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Hannebery unlikely to play AFL in first month of season
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Re: Hannebery unlikely to play AFL in first month of season
Posters that have admitted they were wrong about Hanna's gastro and the club didn't create a cover story.
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Re: Hannebery unlikely to play AFL in first month of season
Pretty certain if you were close enough to Dan when he signed the contract you would heard him whisper
Thanks Lethers that's my superannuation covered
In the meantime let's see how Dylan Shiel performs rnd1 this weekend
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Re: Hannebery unlikely to play AFL in first month of season
The whole situation is absolutely farcical.
Sydney clearly saw the writing on the wall and offloaded a cooked player taking up salary cap space to the first (and only) fool that came along.
How anyone can spin this as anything else but an absolute disaster is beyond me. This year is a write off for him, and if you think an injury plagued 29 year old is going to rebound to 800k form next year, you are delusional.
Sydney clearly saw the writing on the wall and offloaded a cooked player taking up salary cap space to the first (and only) fool that came along.
How anyone can spin this as anything else but an absolute disaster is beyond me. This year is a write off for him, and if you think an injury plagued 29 year old is going to rebound to 800k form next year, you are delusional.
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Re: Hannebery unlikely to play AFL in first month of season
NO.The_Dud wrote: ↑Fri 22 Mar 2019 10:24pm The whole situation is absolutely farcical.
Sydney clearly saw the writing on the wall and offloaded a cooked player taking up salary cap space to the first (and only) fool that came along.
How anyone can spin this as anything else but an absolute disaster is beyond me. This year is a write off for him, and if you think an injury plagued 29 year old is going to rebound to 800k form next year, you are delusional.
Wait until the end of 2023 before making the call.
He still might come good.
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Re: Hannebery unlikely to play AFL in first month of season
Except Dan was their best player last year in the finals.
IMO very naive to think a team is happy to offload their best finals player and in their leadership group.
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Re: Hannebery unlikely to play AFL in first month of season
I watched the final when Sydney were knocked out and Hannebery was abysmal.
Sydney would be deliriously happy and very relieved to offload him.
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Re: Hannebery unlikely to play AFL in first month of season
Alan Richardson says the Saints didn’t know the full extent of Dan Hannebery’s issues with his body
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ST KILDA concedes it didn't know the full extent of prized recruit Dan Hannebery's struggles with his body when it traded for him.
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Re: Hannebery unlikely to play AFL in first month of season
I love how people just make stuff up on here and hope nobody fact checks.
Firstly Sydney were knocked out week 1 of finals and were flogged.
Second Hannebery was not in the best
SYDNEY 1.4 2.4 2.6 4.6 (30)
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Giants: Greene 3, Cameron 2, Himmelberg 2, Coniglio, de Boer, Ward
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Re: Hannebery unlikely to play AFL in first month of season
"Dan Hannebery
If that was his final game for the Swans — he could be playing for a Victorian-based club next season — he can hold his head high. Worked tirelessly all game with a great balance between contested and uncontested ball. 7 " - Fox Sports (Ranking the highest of all Swans players)
Fox Sports, SEN and most other outlets had him in their best except AFL for some reason. Check it. 24 disposals, 98 fantasy points, copped a big whack (corky?) during the game but kept playing well. Will be a good addition for the club, not only due to skill and big game experience, but off the field as well.
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Re: Hannebery unlikely to play AFL in first month of season
I’m not against the Hannebery recruitment.
I was dead against giving up a high pick for an aged player on the decline, but thought we paid correct odds.
We have to pay (95%?) salary cap so it’s worth the punt for the next two years, not overly keen beyond that period.
Let’s run the course and see how it pans out before we call it a bust.
Claiming Hannebery is a bust before he has played is akin to claiming any of our recruits are or will be a success before they have kicked a ball in anger.
I was dead against giving up a high pick for an aged player on the decline, but thought we paid correct odds.
We have to pay (95%?) salary cap so it’s worth the punt for the next two years, not overly keen beyond that period.
Let’s run the course and see how it pans out before we call it a bust.
Claiming Hannebery is a bust before he has played is akin to claiming any of our recruits are or will be a success before they have kicked a ball in anger.
