which probably would have been better. We would still have lost, but we could partially blame Brown for it, and call him a lumbering dinosaur.
You're quite brilliant Shane, yeah..terrific!
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Re: No scoring power
What do you expect when our entrances inside 50 metres rarely find a target. And then there's our chronic inaccuracy in kicking for goal. Richardson has to be held accountable for this. I mean, it has been an ongoing issue since 2014 and it still hasn't been amended.
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Re: No scoring power
The fact that our entrances inside 50 rarely find a target is a direct result of our gameplan and/or poor execution - both of which are Richo's fault as well as the poor goalkicking.Sainternist wrote: ↑Wed 26 Jun 2019 5:27pm What do you expect when our entrances inside 50 metres rarely find a target. And then there's our chronic inaccuracy in kicking for goal. Richardson has to be held accountable for this. I mean, it has been an ongoing issue since 2014 and it still hasn't been amended.
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Re: No scoring power
We're ahead of West Coast, Freo, Collingwood and Richmond for Clearances though.
I heard Dunstall talking about F50 entries the other day, and he referred to 'attacking' entries where you spot up a target, and 'defensive' entries where you bomb it up to the square and set up to hold the ball in.
Well, we all know only too well that Cho loves what Dunstall calls 'defensive' entries.
'Conservative' is what I'd call them. Like everything Cho does as a coach.
Conservative with selection, with his language, with his gane style.
The lack of scoring is because we're defensive even when we kick Inside 50 FFS!
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As far as I know, the medicos don't 'choose' a player, as such.shanegrambeau wrote: ↑Wed 26 Jun 2019 5:04pm In so far as they tell us via the media, it is not Richo that chooses Carlisle it is the medicos. If the medicos say he is good to go, they, the selection committee, plug a ‘1’ instead of a ‘0’ into their robot algorithm. In comes Carlisle.
They offer advice on whether or not he can re-injure himself, and whether his injury will get worse by playing.
The fitness guys offer advice on how much time they coyld handle, and at what level it would be at (ie. 60 minutes at only 90% capacity).
The Choach then selects him. Or not.
So being cleared by the medicos, is not a recommendation that he should play. Selection is on the coach.
They asked Hamill on radio last week whether Hannebury woyld play. He literally said 'it's up to whether Richo has seen enough from him or not'.
He killed the myth that Cho isn't behind selection at St Kilda. Cho chooses the team, based on what Hamill said.