If Adelaide offer us picks 8 &15 for pick 4
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Re: If Adelaide offer us picks 8 &15 for pick 4
I wouldn't want us to downgrade our picks that far. I didn't really understand the previous downgrading of picks we made in this draft, when we swapped an early 20's pick for a late 20's and mid 30's pick.
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Re: If Adelaide offer us picks 8 &15 for pick 4
Assuming pundits are correct and order is;
1. Walsh - Carlton
2. Lukosius - GC
3. Rankine - GC
4. Roozee - ???
There are really only two deals of interest to us.
GC - want the 3 SA lads to limit go home factor.
PA - want #4 to get the SA lad assuming GC take the other two.
PA - potentially #5 & #15 for #4 and #36 if we are lucky.
Could get King or Smith depending who they want @ #5 & maybe Caldwell @ #15 if they like him.
This would be a stretch but PA may go for it if they think we will trade with GC to allow GC to get the SA boy.
GC - #6 + #24 + #29 for Saints #4 + #36 + #46
would still land either King or Smith (if they are our target) and upgrade later picks quite significantly.
I know nothing about it as I haven't seen the kids play.
But we need mids and I like what I have read about Smith and Caldwell and seen in highlights.
A deal with PA and these two @ #6 & #15 seems a dream outcome.
1. Walsh - Carlton
2. Lukosius - GC
3. Rankine - GC
4. Roozee - ???
There are really only two deals of interest to us.
GC - want the 3 SA lads to limit go home factor.
PA - want #4 to get the SA lad assuming GC take the other two.
PA - potentially #5 & #15 for #4 and #36 if we are lucky.
Could get King or Smith depending who they want @ #5 & maybe Caldwell @ #15 if they like him.
This would be a stretch but PA may go for it if they think we will trade with GC to allow GC to get the SA boy.
GC - #6 + #24 + #29 for Saints #4 + #36 + #46
would still land either King or Smith (if they are our target) and upgrade later picks quite significantly.
I know nothing about it as I haven't seen the kids play.
But we need mids and I like what I have read about Smith and Caldwell and seen in highlights.
A deal with PA and these two @ #6 & #15 seems a dream outcome.
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Re: If Adelaide offer us picks 8 &15 for pick 4
I don't think rozee is anywhere nears as valuable as Rankine or lukosius which means if Walsh Rankine and Lukosius are gone I doubt we will be involved in a pick swap. Most pundits have king being selected at four which I believe will occur though I don't think we should as we need mids
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Re: If Adelaide offer us picks 8 &15 for pick 4
He may be more value to GC if they are trying to retain the other two SA boys and think 3 close SA boys coming to the club may stay the distance.DJ Higgins wrote: ↑Tue 13 Nov 2018 10:17am I don't think rozee is anywhere nears as valuable as Rankine or lukosius which means if Walsh Rankine and Lukosius are gone I doubt we will be involved in a pick swap. Most pundits have king being selected at four which I believe will occur though I don't think we should as we need mids
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Re: If Adelaide offer us picks 8 &15 for pick 4
Latest rumour is that gold coast want our pick 4 so they have picks 2-4. Not sure what they will offer in return but next years first pick may not be that good and the talent may not be as good as this year
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Re: If Adelaide offer us picks 8 &15 for pick 4
Pick 6 back plus a sweetener or two which could be converted into a top 20 pick.
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Re: If Adelaide offer us picks 8 &15 for pick 4
Potential future first rounder..
We are not in a position to really accommodate that.
We are not in a position to really accommodate that.
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Re: If Adelaide offer us picks 8 &15 for pick 4
Which could/would be Pick 1 next year.
Probably mean we'd get 1 & 2 next year.
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Re: If Adelaide offer us picks 8 &15 for pick 4
Joffa Burns wrote: ↑Mon 12 Nov 2018 4:14pmThis!saintsRrising wrote: ↑Mon 12 Nov 2018 3:59pm
We have ok depth at present, what we need is the cream. We are severely short of top-end elite players
Get such talent, and then watch what we already have walk taller.
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Re: If Adelaide offer us picks 8 &15 for pick 4
Give us their pick 6 this year & their first rounder next year for our pick 4 & 34 this year & it's a done deal IMO
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Re: If Adelaide offer us picks 8 &15 for pick 4
He'd reckon that drafting, like fishing, is 10% Brains and 95% muscle, the rest is just good luck.desertsaint wrote: ↑Mon 12 Nov 2018 7:09pm i asked this guy if he would take that deal.
