Mav names in Tigers team

[Joffa Burns]

Wow, delisted by the saints and named on HFF for the Tigers in round one.

Got to hand it to Mav, must have trained the house down.

Good luck to him

[guitars4]

Wow, delisted by the saints and named on HFF for the Tigers in round one.

Got to hand it to Mav, must have trained the house down.

Good luck to him

100% agree I hope he does well

[Jacks Back]

Was Goddard named for Carlton?

[stonecold]

Go Mav, just proving what some on here really know about the game and it's role players, nothing!!!!!

Go well!!!!!

[skeptic]

Go Mav, just proving what some on here really know about the game and it's role players, nothing!!!!!

Go well!!!!!

But the coach nailed it right

[Shaggy]

Go Mav, just proving what some on here really know about the game and it's role players, nothing!!!!!

Go well!!!!!

But the coach nailed it right

Really?

The general consensus based on threads i have read on Saintsational was that Richo plays favorites and that is the only reason Mav got a game. Clearly that is now false.

Mav getting a game for Richmond simply shows that StKilda has serious depth. We lack at the top end.

[saintsRrising]

Mav getting a game for Richmond simply shows that StKilda has serious depth. We lack at the top end.

Indeed.. .

Last year it was just Steven and Carlisle. Way too little cream.

Coaching wise


This year the cream is still thin. Thinner with Carlisle out, and Hanna seemingly out for a bit too.

Coaching wise. Well I personally like Rats, but....


You can keep swapping players like Weller, Lonie and many others in and out and it makes little difference. They are all capable of supporting good players, that is if you have them.

[skeptic]

Go Mav, just proving what some on here really know about the game and it's role players, nothing!!!!!

Go well!!!!!

But the coach nailed it right

Really?

The general consensus based on threads i have read on Saintsational was that Richo plays favorites and that is the only reason Mav got a game. Clearly that is now false.

Mav getting a game for Richmond simply shows that StKilda has serious depth. We lack at the top end.

I really don’t know what to say to this? Is the argument really that Mav was doing his part but the problem was a lack of players to make his performance not look as bad?

How exactly did you rate Mav’s last 2 seasons

[Shaggy]

Really?

The general consensus based on threads i have read on Saintsational was that Richo plays favorites and that is the only reason Mav got a game. Clearly that is now false.

Mav getting a game for Richmond simply shows that StKilda has serious depth. We lack at the top end.

I really don’t know what to say to this? Is the argument really that Mav was doing his part but the problem was a lack of players to make his performance not look as bad?

The argument is that Richmond picked up Mav after he was de-listed because he can play football and he is now likely to play round 1. He was not drafted by Richmond because he is the coach's favourite. He was drafted because he can play football even though some Saint's supporters disagree.

[skeptic]

Really?

The general consensus based on threads i have read on Saintsational was that Richo plays favorites and that is the only reason Mav got a game. Clearly that is now false.

Mav getting a game for Richmond simply shows that StKilda has serious depth. We lack at the top end.

I really don’t know what to say to this? Is the argument really that Mav was doing his part but the problem was a lack of players to make his performance not look as bad?

The argument is that Richmond picked up Mav after he was de-listed because he can play football and he is now likely to play round 1. He was not drafted by Richmond because he is the coach's favourite. He was drafted because he can play football even though some Saint's supporters disagree.

And how did you rate his form over the last 2 years?

Are you even reading what ur typing? How is it that Richo seemingly gets credit for playing him all along and no criticism for delisting this ready made all of a sudden good player.

[skeptic]

And just to add...

Richmond making Mav earn his spot and rewarding good form does not in anyway validate how Richo coached him

[Yorkeys]

Richmond have a number of injuries. Depth player and can try to do the role thing by leaving the forward line clear for Lynch/Reiwoldt. Despite our circumstances its hard to see where MW would fit in the Saints forward set up, if only because we need a goal(s) from all.

[CQ SAINT]

He always was a bit of a tiger.

[Joffa Burns]

Go Mav, just proving what some on here really know about the game and it's role players, nothing!!!!!

Go well!!!!!

Is your opinion the coach made a mistake delisting Mav?

[Joffa Burns]

Go Mav, just proving what some on here really know about the game and it's role players, nothing!!!!!

Go well!!!!!

But the coach nailed it right

Really?

The general consensus based on threads i have read on Saintsational was that Richo plays favorites and that is the only reason Mav got a game. Clearly that is now false.

