St Kilda is no stranger to scheduling screwings. It had the AFL’s worst fixture in 2014, the worst in 2015, the 9th best in 2016, and the worst in 2017. This year, it was the worst again, and that was also the worst fixture of any team in five years.
How the fixture screwed St Kilda
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How the fixture screwed St Kilda
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Re: How the fixture screwed St Kilda
They SHOULD be.
And they SHOULD be jumping up and down about the freekick imbalance we get in Perth which over the last decade is the worst in the competition.
SHOULD, SHOULD.
But they WON'T WON'T.
Because they are WEAK WEAK !
The rest of Australia can wander mask-free, socialise, eat out, no curfews, no zoning, no police rings of steel, no illogical inconsistent rules.
They can even WATCH LIVE FOOTY!
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Re: How the fixture screwed St Kilda
Don't worry, it all evens out over one hundred years or so..
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Re: How the fixture screwed St Kilda
Can I ask what 'jumping up and down' will achieve?Enrico_Misso wrote: ↑Wed 10 Oct 2018 10:10pmThey SHOULD be.
And they SHOULD be jumping up and down about the freekick imbalance we get in Perth which over the last decade is the worst in the competition.
SHOULD, SHOULD.
But they WON'T WON'T.
Because they are WEAK WEAK !
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Re: How the fixture screwed St Kilda
So it’s not our fault we can’t attract quality players and North and Essendon are already ahead of us as “destination clubs,” it’s the fixtures fault?
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Re: How the fixture screwed St Kilda
In a word "Justice".rodgerfox wrote: ↑Wed 10 Oct 2018 10:21pmCan I ask what 'jumping up and down' will achieve?Enrico_Misso wrote: ↑Wed 10 Oct 2018 10:10pmThey SHOULD be.
And they SHOULD be jumping up and down about the freekick imbalance we get in Perth which over the last decade is the worst in the competition.
SHOULD, SHOULD.
But they WON'T WON'T.
Because they are WEAK WEAK !
If we don't forcefully call injustices out then we will routinely be trampled all over in perpetuity.
Some of the questions we should be asking ...
Why was our double-up draw this year 2/2/1 instead of 1/2/2?
Why have we had a massive imbalance (over the last 5 years) of 8 more away games against teams at interstate (+Kardinia Park) venues than playing them at our home - including 3 this year?
Why do we get more 6 day breaks than the league average?
Why do we get banished to twilight zone time more than any other side?
Why do we have the worst free kick imbalance in Perth?
The fact that these issues are not averaging out over multiple seasons indicates clearly they are NOT random.
So why is there an agenda against us?
The rest of Australia can wander mask-free, socialise, eat out, no curfews, no zoning, no police rings of steel, no illogical inconsistent rules.
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Re: How the fixture screwed St Kilda
Anyone surprised?kosifantutti wrote: ↑Wed 10 Oct 2018 9:16pm https://squiggle.com.au/how-the-fixture ... -st-kilda/
St Kilda is no stranger to scheduling screwings. It had the AFL’s worst fixture in 2014, the worst in 2015, the 9th best in 2016, and the worst in 2017. This year, it was the worst again, and that was also the worst fixture of any team in five years.
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Re: How the fixture screwed St Kilda
But doesn't everyone know the answer to those questions?Enrico_Misso wrote: ↑Wed 10 Oct 2018 10:42pmIn a word "Justice".rodgerfox wrote: ↑Wed 10 Oct 2018 10:21pmCan I ask what 'jumping up and down' will achieve?Enrico_Misso wrote: ↑Wed 10 Oct 2018 10:10pmThey SHOULD be.
And they SHOULD be jumping up and down about the freekick imbalance we get in Perth which over the last decade is the worst in the competition.
SHOULD, SHOULD.
But they WON'T WON'T.
Because they are WEAK WEAK !
If we don't forcefully call injustices out then we will routinely be trampled all over in perpetuity.
Some of the questions we should be asking ...
Why was our double-up draw this year 2/2/1 instead of 1/2/2?
Why have we had a massive imbalance (over the last 5 years) of 8 more away games against teams at interstate (+Kardinia Park) venues than playing them at our home - including 3 this year?
Why do we get more 6 day breaks than the league average?
Why do we get banished to twilight zone time more than any other side?
Why do we have the worst free kick imbalance in Perth?
