They would need to clear out more than just Hannebury I would have though to make room for Shiel in their cap.
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Re: Monster deal for Dylan Shiel
Remember - they also lost the Tippett contract this year as well - both were on big $$$'sSydneySainter wrote: ↑Fri 14 Sep 2018 3:45pmThey would need to clear out more than just Hannebury I would have though to make room for Shiel in their cap.
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Re: Monster deal for Dylan Shiel
I think they still have to pay some of Tippet's contract in 2019.Sainter_Dad wrote: ↑Fri 14 Sep 2018 5:25pmRemember - they also lost the Tippett contract this year as well - both were on big $$$'sSydneySainter wrote: ↑Fri 14 Sep 2018 3:45pmThey would need to clear out more than just Hannebury I would have though to make room for Shiel in their cap.
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Re: Monster deal for Dylan Shiel
Nope - Tippet's contract is completed on 31 October 2018takeaway wrote: ↑Fri 14 Sep 2018 6:00pmI think they still have to pay some of Tippet's contract in 2019.Sainter_Dad wrote: ↑Fri 14 Sep 2018 5:25pmRemember - they also lost the Tippett contract this year as well - both were on big $$$'sSydneySainter wrote: ↑Fri 14 Sep 2018 3:45pmThey would need to clear out more than just Hannebury I would have though to make room for Shiel in their cap.
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Re: Monster deal for Dylan Shiel
Apparently his exit payment will need to be included in their 2019 cap.Saintmatt wrote: ↑Fri 14 Sep 2018 6:07pmNope - Tippet's contract is completed on 31 October 2018takeaway wrote: ↑Fri 14 Sep 2018 6:00pmI think they still have to pay some of Tippet's contract in 2019.Sainter_Dad wrote: ↑Fri 14 Sep 2018 5:25pmRemember - they also lost the Tippett contract this year as well - both were on big $$$'sSydneySainter wrote: ↑Fri 14 Sep 2018 3:45pmThey would need to clear out more than just Hannebury I would have though to make room for Shiel in their cap.
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Very relevant when talking about Dylan Shiel. This year or next year.
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Re: Monster deal for Dylan Shiel
If we could get Shiel, it would certainly give fans some hope for next year. If we don't get anyone through trade, everything looks quite bleak.tedtheodorelogan2018 wrote:Hope is the pillar that holds up the world. Hope is the dream of a waking man.
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I’m not sold this is the way to go as we would be paying through the nose.
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Happy to do it for Longer and next years first rounder.
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If it was next years first rounder, they would want more than Longer as a sweetener.
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Re: Monster deal for Dylan Shiel
I keep hearing Giants want a first rounder and a second rounder or a player worth a second rounder for Shiel.
Carlton have pick 1 and probably a compensation pick but no player needed by GWS but pick 1 and their second rounder - pick 20-something this year would get the deal done.
Saints will struggle to match this IF it is offered especially as we are not offering pick 3 (pick 4) and we have limited players of value to GWS and no second rounder this year.
If Carlton really want Shiel then they can give 1 and 20 and he is theirs.
Carlton have pick 1 and probably a compensation pick but no player needed by GWS but pick 1 and their second rounder - pick 20-something this year would get the deal done.
Saints will struggle to match this IF it is offered especially as we are not offering pick 3 (pick 4) and we have limited players of value to GWS and no second rounder this year.
If Carlton really want Shiel then they can give 1 and 20 and he is theirs.
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Re: Monster deal for Dylan Shiel
I'm sure we would get more out of Shiel than the Midgets are getting out of him.
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1.3 for shiel i'd do, but what does that leave for kelly. what have we spent on mitch?
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Re: Monster deal for Dylan Shiel
If shiel is worth 1.2/1.3 where does that leave Steven and Ross? Same level. Opens up an unsustainable worm can.
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Re: Monster deal for Dylan Shiel
You could say the same thing about all teams with high paid players.SaintDippa wrote: ↑Sun 16 Sep 2018 4:30pm If shiel is worth 1.2/1.3 where does that leave Steven and Ross? Same level. Opens up an unsustainable worm can.
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The club is going to find themselves in real deep s***...even deeper than what they are now if they pay a very good midfielder 1.3 mill a year. Absolutely crazy. He is lucky to be even in the top 5 midfielders at GWS. A short stepping non tackler and not the best kick going around.
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Re: Monster deal for Dylan Shiel
Shiel is a good player but not worth our first rounder
Averaged 25 possessions 3 marks 3 tackles and kicked 6.14 this year
Also averaged 1 goal assist and 1.5 one %
Sure good player but mid to late first round at very best
Tom Mitchell went for pick 14 and a swap of later picks
Averaged 25 possessions 3 marks 3 tackles and kicked 6.14 this year
Also averaged 1 goal assist and 1.5 one %
Sure good player but mid to late first round at very best
Tom Mitchell went for pick 14 and a swap of later picks
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Re: Monster deal for Dylan Shiel
That's $1.3 mill a year staring you right in the face....what a joke.Devilhead wrote: ↑Sun 16 Sep 2018 5:51pm Shiel is a good player but not worth our first rounder
Averaged 25 possessions 3 marks 3 tackles and kicked 6.14 this year
Also averaged 1 goal assist and 1.5 one %
Sure good player but mid to late first round at very best
Tom Mitchell went for pick 14 and a swap of later picks
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Fair analysis and agree with posters above.Devilhead wrote: ↑Sun 16 Sep 2018 5:51pm Shiel is a good player but not worth our first rounder
Averaged 25 possessions 3 marks 3 tackles and kicked 6.14 this year
Also averaged 1 goal assist and 1.5 one %
Sure good player but mid to late first round at very best
Tom Mitchell went for pick 14 and a swap of later picks
Shiel is good for sure. But he is 25. 26 before the next season starts. Maybe you get 4-5 good seasons out of him.
Worth about pick 10 in my opinion. Would not give up pick 4 for him.
By comparison Kelly is better and younger and worth pick 1 and Coniglio is younger and better and worth a pick 5. Just MO.