Mav getting a game for Richmond simply shows that StKilda has serious depth. We lack at the top end.

I really don’t know what to say to this? Is the argument really that Mav was doing his part but the problem was a lack of players to make his performance not look as bad?

How exactly did you rate Mav’s last 2 seasons

Perhaps con has a theory on Dimma and why Mav has been selected?

[stonecold]

Go Mav, just proving what some on here really know about the game and it's role players, nothing!!!!!

Go well!!!!!

Is your opinion the coach made a mistake delisting Mav?

We just have younger 'role players' with more upside in that position now!!!!!

[skeptic]

Go Mav, just proving what some on here really know about the game and it's role players, nothing!!!!!

Go well!!!!!

Is your opinion the coach made a mistake delisting Mav?

We just have younger 'role players' with more upside in that position now!!!!!

Two questions SCSO...
Do you think he was playing well for us and would you have extended his contract?

[saynta]

Told ya.

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[skeptic]

This forum is so weird sometimes...

So now it was a mistake to delist Weller.
The coach was right all along to play him and was also right to delist him
His form over the last 2 years was brilliant apparently
The fans critical of his form know nothing

Yet those sticking it to the critical majority are suspiciously quiet on the topic of would they have extended his contract and how was his form

George Orwell would have an absolute field day here... very definition of double think


Any logical person would surely conclude that if Mav goes to Richmond and starts burning it up and playing to a standard that he couldn’t achieve in the last 2 years here, it would be a bad reflection on our development...
But nooooooooooo. Here on SS the reason a player that was on the list for 4-5 years and couldn’t play to the necessary standard is because we don’t have enough better players to make him look good.


What qualities did Tom Hickey lack that stopped him from being an elite ruck... apparently none. The problem was he needed 3 Chris Judds in the midfield...
SOMEBODY FIND ME A RUCKMEN THAT COMES EQUIPPED WITH 3 CHRIS JUDDS

[Bernard Shakey]

Depth player.
They have injuries.

We made the right decision!

[Scollop]

This forum is so weird sometimes...

So now it was a mistake to delist Weller.
The coach was right all along to play him and was also right to delist him
His form over the last 2 years was brilliant apparently
The fans critical of his form know nothing

Yet those sticking it to the critical majority are suspiciously quiet on the topic of would they have extended his contract and how was his form

George Orwell would have an absolute field day here... very definition of double think


Any logical person would surely conclude that if Mav goes to Richmond and starts burning it up and playing to a standard that he couldn’t achieve in the last 2 years here, it would be a bad reflection on our development...
But nooooooooooo. Here on SS the reason a player that was on the list for 4-5 years and couldn’t play to the necessary standard is because we don’t have enough better players to make him look good.


What qualities did Tom Hickey lack that stopped him from being an elite ruck... apparently none. The problem was he needed 3 Chris Judds in the midfield...
SOMEBODY FIND ME A RUCKMEN THAT COMES EQUIPPED WITH 3 CHRIS JUDDS

I've stated at least 3-4 times over the last 2 years that Mav Weller at his best, and when fit would have been easily in our best 22 IF we were playing finals. I reckon one of the main problems with the way he was played was that the coach expected him to perform at his best when he had injuries or had niggles that required managing. The coach was too easily swayed by guys like Roo and other senior players who demanded a game even when they were not fit to play. Fans were questioning Mav's impact and his value instead of looking at what he could offer at his best and how he could be utilised and managed to GIVE his best.

There was this belief that we had a chance to make the finals so it came at the expense of the development of our list over the last 3 years, imo. Mav was one of our toughest bash and crash players who needed to be manged rather than playing 22 games in home and away rounds. Richo was reluctant to test the depth of the list because he was reluctant to play younger guys. This came at the expense of the development of the team and the performance of the team as a whole throughout 2017 and 2018. So, you'd get the situation where Mav was not 100% fit and the coaches and footy department were so desperate to get wins on the board in the short term that they sacrificed what was best for the future to look after their own self interest.

It backfired for the coach and his team's performances and for certain individuals in the team. If we were any chance of playing finals in the next 3 years perhaps Mav Weller would still be on our list. I think the Saints realised at some point during our disastrous 2018 that we need a rebuild of sorts and some of our more senior guys needed to be delisted. I hope at some stage this year they come out and declare that we are rebuilding and we can get fair dinkum about restructuring the list.