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Re: Hannebery unlikely to play AFL in first month of season
No-one can claim or call the Hannebery recruitment a bust - it's just that, as a yardstick $800k per annum for 5 years on a 29 year old whose body is showing obvious signs of wear is way over the (logical) mark.
On that scale, how much would we be willing to pay for a rampagingly healthy 24 or 25 year old Dangerfield say in his prime - $3 million per annum?
Is this what Geelong paid for him?
On that scale, how much would we be willing to pay for a rampagingly healthy 24 or 25 year old Dangerfield say in his prime - $3 million per annum?
Is this what Geelong paid for him?
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Re: Hannebery unlikely to play AFL in first month of season
Well, his 'body needs to be rebuilt' and 'the Saints didn’t know the full extent of Dan Hannebery’s issues with his body'.tedtheodorelogan2018 wrote: ↑Fri 22 Mar 2019 7:47pmI thought it was an induced coma at the Alfred. Lol
Sounds pretty bad to me.
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Re: Hannebery unlikely to play AFL in first month of season
There's a chance that 29 year old Hannebery might come good, who's to say? ...
but the point is while other clubs apply strict due diligence principles, what are we applying - undue negligence?
There's risk involved with Hanners, we're not talking about a footballer in his prime years or at the prime of their physical state - and so you need to weight the offer accordingly ... $800 k per annum over 5 years is way, way over the top.
There are healthy, younger footballers who are in their prime or whose stocks are on the rise that come along ... like Treloar, Shiel, Mitchell (hawks) etc... did they command $800k per annum?
These are the ones that I'd prefer us to chase.
but the point is while other clubs apply strict due diligence principles, what are we applying - undue negligence?
There's risk involved with Hanners, we're not talking about a footballer in his prime years or at the prime of their physical state - and so you need to weight the offer accordingly ... $800 k per annum over 5 years is way, way over the top.
There are healthy, younger footballers who are in their prime or whose stocks are on the rise that come along ... like Treloar, Shiel, Mitchell (hawks) etc... did they command $800k per annum?
These are the ones that I'd prefer us to chase.
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Re: Hannebery unlikely to play AFL in first month of season
Hannebury is 28 years of age and coming off two very ordinary, injury interrupted seasons.Joffa Burns wrote: ↑Sat 23 Mar 2019 10:34am I’m not against the Hannebery recruitment.
I was dead against giving up a high pick for an aged player on the decline, but thought we paid correct odds.
We have to pay (95%?) salary cap so it’s worth the punt for the next two years, not overly keen beyond that period.
Let’s run the course and see how it pans out before we call it a bust.
It's beyond obvious he is cooked and his body is no longer able to sustain the rigours of AFL.
This was obvious before he was recruited and the club have now admitted that they did not do due diligence.
In what universe is $800,000 a year for five years for an injury riddled 28 year old, correct odds?
Have performance based clauses been applied to each year of this slush fund contract?
I would bet there are none in the first four years.
In what universe is giving away what is likely to be either pick 19, 20 or 21 and 39 for pick 28, correct odds?
That's a completely ridiculous statement.Claiming Hannebery is a bust before he has played is akin to claiming any of our recruits are or will be a success before they have kicked a ball in anger.
To compare drafting Max King to Dan Hannebury and linking the two situations together is idiotic.
If you can't see the absolute obvious that Hannebery is a total bust right now then IMHO you're delusional.
I knew he would be a bust on the day he was recruited.
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Re: Hannebery unlikely to play AFL in first month of season
I called it a bust on the day Hannebery was recruited and still call it a bust now.
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Re: Hannebery unlikely to play AFL in first month of season
Aussie Jonestown wrote: ↑Sat 23 Mar 2019 11:14amHannebury is 28 years of age and coming off two very ordinary, injury interrupted seasons.Joffa Burns wrote: ↑Sat 23 Mar 2019 10:34am I’m not against the Hannebery recruitment.
I was dead against giving up a high pick for an aged player on the decline, but thought we paid correct odds.
We have to pay (95%?) salary cap so it’s worth the punt for the next two years, not overly keen beyond that period.
Let’s run the course and see how it pans out before we call it a bust.