The fact that these issues are not averaging out over multiple seasons indicates clearly they are NOT random.
So why is there an agenda against us?
It's like wondering why WNBL players get paid less than NBA players or why Johnny Depp played a Native American in The Lone Ranger - it's because the AFL is an entertainment business. Its business model revolves around people consuming their product. Full stop.
That means bums on seats, and eyes on TV screens.
Don't blame the club. Blame the fact that Richmond, Collingwood, Essendon, Carlton etc. have and always will have about 200,000 more supporters than we do.
No matter how much anyone 'jumps up and down', until the Saints put as much money into the AFL as the big clubs do, we will continue to be treated the way the we are. Because we just don't matter.
It just is what it is.
I honestly don't know why people get so huffy about it.
If you don't like it, you just need to find another hobby, or barrack for a different team. Cause it's never, ever going to change.
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Re: How the fixture screwed St Kilda
Mmmmmrodgerfox wrote: ↑Wed 10 Oct 2018 11:09pmBut doesn't everyone know the answer to those questions?Enrico_Misso wrote: ↑Wed 10 Oct 2018 10:42pmIn a word "Justice".rodgerfox wrote: ↑Wed 10 Oct 2018 10:21pmCan I ask what 'jumping up and down' will achieve?Enrico_Misso wrote: ↑Wed 10 Oct 2018 10:10pmThey SHOULD be.
And they SHOULD be jumping up and down about the freekick imbalance we get in Perth which over the last decade is the worst in the competition.
SHOULD, SHOULD.
But they WON'T WON'T.
Because they are WEAK WEAK !
If we don't forcefully call injustices out then we will routinely be trampled all over in perpetuity.
Some of the questions we should be asking ...
Why was our double-up draw this year 2/2/1 instead of 1/2/2?
Why have we had a massive imbalance (over the last 5 years) of 8 more away games against teams at interstate (+Kardinia Park) venues than playing them at our home - including 3 this year?
Why do we get more 6 day breaks than the league average?
Why do we get banished to twilight zone time more than any other side?
Why do we have the worst free kick imbalance in Perth?
The fact that these issues are not averaging out over multiple seasons indicates clearly they are NOT random.
So why is there an agenda against us?
It's like wondering why WNBL players get paid less than NBA players or why Johnny Depp played a Native American in The Lone Ranger - it's because the AFL is an entertainment business. Its business model revolves around people consuming their product. Full stop.
That means bums on seats, and eyes on TV screens.
Don't blame the club. Blame the fact that Richmond, Collingwood, Essendon, Carlton etc. have and always will have about 200,000 more supporters than we do.
No matter how much anyone 'jumps up and down', until the Saints put as much money into the AFL as the big clubs do, we will continue to be treated the way the we are. Because we just don't matter.
It just is what it is.
I honestly don't know why people get so huffy about it.
If you don't like it, you just need to find another hobby, or barrack for a different team. Cause it's never, ever going to change.
Sorry, I thought AFL was a "sport" not entertainment.
Perhaps top rated USA/China/Russian Olympic athletes should bi-pass heats/semis and go straight into their finals to maximise bums on seats and eyes on TV screens?
The rest of Australia can wander mask-free, socialise, eat out, no curfews, no zoning, no police rings of steel, no illogical inconsistent rules.
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Re: How the fixture screwed St Kilda
Well, quite frankly - you're wrong.Enrico_Misso wrote: ↑Wed 10 Oct 2018 11:44pm
Mmmmm
Sorry, I thought AFL was a "sport" not entertainment.
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Re: How the fixture screwed St Kilda
Correlation and bias issues (eg sampling, cherry picking etc).
”Correlation does not imply causation”.
Also, issue of simultaneity: X causes changes in Y and Y causes changes in X.
”Correlation does not imply causation”.
Also, issue of simultaneity: X causes changes in Y and Y causes changes in X.