[Joffa Burns]

This forum is so weird sometimes...

So now it was a mistake to delist Weller.
The coach was right all along to play him and was also right to delist him
His form over the last 2 years was brilliant apparently
The fans critical of his form know nothing

Yet those sticking it to the critical majority are suspiciously quiet on the topic of would they have extended his contract and how was his form

George Orwell would have an absolute field day here... very definition of double think


Any logical person would surely conclude that if Mav goes to Richmond and starts burning it up and playing to a standard that he couldn’t achieve in the last 2 years here, it would be a bad reflection on our development...
But nooooooooooo. Here on SS the reason a player that was on the list for 4-5 years and couldn’t play to the necessary standard is because we don’t have enough better players to make him look good.


What qualities did Tom Hickey lack that stopped him from being an elite ruck... apparently none. The problem was he needed 3 Chris Judds in the midfield...
SOMEBODY FIND ME A RUCKMEN THAT COMES EQUIPPED WITH 3 CHRIS JUDDS

I think axing Mav was the right call.
Does it mean he can’t go on and be successful at the Tigers? Not at all.

One mans trash is another’s treasure!

I’m not surprised Mav has made an immediate impact, my query is his ability to maintain the standard required to hold his position and still be on the list in 2 years time.

[skeptic]

This forum is so weird sometimes...

So now it was a mistake to delist Weller.
The coach was right all along to play him and was also right to delist him
His form over the last 2 years was brilliant apparently
The fans critical of his form know nothing

Yet those sticking it to the critical majority are suspiciously quiet on the topic of would they have extended his contract and how was his form

George Orwell would have an absolute field day here... very definition of double think


Any logical person would surely conclude that if Mav goes to Richmond and starts burning it up and playing to a standard that he couldn’t achieve in the last 2 years here, it would be a bad reflection on our development...
But nooooooooooo. Here on SS the reason a player that was on the list for 4-5 years and couldn’t play to the necessary standard is because we don’t have enough better players to make him look good.


What qualities did Tom Hickey lack that stopped him from being an elite ruck... apparently none. The problem was he needed 3 Chris Judds in the midfield...
SOMEBODY FIND ME A RUCKMEN THAT COMES EQUIPPED WITH 3 CHRIS JUDDS

I've stated at least 3-4 times over the last 2 years that Mav Weller at his best, and when fit would be one of my first picks IF we were playing finals. I reckon one of the main problems with the way he was played was that the coach expected him to perform at his best when he had injuries or had niggles that required managing. The coach was too easily swayed by guys like Roo and other senior players who demanded a game even when they were not fit to play. Fans were questioning Mav's impact and his value instead of looking at what he could offer at his best and how he could be utilised and managed to GIVE his best.

There was this belief that we had a chance to make the finals so it came at the expense of the development of our list over the last 3 years, imo. Mav was one of our toughest bash and crash players who needed to be manged rather than playing 22 games in home and away rounds. Richo was reluctant to test the depth of the list because he was reluctant to play younger guys. This came at the expense of the development of the team and the performance of the team as a whole throughout 2017 and 2018. So, you'd get the situation where Mav was not 100% fit and the coaches and footy department were so desperate to get wins on the board in the short term that they sacrificed what was best for the future to look after their own self interest.

It backfired for the coach and his team's performances and for certain individuals in the team. If we were any chance of playing finals in the next 3 years perhaps Mav Weller would still be on our list. I think the Saints realised at some point during our disastrous 2018 that we need a rebuild of sorts and some of our more senior guys needed to be delisted. I hope at some stage this year they come out and declare that we are rebuilding and we can get fair dinkum about restructuring the list.

I think that’s a fantastically insightful post

[saynta]

As Roos stated. Good on Weller. Delisted from the two clubs tipped to finish on the bottom of the ladder and pick to play round one for the best team in the competition.

I think we all knew Mav could play. He just didn't perform at the required level the past two years.

I don't have a problem with the Saints for delisting him.

[Scollop]

If you have any doubts about what Mav could offer at his best, watch the match from last year when we drew with GWS in the early rounds. Mav had a huge impact and I reckon he would have been maybe in the ten or 12 best players for our team. Also in the best on ground for us were B White, N Coffield, B Acres and some bloke called Hickey. Hopefully the ones remaining at St Kilda get more opportunities in 2019 and are given more responsibility to show what they can offer rather than be lost to other clubs like Hickey and Weller