It's beyond obvious he is cooked and his body is no longer able to sustain the rigours of AFL.
This was obvious before he was recruited and the club have now admitted that they did not do due diligence.
In what universe is $800,000 a year for five years for an injury riddled 28 year old, correct odds?
Have performance based clauses been applied to each year of this slush fund contract?
I would bet there are none in the first four years.
In what universe is giving away what is likely to be either pick 19, 20 or 21 and 39 for pick 28, correct odds?
That's a completely ridiculous statement.Claiming Hannebery is a bust before he has played is akin to claiming any of our recruits are or will be a success before they have kicked a ball in anger.
To compare drafting Max King to Dan Hannebury and linking the two situations together is idiotic.
If you can't see the absolute obvious that Hannebery is a total bust right now then IMHO you're delusional.
I knew he would be a bust on the day he was recruited.
Idiotic, ridiculous, delusional.
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Re: Hannebery unlikely to play AFL in first month of season
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Re: Hannebery unlikely to play AFL in first month of season
Apart from the dubious decision to recruit Hannebery in the first place, Richardson’s comments demonstrate that not too much has changed with him either. “He has to be re-built”......are you serious? What planet is this guy on if he thinks a 28 year old with chronic hamstring issues can be re-built to be an $800,000 a year player????
The self-delusion continues.
And they didn’t know the extent of it before recruiting him.. oh sweet Jesus.
The self-delusion continues.
And they didn’t know the extent of it before recruiting him.. oh sweet Jesus.
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Re: Hannebery unlikely to play AFL in first month of season
I'm not calling you an idiot.Joffa Burns wrote: ↑Sat 23 Mar 2019 11:23amAussie Jonestown wrote: ↑Sat 23 Mar 2019 11:14amHannebury is 28 years of age and coming off two very ordinary, injury interrupted seasons.Joffa Burns wrote: ↑Sat 23 Mar 2019 10:34am I’m not against the Hannebery recruitment.
I was dead against giving up a high pick for an aged player on the decline, but thought we paid correct odds.
We have to pay (95%?) salary cap so it’s worth the punt for the next two years, not overly keen beyond that period.
Let’s run the course and see how it pans out before we call it a bust.
It's beyond obvious he is cooked and his body is no longer able to sustain the rigours of AFL.
This was obvious before he was recruited and the club have now admitted that they did not do due diligence.
In what universe is $800,000 a year for five years for an injury riddled 28 year old, correct odds?
Have performance based clauses been applied to each year of this slush fund contract?
I would bet there are none in the first four years.
In what universe is giving away what is likely to be either pick 19, 20 or 21 and 39 for pick 28, correct odds?
That's a completely ridiculous statement.Claiming Hannebery is a bust before he has played is akin to claiming any of our recruits are or will be a success before they have kicked a ball in anger.
To compare drafting Max King to Dan Hannebury and linking the two situations together is idiotic.
If you can't see the absolute obvious that Hannebery is a total bust right now then IMHO you're delusional.
I knew he would be a bust on the day he was recruited.
Idiotic, ridiculous, delusional.
Lucky I am not a poster who reports to the moderator or I think you’d be enjoying a Saintsational holiday![]()
I believe you're not an idiot which is why I'm surprised by your statement I regard as idiotic.
I think you're assessment of the situation is delusional if you're not already aware of this farce being a total bust.
In what universe are they correct odds for Hannebury
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In what universe is it akin to comparing Hannebery to the other recruits?
ST KILDA concedes it didn't know the full extent of prized recruit Dan Hannebery's struggles with his body when it traded for him.
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Re: Hannebery unlikely to play AFL in first month of season
PRECISELYst.byron wrote: ↑Sat 23 Mar 2019 11:27am Apart from the dubious decision to recruit Hannebery in the first place, Richardson’s comments demonstrate that not too much has changed with him either. “He has to be re-built”......are you serious? What planet is this guy on if he thinks a 28 year old with chronic hamstring issues can be re-built to be an $800,000 a year player????
The self-delusion continues.
And they didn’t know the extent of it before recruiting him.. oh sweet Jesus.
