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Re: Freeman delisted
Disappointing, he has great hands and obviously guts. If he has lost his speed and kicking penetration then its understandable, although a tough call. He didn't look out of sorts at AFL level, I hope we rookie him.
The bar is set and there's going to be a fair few more I would think.
The bar is set and there's going to be a fair few more I would think.
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Re: Freeman delisted
Nothing wrong with that and I hope you are right. In this case it was a particularly soft target. I mean Freeman’s hardly to blame for our disastrous season.
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Re: Freeman delisted
If Gilbert stays....The Recruit wrote: ↑Tue 28 Aug 2018 10:46pm A bit hysterical from some but I imagine the delistings/retirements to be
Freeman
Wright
Stevens
Minchington
Lonie will be rookied if Menzel comes
Mav and Armo will be traded to the GC
Longer traded for late pick
Gilbert will be kept on if he isn’t traded.
In will be
1st round pick
2nd rnd pick from GC for Weller and Armo
3rd rnd pick for Longer
Pick 57
Pick 62
Lycette
Hannebery traded for compensation pick from AFL
Menzel
So Far
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Re: Freeman delisted
Apparently Nathan has lost his pace.
We need his list space to bring in pace.
We need his list place for Hannebury.
I've supported the mighty Saintas since 1967. (Yep, still waiting.)
Have seen plenty of heart-wrenching stuff in that time. Way too much.
But..., this is the first time... ever... that I've thought that our beloved club has lost the plot.
I won't go on strike (as in, not renew my membership), but, I have now finally lost all confidence in those currently pretending to be running our great club.
Prove me wrong you bastards!!!
And bloody soon!!!
We need his list space to bring in pace.
We need his list place for Hannebury.
I've supported the mighty Saintas since 1967. (Yep, still waiting.)
Have seen plenty of heart-wrenching stuff in that time. Way too much.
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But..., this is the first time... ever... that I've thought that our beloved club has lost the plot.
I won't go on strike (as in, not renew my membership), but, I have now finally lost all confidence in those currently pretending to be running our great club.
Prove me wrong you bastards!!!
And bloody soon!!!
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Re: Freeman delisted
Perhaps they told him quick because they didn't want to bugger him around?
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Re: Freeman delisted
Don’t see any reason to delist Gilbert. He is a very good 30-40 player on a list
Sandringham for most of the year unless he needs to play due to injury
Sandringham for most of the year unless he needs to play due to injury
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Re: Freeman delisted
Fair enoughBernard Shakey wrote: ↑Tue 28 Aug 2018 10:46pmHe was concussed at training last week. Couldn't play the last game.
You watch sandy a lot would you have retained him?
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Re: Freeman delisted
Collingwood with all their money and medical expertise came to the conclusion that his hamstrings were shot.
Given they invested a first round pick on him it would not have been an easy decision.
So what do we do?
We decide to have a punt that maybe their medical advice was wrong.
And/or with our lesser resources we could somehow rehabilitate him.
It was NEVER going to happen.
It was recruiting at it's dumbest.
Why bring in problems?
It's the sort of dumb mindset that sees a team wasting a Number 1 pick on a player with an ongoing medical condition that prevents them achieving the fitness levels required to be an elite player.
Given they invested a first round pick on him it would not have been an easy decision.
So what do we do?
We decide to have a punt that maybe their medical advice was wrong.
And/or with our lesser resources we could somehow rehabilitate him.
It was NEVER going to happen.
It was recruiting at it's dumbest.
Why bring in problems?
It's the sort of dumb mindset that sees a team wasting a Number 1 pick on a player with an ongoing medical condition that prevents them achieving the fitness levels required to be an elite player.
The rest of Australia can wander mask-free, socialise, eat out, no curfews, no zoning, no police rings of steel, no illogical inconsistent rules.
They can even WATCH LIVE FOOTY!
They can even WATCH LIVE FOOTY!
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Re: Freeman delisted
Rather have a younger Freeman who may make it,than a older player who has played his part,but isnt our future.Especially when we need mids not hbf .No disrespect to GilbertThe Recruit wrote: ↑Tue 28 Aug 2018 10:58pm Don’t see any reason to delist Gilbert. He is a very good 30-40 player on a list
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Re: Freeman delisted
Pleasebergsone wrote: ↑Tue 28 Aug 2018 11:04pmRather have a younger Freeman who may make it,than a older player who has played his part,but isnt our future.Especially when we need mids not hbf .No disrespect to GilbertThe Recruit wrote: ↑Tue 28 Aug 2018 10:58pm Don’t see any reason to delist Gilbert. He is a very good 30-40 player on a list
Sandringham for most of the year unless he needs to play due to injury
Gilbert is a defender who can play tall
Has a big body that can play most weeks.
Freeman has played two games of footy.
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Re: Freeman delisted
We dont need 30/40 list playersThe Recruit wrote: ↑Tue 28 Aug 2018 11:06pmPleasebergsone wrote: ↑Tue 28 Aug 2018 11:04pmRather have a younger Freeman who may make it,than a older player who has played his part,but isnt our future.Especially when we need mids not hbf .No disrespect to GilbertThe Recruit wrote: ↑Tue 28 Aug 2018 10:58pm Don’t see any reason to delist Gilbert. He is a very good 30-40 player on a list
Sandringham for most of the year unless he needs to play due to injury
Gilbert is a defender who can play tall
Has a big body that can play most weeks.
Freeman has played two games of footy.