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Re: If Adelaide offer us picks 8 &15 for pick 4
So everyone thinks that the top 6 are guns and that's why we should not accept 8 and 15 for 4. If it was 100% certain that the top 6 were in fact guns then I would not want 8 and 15 either. The fact is it never ends up this way. What better example than Mc Cartin? Imagine what our list would look like if we had traded pick 1 to GWS for 2 top 10 picks???
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Re: If Adelaide offer us picks 8 &15 for pick 4
Yep we could have got Jarrod Pickett and Paul Ahern instead.ListManager wrote: ↑Thu 15 Nov 2018 8:00am So everyone thinks that the top 6 are guns and that's why we should not accept 8 and 15 for 4. If it was 100% certain that the top 6 were in fact guns then I would not want 8 and 15 either. The fact is it never ends up this way. What better example than Mc Cartin? Imagine what our list would look like if we had traded pick 1 to GWS for 2 top 10 picks???
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Re: If Adelaide offer us picks 8 &15 for pick 4
I have resigned to the fAct we will get max king which will mean nothing in 2019 in relation to improvement as he will spend next year in the Vfl. It will also mean that we will finish In the bottom 3 again with our problems in the midfield continuing. Long season ahead.
Out of interest what happens if we delist paddy at the end of next year in relation to compensation. Do we get anything?
Out of interest what happens if we delist paddy at the end of next year in relation to compensation. Do we get anything?
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Re: If Adelaide offer us picks 8 &15 for pick 4
I think the Club is starting to 'ramp up' the pressure on the SA clubs.
I heard on SEN this morning that it's being reported that we may not take the 'best player' at #4 (King) but will take the 'best player to suit our needs'.
Some discussion then took place as to the 'value' of this decision.
IMHO it is nothing more than St Kilda signalling to PA and Crows that we will take a 'mid' at #4 to put pressure on them to think about trying to do a deal.
I heard on SEN this morning that it's being reported that we may not take the 'best player' at #4 (King) but will take the 'best player to suit our needs'.
Some discussion then took place as to the 'value' of this decision.
IMHO it is nothing more than St Kilda signalling to PA and Crows that we will take a 'mid' at #4 to put pressure on them to think about trying to do a deal.
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Re: If Adelaide offer us picks 8 &15 for pick 4
No compo for delisting players, he is contracted for 2020 so it would have to be a pretty poor year for him to get delisted earlier.DJ Higgins wrote: ↑Thu 15 Nov 2018 8:35am I have resigned to the fAct we will get max king which will mean nothing in 2019 in relation to improvement as he will spend next year in the Vfl. It will also mean that we will finish In the bottom 3 again with our problems in the midfield continuing. Long season ahead.
Out of interest what happens if we delist paddy at the end of next year in relation to compensation. Do we get anything?
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Re: If Adelaide offer us picks 8 &15 for pick 4
A midfielder is the target.Mr Magic wrote: ↑Thu 15 Nov 2018 8:41am I think the Club is starting to 'ramp up' the pressure on the SA clubs.
I heard on SEN this morning that it's being reported that we may not take the 'best player' at #4 (King) but will take the 'best player to suit our needs'.
Some discussion then took place as to the 'value' of this decision.
IMHO it is nothing more than St Kilda signalling to PA and Crows that we will take a 'mid' at #4 to put pressure on them to think about trying to do a deal.
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Re: If Adelaide offer us picks 8 &15 for pick 4
Thanks. I thought he waa only until 2019. My bad. if we trade him we get what ever we can for him. Shame as so far not great value for a high pick.
I guess I'm getting desperate.
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Re: If Adelaide offer us picks 8 &15 for pick 4
I’d love to get into the club’s mindset currently.
All commonsense suggests that we should get Luk, Rankine or Smith depending on who falls through.
The expectation seems to be that King will be available at 4.
If we’re going for King, I just can’t see why we so boldly declared Paddy off limits for the trade.
Unless we’re planning on using King as a ruck forward alternating with Marshall, I can’t see a spot for both Paddy and King on the list
All commonsense suggests that we should get Luk, Rankine or Smith depending on who falls through.
The expectation seems to be that King will be available at 4.
If we’re going for King, I just can’t see why we so boldly declared Paddy off limits for the trade.