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I hope we're not skimping on the rebuild, might have to throw an extra 2 million at the situation just to be sure.
ST KILDA concedes it didn't know the full extent of prized recruit Dan Hannebery's struggles with his body when it traded for him.
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Re: Hannebery unlikely to play AFL in first month of season
Forget the stats, I watched that game, Sydney got thumped its true. Still, Hannebery was awesome, in everything and kept them in it in the first half.GilsAuPair wrote: ↑Sat 23 Mar 2019 5:13amI love how people just make stuff up on here and hope nobody fact checks.
Firstly Sydney were knocked out week 1 of finals and were flogged.
Second Hannebery was not in the best
SYDNEY 1.4 2.4 2.6 4.6 (30)
GREATER WESTERN SYDNEY 2.3 4.7 7.11 10.19 (79)
GOALS
Sydney: Papley 2, Parker, Ronke
Giants: Greene 3, Cameron 2, Himmelberg 2, Coniglio, de Boer, Ward
BEST
Sydney: Kennedy, Parker, Heeny, Cunningham
Giants: Davis, Whitfield, Greene, Coniglio, Himmelberg, Ward, Haynes
https://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2018/24/syd-v-gws
He's not a bloke that will ever let you down in Finals. He was easily among Sydney's best that night, if not their best player.
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Re: Hannebery unlikely to play AFL in first month of season
Yeah rightoLinton Lodger wrote: ↑Sat 23 Mar 2019 6:31pmForget the stats, I watched that game, Sydney got thumped its true. Still, Hannebery was awesome, in everything and kept them in it in the first half.GilsAuPair wrote: ↑Sat 23 Mar 2019 5:13amI love how people just make stuff up on here and hope nobody fact checks.
Firstly Sydney were knocked out week 1 of finals and were flogged.
Second Hannebery was not in the best
SYDNEY 1.4 2.4 2.6 4.6 (30)
GREATER WESTERN SYDNEY 2.3 4.7 7.11 10.19 (79)
GOALS
Sydney: Papley 2, Parker, Ronke
Giants: Greene 3, Cameron 2, Himmelberg 2, Coniglio, de Boer, Ward
BEST
Sydney: Kennedy, Parker, Heeny, Cunningham
Giants: Davis, Whitfield, Greene, Coniglio, Himmelberg, Ward, Haynes
https://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2018/24/syd-v-gws
He's not a bloke that will ever let you down in Finals. He was easily among Sydney's best that night, if not their best player.
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Re: Hannebery unlikely to play AFL in first month of season
And, as stated early in the thread, was named in the best on many media outlets, including best player for Swans on Fox Sports. So it pays to check facts properly.GilsAuPair wrote: ↑Sat 23 Mar 2019 8:32pmYeah rightoLinton Lodger wrote: ↑Sat 23 Mar 2019 6:31pmForget the stats, I watched that game, Sydney got thumped its true. Still, Hannebery was awesome, in everything and kept them in it in the first half.GilsAuPair wrote: ↑Sat 23 Mar 2019 5:13amI love how people just make stuff up on here and hope nobody fact checks.
Firstly Sydney were knocked out week 1 of finals and were flogged.
Second Hannebery was not in the best
SYDNEY 1.4 2.4 2.6 4.6 (30)
GREATER WESTERN SYDNEY 2.3 4.7 7.11 10.19 (79)
GOALS
Sydney: Papley 2, Parker, Ronke
Giants: Greene 3, Cameron 2, Himmelberg 2, Coniglio, de Boer, Ward
BEST
Sydney: Kennedy, Parker, Heeny, Cunningham
Giants: Davis, Whitfield, Greene, Coniglio, Himmelberg, Ward, Haynes
https://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2018/24/syd-v-gws
He's not a bloke that will ever let you down in Finals. He was easily among Sydney's best that night, if not their best player.![]()
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Re: Hannebery unlikely to play AFL in first month of season
AR Quote 1 "He needs to be rebuilt"
AR Quote 2 "He won't be playing for the Saints any time soon"
Enrico Quote "Congrats to our best of class recruitment team and their cutting edge due diligence procedures"
AR Quote 2 "He won't be playing for the Saints any time soon"
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