I cannot believe we are going to recruit.....
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Re: I cannot believe we are going to recruit.....
People seem to forget that we have later picks in the draft that we can use on outside mids and it is more likely to get a quality mid than forward later in the draft. Look at this years Trevor Barker podium. were any first round picks?
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Re: I cannot believe we are going to recruit.....
I can't find your post from 2014.ListManager wrote: ↑Tue 20 Nov 2018 5:15pmLike I said back in 2014, I would not risk pick 1 on a diabetic. If I was using pick 40 and above then it's a different story. I would probably risk it.Viscount Jeremiah wrote: ↑Tue 20 Nov 2018 1:13pmCalm down.ListManager wrote: ↑Tue 20 Nov 2018 8:32am Max King. Didn't our stupid club learn anything from the McCartin experience.? FFS, we need elite MIDFIELDERS . James Gallagher and Libba should be removed from their positions if they do this.
What make you think he won't be a gun? he was the likely no 1 pick before injury. Remember he hasn't played at all this year and hes still a top 5 certainty.
Now it's 2018 and I am saying I would not risk pick 4 on someone that has already had a knee reconstruction. If we could get him with a pick in the 30's I would risk it but not pick 4.
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Re: I cannot believe we are going to recruit.....
If we take Max King at 4 it is dollars to donuts that Gold Coast will take Ben King at 6 as a replacement for May.
That plays in to our hands.
In a few years time Ben gets jack of Gold Coast and wants to come home.
Guess which club Ben nominates.
Not Norf or Carlscum or Filth or Dawks
We end up with top class book ends.
We don't need the third choice of this year's midfielders.
We can have first choice of the midfielders next year.
That plays in to our hands.
In a few years time Ben gets jack of Gold Coast and wants to come home.
Guess which club Ben nominates.
Not Norf or Carlscum or Filth or Dawks
We end up with top class book ends.
We don't need the third choice of this year's midfielders.
We can have first choice of the midfielders next year.
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Re: I cannot believe we are going to recruit.....
We need 22 quality players.
Unfortunately the AFL is unlikely to give us the first 22 picks in a draft in the near future.
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Re: I cannot believe we are going to recruit.....
Who else do we have to give Geelong to take him off our hands.magnifisaint wrote: ↑Tue 20 Nov 2018 1:54pm It would be great for McCartin if the Saints recruited King. He would need to extract the digit. It also gives the Saints the opportunity to trade him to the Cats for a midfielder next year.
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Re: I cannot believe we are going to recruit.....
Whether they like it or not we are in for a total rebuild.Scollop wrote: ↑Tue 20 Nov 2018 12:03pm What is really faarked is that we don't know what the CEO and footy boss are thinking.
Are we in full rebuild mode or are we still trying to delude ourselves that with the addition of 2-3 new players we are going to catapult ourselves into finals?
If we bite the bullet and do a full rebuild, then best option imo is Max King if he's available.
Our window is broken, we a need a new frame before we can put some glass in it.
Someone has built a brick wall in front of our window, not naming any fish in particular but definitely a fresh water one.
We have to demolish that first.
A long way from opening the window.
I can't guarantee that I will live too many more decades so get it right this time.
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When I was a young child, I knew that I knew so much about so much.
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If you are not engaging AI actively and aggressively, you are doing it wrong.
You are not going to lose your job to AI.
You are going lose your job to somebody who uses AI.
Your company is not going to go out of business because of AI.
Your company is going to go out of business because another company used AI.
- Jensen Huang, CEO of NVIDIA
When I was a young child, I knew that I knew so much about so much.
Now that I am old and know so much more, I know that I know so much about so little, and so little about so much.
If you are not engaging AI actively and aggressively, you are doing it wrong.
You are not going to lose your job to AI.
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Your company is not going to go out of business because of AI.
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Re: I cannot believe we are going to recruit.....
Weaknesses:
Endurance
Work rate
Rarely pushes up outside the forward 50m arc
Conversion in front of goal
same weaknesses as Paddy?
Endurance
Work rate
Rarely pushes up outside the forward 50m arc
Conversion in front of goal
same weaknesses as Paddy?
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Re: I cannot believe we are going to recruit.....
Yet Paddy does push up outside 50
The Devil makes work for idle hands!!!
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Re: I cannot believe we are going to recruit.....
Can people please stop referring to Caldwell's hammy as being an issue when Max has done a knee.
I can imagine that if Max does his knee again it will be those supporters that want him now who will be the ones that will want to burn down the club for recruiting him.
I can imagine that if Max does his knee again it will be those supporters that want him now who will be the ones that will want to burn down the club for recruiting him.
The Devil makes work for idle hands!!!
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Re: I cannot believe we are going to recruit.....
BTW I have no issue with taking Max
Especially when his brother is likely to request a trade to us a couple of years down the track![Twisted Evil :twisted:](./images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif)
Especially when his brother is likely to request a trade to us a couple of years down the track
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Re: I cannot believe we are going to recruit.....
In five years time, you'll all be proved wrong.
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Re: I cannot believe we are going to recruit.....
I've watched all the highlights videos. (What else can one do as a proper armchair expert?)
I've also read all the praises heaped on King.
Now can someone please point me to footage, any footage, that backs these claims up?
I've seen a bloke much taller than his opponents, yet what I have not seen is...
- contested marks
- good kicking for goal
- long kicking
- busting tackles
- dodging blokes
- running bounces...
