Who starts as our Ruckman?
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Re: Who starts as our Ruckman?
A Pierce / Marshall combo will do me. Fingers crossed Alabakis shows enough at training and in the twos to get a game later in the year.
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Re: Who starts as our Ruckman?
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Re: Who starts as our Ruckman?
Gresh would contribute more in the ruck than Bill, so hopefully they start with Pierce!
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Re: Who starts as our Ruckman?
Entitled to your opinion, although it does highlight your total lack of knowledge on Ruckwork again!!!!!
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Re: Who starts as our Ruckman?
Longer. Pearce and Marshall not ready yet.
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Re: Who starts as our Ruckman?
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Re: Who starts as our Ruckman?
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Re: Who starts as our Ruckman?
Lewis and Marshall as backup.
Longer shouldn't even get a look unless both are injured
Longer shouldn't even get a look unless both are injured
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Re: Who starts as our Ruckman?
Pierce has been on the list for seven years and he's not ready yet? Marshall was rucking against grown men in the VFL before Mason Cox was playing, so if not now; when?
However, I actually agree with you. Neither Marshall, nor Pierce dominated when they were given their chance in the final six rounds and we lost every single game during that time, which doesn't bode well for the future, and really does say a lot about where we have been for a while. Roo, Joey, Gilbo and Shinner covered over the cracks in 2015-17, for mine.
Marshall can play up forward though.
Stoney - honest question; if Hickey really develops at the Eagles and can hold down a ruck role there, do you think Billy might look at a change of clubs at the end of 2019 to get to a club which offers ruck coaching and development opportunities to help him meet his full potential? Because I think I probably might if I was him.
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Re: Who starts as our Ruckman?
Marshall is a lock in the team as a key position players that pinch hits in the ruck.
Outside of that Iโm happy with either Longer or Pierce provided theyโre picked on form.
That said, surely Longer gets first crack
Outside of that Iโm happy with either Longer or Pierce provided theyโre picked on form.
That said, surely Longer gets first crack
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Re: Who starts as our Ruckman?
It has to be Longer, the best tap ruckman of an ordinary trio.
Marshall is the best around the ground option to chop out each quarter, but spend more time drifting forward and back, which Longer doesn't have the tank to do and even if he did he can't take a mark!
Pierce is second choice, but has similar issues to Longer re tank and marking.
Marshall is the best around the ground option to chop out each quarter, but spend more time drifting forward and back, which Longer doesn't have the tank to do and even if he did he can't take a mark!
Pierce is second choice, but has similar issues to Longer re tank and marking.
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Re: Who starts as our Ruckman?
Agreed.darylcowie wrote: โWed 16 Jan 2019 4:17pm It has to be Longer, the best tap ruckman of an ordinary trio.
Marshall is the best around the ground option to chop out each quarter, but spend more time drifting forward and back, which Longer doesn't have the tank to do and even if he did he can't take a mark!
Pierce is second choice, but has similar issues to Longer re tank and marking.
My hope would be that if Longer doesnโt improve markedly that Pierce will get the opportunity for an extended run for development like Billy has
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Re: Who starts as our Ruckman?
Hickey was a dud..played 3 good games GWS and Melb only averaged 1-2 marks per game normally on his own and surprised if he was in a position to take a pack mark.skeptic wrote: โWed 16 Jan 2019 6:00pmAgreed.darylcowie wrote: โWed 16 Jan 2019 4:17pm It has to be Longer, the best tap ruckman of an ordinary trio.
Marshall is the best around the ground option to chop out each quarter, but spend more time drifting forward and back, which Longer doesn't have the tank to do and even if he did he can't take a mark!
Pierce is second choice, but has similar issues to Longer re tank and marking.
My hope would be that if Longer doesnโt improve markedly that Pierce will get the opportunity for an extended run for development like Billy has
The problem on this site, everyone remembers his good games and because he's been out injured so often he's not around to change people's thoughts.
He will play early for westcoast until he exposes his inefficiencies. Won't last long..
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Re: Who starts as our Ruckman?
Ben McGlynn said today at the closed training session that Billy is currently firmly the first choice ruck - also said keep an eye on Marshall, didn't say much on Pierce.
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Re: Who starts as our Ruckman?