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Re: How the fixture screwed St Kilda
Yep, we're always the AFL's whipping boy club. Even when we do well, they still punish us. Damned if we do, damned if we don't!! ![Evil or Very Mad :evil:](./images/smilies/icon_evil.gif)
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Re: How the fixture screwed St Kilda
Yeap, unlike the Filth who get the easiest draw every year!!!!!Sainternist wrote: ↑Thu 11 Oct 2018 11:02am Yep, we're always the AFL's whipping boy club. Even when we do well, they still punish us. Damned if we do, damned if we don't!!![]()
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Re: How the fixture screwed St Kilda
Sadly, the Filth are the AFL's greatest asset.stonecold wrote: ↑Thu 11 Oct 2018 11:05amYeap, unlike the Filth who get the easiest draw every year!!!!!Sainternist wrote: ↑Thu 11 Oct 2018 11:02am Yep, we're always the AFL's whipping boy club. Even when we do well, they still punish us. Damned if we do, damned if we don't!!![]()
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Re: How the fixture screwed St Kilda
Only matters if you are not good enough.
Nothing to see here or whine about.
Win games, draw crowds get better fixture.
Nothing to see here or whine about.
Win games, draw crowds get better fixture.
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Re: How the fixture screwed St Kilda
Ssssshhh, we’re in the tinfoil hat zone here!Joffa Burns wrote: ↑Thu 11 Oct 2018 12:10pm Only matters if you are not good enough.
Nothing to see here or whine about.
Win games, draw crowds get better fixture.
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Re: How the fixture screwed St Kilda
Not true, I wish it was but it's not.Joffa Burns wrote: ↑Thu 11 Oct 2018 12:10pm Only matters if you are not good enough.
Nothing to see here or whine about.
Win games, draw crowds get better fixture.
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Re: How the fixture screwed St Kilda
Not true.Joffa Burns wrote: ↑Thu 11 Oct 2018 12:10pm Only matters if you are not good enough.
Nothing to see here or whine about.
Win games, draw crowds get better fixture.
Might get one or two night games, but that's about it..On someone else's home deck. We would still travel to Perth Twice, Adelaide twice and Queensland twice, KP at least once and probably down to Tasmania also.
Plus most of our home games would be Sunday f****** twilight.
Almost all our games next year will be twilight games.
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Re: How the fixture screwed St Kilda
will be worst again next year with the trip to china. this year port got compensated very well with the draw after that game, gold coast not so much.
mind you, given it's a 'home' game that algorithmn may incorrectly assess it to our advantage.
mind you, given it's a 'home' game that algorithmn may incorrectly assess it to our advantage.
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Re: How the fixture screwed St Kilda
Add this to the umpires conspiracy against us and we’re totally stuffed curlsCURLY wrote: ↑Thu 11 Oct 2018 1:13pmNot true, I wish it was but it's not.Joffa Burns wrote: ↑Thu 11 Oct 2018 12:10pm Only matters if you are not good enough.
Nothing to see here or whine about.
Win games, draw crowds get better fixture.
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Re: How the fixture screwed St Kilda
Ever been to Hobart? lovely place for a mid winter holidayEnrico_Misso wrote: ↑Wed 10 Oct 2018 10:42pmIn a word "Justice".rodgerfox wrote: ↑Wed 10 Oct 2018 10:21pmCan I ask what 'jumping up and down' will achieve?Enrico_Misso wrote: ↑Wed 10 Oct 2018 10:10pmThey SHOULD be.
And they SHOULD be jumping up and down about the freekick imbalance we get in Perth which over the last decade is the worst in the competition.
SHOULD, SHOULD.
But they WON'T WON'T.
Because they are WEAK WEAK !
If we don't forcefully call injustices out then we will routinely be trampled all over in perpetuity.
Some of the questions we should be asking ...
Why was our double-up draw this year 2/2/1 instead of 1/2/2?
Why have we had a massive imbalance (over the last 5 years) of 8 more away games against teams at interstate (+Kardinia Park) venues than playing them at our home - including 3 this year?
Why do we get more 6 day breaks than the league average?
Why do we get banished to twilight zone time more than any other side?
Why do we have the worst free kick imbalance in Perth?
The fact that these issues are not averaging out over multiple seasons indicates clearly they are NOT random.
So why is there an agenda against us?
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Re: How the fixture screwed St Kilda
Collingwood. Easiest draw best free kicks for most goals from frees = finals.Joffa Burns wrote: ↑Thu 11 Oct 2018 4:49pmAdd this to the umpires conspiracy against us and we’re totally stuffed curlsCURLY wrote: ↑Thu 11 Oct 2018 1:13pmNot true, I wish it was but it's not.Joffa Burns wrote: ↑Thu 11 Oct 2018 12:10pm Only matters if you are not good enough.
Nothing to see here or whine about.
Win games, draw crowds get better fixture.![]()
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