Apart from question marks about being able to bulk up much given his build, what I want to know is...
if King isn't doing the above against much smaller kids, what makes people think he'll suddenly (hell, eventually would be good enough for me) be able to do these things against seasoned adult AFL bodies????
Seriously Saintsationalists! Look at the strike rate of super tall highly touted junior age footballers. Not pretty reading.
Also, look at Luksious. Try to picture his translation to senior AFL. I can't see a once-in-a-life-time-player there. More like Jack Watts Mk 2. (Minus the soft, lazy FIGJAM 'qualities' though.) And Lukocius may well run around like Roo, but, Roo also took contested marks.
I don't recall Lukocious taking a single contested mark(?) Or doing any of the other stuff that King doesn't do... against kids.
We have forwards. Bruce, Marshall, Members', Battle, and Snowy pinch hitting. (Yes, I left you-know-whom out. Should he prove me wrong and come good, that's a bonus. A bonus that could push us to a flag.) And we have the goal sneaks. Gresh, Long, and Billings, Sinclair, Jack S pinch hitting.
What we don't have is the mid field talent to get that football to our forwards... often and enough, and reasonably accurately enough.
And I don't get the lack of love for Smith(?) Inside, outside, good field and on-goal kick, decent pace, and, as determined as anyone. Smith and/or Rankine are the ones we want!
IMHO, we really need to do two things here.
- Look at what the player has that would allow him to (very) successfully transition to playing against men.
- Look at the draft history re touted gun forwards taken high in the draft - especially really tall ones.
Anyway, I'm happy to watch some footage that may allay my concerns.
I've also read all the praises heaped on King.
Now can someone please point me to footage, any footage, that backs these claims up?
I've seen a bloke much taller than his opponents, yet what I have not seen is...
- contested marks
- good kicking for goal
- long kicking
- busting tackles
- dodging blokes
- running bounces...
Apart from question marks about being able to bulk up much given his build, what I want to know is...
if King isn't doing the above against much smaller kids, what makes people think he'll suddenly (hell, eventually would be good enough for me) be able to do these things against seasoned adult AFL bodies????
Seriously Saintsationalists! Look at the strike rate of super tall highly touted junior age footballers. Not pretty reading.
![Embarassed :oops:](./images/smilies/icon_redface.gif)
Also, look at Luksious. Try to picture his translation to senior AFL. I can't see a once-in-a-life-time-player there. More like Jack Watts Mk 2. (Minus the soft, lazy FIGJAM 'qualities' though.) And Lukocius may well run around like Roo, but, Roo also took contested marks.
![Idea :idea:](./images/smilies/icon_idea.gif)
![Idea :idea:](./images/smilies/icon_idea.gif)
We have forwards. Bruce, Marshall, Members', Battle, and Snowy pinch hitting. (Yes, I left you-know-whom out. Should he prove me wrong and come good, that's a bonus. A bonus that could push us to a flag.) And we have the goal sneaks. Gresh, Long, and Billings, Sinclair, Jack S pinch hitting.
What we don't have is the mid field talent to get that football to our forwards... often and enough, and reasonably accurately enough.
![Idea :idea:](./images/smilies/icon_idea.gif)
And I don't get the lack of love for Smith(?) Inside, outside, good field and on-goal kick, decent pace, and, as determined as anyone. Smith and/or Rankine are the ones we want!
IMHO, we really need to do two things here.
- Look at what the player has that would allow him to (very) successfully transition to playing against men.
- Look at the draft history re touted gun forwards taken high in the draft - especially really tall ones.
Anyway, I'm happy to watch some footage that may allay my concerns.
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Re: I cannot believe we are going to recruit.....
But he doesn't get back into the forward line in time
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Re: I cannot believe we are going to recruit.....
Caro reporting that GCS has rejected our offer to trade pick 4 for 6 and 26.
Reckons we are into Smith and think we can get him at 6.
Reckons we are into Smith and think we can get him at 6.
Nee!
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Re: I cannot believe we are going to recruit.....
Perfectly said Devilhead!!!!! No way would I use pick 4 on a player that has already done his knee. No offence to Max King.Devilhead wrote: ↑Tue 20 Nov 2018 9:09pm Can people please stop referring to Caldwell's hammy as being an issue when Max has done a knee.
I can imagine that if Max does his knee again it will be those supporters that want him now who will be the ones that will want to burn down the club for recruiting him.
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Re: I cannot believe we are going to recruit.....
Well we couldn't get him in the 30s or we would, lets face it if we didn't take him at 4 he was gone at 5.ListManager wrote: ↑Tue 20 Nov 2018 5:15pmLike I said back in 2014, I would not risk pick 1 on a diabetic. If I was using pick 40 and above then it's a different story. I would probably risk it.Viscount Jeremiah wrote: ↑Tue 20 Nov 2018 1:13pmCalm down.ListManager wrote: ↑Tue 20 Nov 2018 8:32am Max King. Didn't our stupid club learn anything from the McCartin experience.? FFS, we need elite MIDFIELDERS . James Gallagher and Libba should be removed from their positions if they do this.
What make you think he won't be a gun? he was the likely no 1 pick before injury. Remember he hasn't played at all this year and hes still a top 5 certainty.
Now it's 2018 and I am saying I would not risk pick 4 on someone that has already had a knee reconstruction. If we could get him with a pick in the 30's I would risk it but not pick 4.
His knee will be fine by round 1 next year. Yes there is a higher chance of a recurrent knee injury's in the general population however the rate is much less in athletes as they tend to properly rehab the injury.