Why are you quoting my post... I was talking about Longer and Pierce. Billy deserves first crack and needs to improve. If not I hope Pierce is given a fair go to stake his claim.Freebird wrote: โWed 16 Jan 2019 6:26pmHickey was a dud..played 3 good games GWS and Melb only averaged 1-2 marks per game normally on his own and surprised if he was in a position to take a pack mark.skeptic wrote: โWed 16 Jan 2019 6:00pmAgreed.darylcowie wrote: โWed 16 Jan 2019 4:17pm It has to be Longer, the best tap ruckman of an ordinary trio.
Marshall is the best around the ground option to chop out each quarter, but spend more time drifting forward and back, which Longer doesn't have the tank to do and even if he did he can't take a mark!
Pierce is second choice, but has similar issues to Longer re tank and marking.
My hope would be that if Longer doesnโt improve markedly that Pierce will get the opportunity for an extended run for development like Billy has
The problem on this site, everyone remembers his good games and because he's been out injured so often he's not around to change people's thoughts.
He will play early for westcoast until he exposes his inefficiencies. Won't last long..
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Re: Who starts as our Ruckman?
Is this the breakout year for the No. 8 DP?Raph Goat Clarke wrote: โWed 16 Jan 2019 7:08pm Ben McGlynn said today at the closed training session that Billy is currently firmly the first choice ruck - also said keep an eye on Marshall, didn't say much on Pierce.
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Re: Who starts as our Ruckman?
Depends on Billy staying sound and improving around the ground play. May be first pick against other very large rucks but not necessarily so against lesser behemoths. A dilemma for the club is how to give Lewis a fair go and develop whatever talent he has while Billy is first choice. History shows Billy gets regularly injured possibly due to his hard physical style of play and limited natural athleticism. Alternate ruck contestants will be interesting. Marshall may become second ruck while otherwise lurking forward, while Billy beats the opposition rucks into submission. There may also be a policy of managing the rucks so Lewis as a relief pitcher keeps Billy fresh and fills in if he isn't 100%. Wouldn't be surprised if Lewis over took Billy later in the year, but. In any case you would get astronomical odds on Billy ever being in a premiership team. Of course ironically Tom H is already playing for the current premiers.
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Re: Who starts as our Ruckman?
I must have watched a different Hickey. Actually, I checked the stats and it seems I did watch a different Hickey.Freebird wrote: โWed 16 Jan 2019 6:26pmHickey was a dud..played 3 good games GWS and Melb only averaged 1-2 marks per game normally on his own and surprised if he was in a position to take a pack mark.skeptic wrote: โWed 16 Jan 2019 6:00pmAgreed.darylcowie wrote: โWed 16 Jan 2019 4:17pm It has to be Longer, the best tap ruckman of an ordinary trio.
Marshall is the best around the ground option to chop out each quarter, but spend more time drifting forward and back, which Longer doesn't have the tank to do and even if he did he can't take a mark!
Pierce is second choice, but has similar issues to Longer re tank and marking.
My hope would be that if Longer doesnโt improve markedly that Pierce will get the opportunity for an extended run for development like Billy has
The problem on this site, everyone remembers his good games and because he's been out injured so often he's not around to change people's thoughts.
He will play early for westcoast until he exposes his inefficiencies. Won't last long..
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Re: Who starts as our Ruckman?
You and your stats Kossi!!!!!kosifantutti wrote: โWed 16 Jan 2019 10:37pmI must have watched a different Hickey. Actually, I checked the stats and it seems I did watch a different Hickey.Freebird wrote: โWed 16 Jan 2019 6:26pmHickey was a dud..played 3 good games GWS and Melb only averaged 1-2 marks per game normally on his own and surprised if he was in a position to take a pack mark.skeptic wrote: โWed 16 Jan 2019 6:00pmAgreed.darylcowie wrote: โWed 16 Jan 2019 4:17pm It has to be Longer, the best tap ruckman of an ordinary trio.
Marshall is the best around the ground option to chop out each quarter, but spend more time drifting forward and back, which Longer doesn't have the tank to do and even if he did he can't take a mark!
Pierce is second choice, but has similar issues to Longer re tank and marking.
My hope would be that if Longer doesnโt improve markedly that Pierce will get the opportunity for an extended run for development like Billy has
The problem on this site, everyone remembers his good games and because he's been out injured so often he's not around to change people's thoughts.
He will play early for westcoast until he exposes his inefficiencies. Won't last long..
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Re: Who starts as our Ruckman?
I would give Sam Alambakis first crack. He just smashed his 3km PB by more than a minute.
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