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Re: Freeman delisted
The Recruit wrote: ↑Tue 28 Aug 2018 11:06pmPleasebergsone wrote: ↑Tue 28 Aug 2018 11:04pmRather have a younger Freeman who may make it,than a older player who has played his part,but isnt our future.Especially when we need mids not hbf .No disrespect to GilbertThe Recruit wrote: ↑Tue 28 Aug 2018 10:58pm Don’t see any reason to delist Gilbert. He is a very good 30-40 player on a list
Sandringham for most of the year unless he needs to play due to injury
Gilbert is a defender who can play tall
Has a big body that can play most weeks.
If he helps us get over the line in 1-2 weeks when our best 29 arnt avaialbe through injury then he has done his job.
Freeman has played two games of footy.
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Re: Freeman delisted
So no need for depth on a list?bergsone wrote: ↑Tue 28 Aug 2018 11:08pmWe dont need 30/40 list playersThe Recruit wrote: ↑Tue 28 Aug 2018 11:06pmPleasebergsone wrote: ↑Tue 28 Aug 2018 11:04pmRather have a younger Freeman who may make it,than a older player who has played his part,but isnt our future.Especially when we need mids not hbf .No disrespect to GilbertThe Recruit wrote: ↑Tue 28 Aug 2018 10:58pm Don’t see any reason to delist Gilbert. He is a very good 30-40 player on a list
Sandringham for most of the year unless he needs to play due to injury
Gilbert is a defender who can play tall
Has a big body that can play most weeks.
Freeman has played two games of footy.
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Re: Freeman delisted
That's not quite right Enrico.Enrico_Misso wrote: ↑Tue 28 Aug 2018 11:02pm Collingwood with all their money and medical expertise came to the conclusion that his hamstrings were shot.
Given they invested a first round pick on him it would not have been an easy decision.
So what do we do?
We decide to have a punt that maybe their medical advice was wrong.
And/or with our lesser resources we could somehow rehabilitate him.
It was NEVER going to happen.
It was recruiting at it's dumbest.
Why bring in problems?
It's the sort of dumb mindset that sees a team wasting a Number 1 pick on a player with an ongoing medical condition that prevents them achieving the fitness levels required to be an elite player.
From memory: Freeman wasn't happy with the results of "all their money and medical expertise".
Not relying on memory: The Skunks didn't conclude that his hammies were shot. The Skunks didn't want Freeman to leave.
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Re: Freeman delisted
Trout must have found a young kid with a great family, a good kid, who will be available at Pick 125, cause that’s where his replacement is coming from...
FMD.
Good luck Freeza, hope you find a way back into the AFL system somehow, you deserve better.
FMD.
Good luck Freeza, hope you find a way back into the AFL system somehow, you deserve better.
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Re: Freeman delisted
Trout got moved on.
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Re: Freeman delisted
Thats were we differ,rather get games into,Clarke,Cottfield,White,etc who maybe our future than our past,Armo in the same boat imoThe Recruit wrote: ↑Tue 28 Aug 2018 11:09pmSo no need for depth on a list?bergsone wrote: ↑Tue 28 Aug 2018 11:08pmWe dont need 30/40 list playersThe Recruit wrote: ↑Tue 28 Aug 2018 11:06pmPleasebergsone wrote: ↑Tue 28 Aug 2018 11:04pmRather have a younger Freeman who may make it,than a older player who has played his part,but isnt our future.Especially when we need mids not hbf .No disrespect to GilbertThe Recruit wrote: ↑Tue 28 Aug 2018 10:58pm Don’t see any reason to delist Gilbert. He is a very good 30-40 player on a list
Sandringham for most of the year unless he needs to play due to injury
Gilbert is a defender who can play tall
Has a big body that can play most weeks.
Freeman has played two games of footy.
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Re: Freeman delisted
Sorry, but we are a football club and not a charity. There is no room for emotion or romance with list spots.
Cruel as it may seem, Freeman is a victim of the environment of elite level football.
Good on him for his dedication and resilience. But we have to move on.
Cruel as it may seem, Freeman is a victim of the environment of elite level football.
Good on him for his dedication and resilience. But we have to move on.
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Re: Freeman delisted
Exactly. He won't be the first and last cut.bigred wrote: ↑Tue 28 Aug 2018 11:20pm Sorry, but we are a football club and not a charity. There is no room for emotion or romance with list spots.
Cruel as it may seem, Freeman is a victim of the environment of elite level football.
Good on him for his dedication and resilience. But we have to move on.
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Re: Freeman delisted
Feel sorry for the kid,may have been OK after another season,certainly a victim of everything going sku if there atm
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Re: Freeman delisted
This is the problem bigred throw a guy under the bus after working his ass off for years and doing well on debut, how do we move on??bigred wrote: ↑Tue 28 Aug 2018 11:20pm Sorry, but we are a football club and not a charity. There is no room for emotion or romance with list spots.
Cruel as it may seem, Freeman is a victim of the environment of elite level football.
Good on him for his dedication and resilience. But we have to move on.
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Re: Freeman delisted
The only depth gilbert brings to our list is what tier level he nails when he kicks it out on the fullThe Recruit wrote: ↑Tue 28 Aug 2018 11:09pmSo no need for depth on a list?bergsone wrote: ↑Tue 28 Aug 2018 11:08pmWe dont need 30/40 list playersThe Recruit wrote: ↑Tue 28 Aug 2018 11:06pmPleasebergsone wrote: ↑Tue 28 Aug 2018 11:04pmRather have a younger Freeman who may make it,than a older player who has played his part,but isnt our future.Especially when we need mids not hbf .No disrespect to GilbertThe Recruit wrote: ↑Tue 28 Aug 2018 10:58pm Don’t see any reason to delist Gilbert. He is a very good 30-40 player on a list
Sandringham for most of the year unless he needs to play due to injury
Gilbert is a defender who can play tall
Has a big body that can play most weeks.
Freeman has played two games of footy.
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