Unless we’re planning on using King as a ruck forward alternating with Marshall, I can’t see a spot for both Paddy and King on the list
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Re: If Adelaide offer us picks 8 &15 for pick 4
Bet your house on a midfielder.skeptic wrote: ↑Thu 15 Nov 2018 10:15am I’d love to get into the club’s mindset currently.
All commonsense suggests that we should get Luk, Rankine or Smith depending on who falls through.
The expectation seems to be that King will be available at 4.
If we’re going for King, I just can’t see why we so boldly declared Paddy off limits for the trade.
Unless we’re planning on using King as a ruck forward alternating with Marshall, I can’t see a spot for both Paddy and King on the list
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Theory or inside word.Cairnsman wrote: ↑Thu 15 Nov 2018 11:50amBet your house on a midfielder.skeptic wrote: ↑Thu 15 Nov 2018 10:15am I’d love to get into the club’s mindset currently.
All commonsense suggests that we should get Luk, Rankine or Smith depending on who falls through.
The expectation seems to be that King will be available at 4.
If we’re going for King, I just can’t see why we so boldly declared Paddy off limits for the trade.
Unless we’re planning on using King as a ruck forward alternating with Marshall, I can’t see a spot for both Paddy and King on the list
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Re: If Adelaide offer us picks 8 &15 for pick 4
Logic says that - yes. However, would you rather have C Salem and D Tyson (now gone) in your team or Josh Kelly? Because your suggestion is near-on precisely what Melbourne did ...ListManager wrote: ↑Thu 15 Nov 2018 8:00am So everyone thinks that the top 6 are guns and that's why we should not accept 8 and 15 for 4. If it was 100% certain that the top 6 were in fact guns then I would not want 8 and 15 either. The fact is it never ends up this way. What better example than Mc Cartin? Imagine what our list would look like if we had traded pick 1 to GWS for 2 top 10 picks???
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The flaw with this approach is that your gain is only 1 more pick.ListManager wrote: ↑Thu 15 Nov 2018 8:00am So everyone thinks that the top 6 are guns and that's why we should not accept 8 and 15 for 4. If it was 100% certain that the top 6 were in fact guns then I would not want 8 and 15 either. The fact is it never ends up this way. What better example than Mc Cartin? Imagine what our list would look like if we had traded pick 1 to GWS for 2 top 10 picks???
That’s quite literally it.
If we can’t guarantee a gun with pick 4 when there are 6 standout prospects... how are we more likely to get one with pick 15.
To me it’s simply not enough of an advantage to downgrade. If u turned it into 3-4 players in the top 25 that’s one thing but we’re more likely to draft another Hugh Goddard or DMac standard player
It’s a weird argument to me where pick 4 is too risky but pick 8 & 15 means we’ll pbly get two guns
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Let's just say I am known as the mystic in certain dark circles. Load up. It will be a midfielder.skeptic wrote: ↑Thu 15 Nov 2018 12:04pmTheory or inside word.Cairnsman wrote: ↑Thu 15 Nov 2018 11:50amBet your house on a midfielder.skeptic wrote: ↑Thu 15 Nov 2018 10:15am I’d love to get into the club’s mindset currently.
All commonsense suggests that we should get Luk, Rankine or Smith depending on who falls through.
The expectation seems to be that King will be available at 4.
If we’re going for King, I just can’t see why we so boldly declared Paddy off limits for the trade.
Unless we’re planning on using King as a ruck forward alternating with Marshall, I can’t see a spot for both Paddy and King on the list
PS, hope ur right
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Re: If Adelaide offer us picks 8 &15 for pick 4
Cairnsman wrote: ↑Thu 15 Nov 2018 3:14pmLet's just say I am known as the mystic in certain dark circles. Load up. It will be a midfielder.skeptic wrote: ↑Thu 15 Nov 2018 12:04pmTheory or inside word.Cairnsman wrote: ↑Thu 15 Nov 2018 11:50amBet your house on a midfielder.skeptic wrote: ↑Thu 15 Nov 2018 10:15am I’d love to get into the club’s mindset currently.
All commonsense suggests that we should get Luk, Rankine or Smith depending on who falls through.
The expectation seems to be that King will be available at 4.
If we’re going for King, I just can’t see why we so boldly declared Paddy off limits for the trade.
Unless we’re planning on using King as a ruck forward alternating with Marshall, I can’t see a spot for both Paddy and King on the list
PS, hope ur right
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