Making men out of boys
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Making men out of boys
Whatever's GT's shortcoming as a tactician, his whole tenure was about instilling
pride and making men out of boys. So there were "life-experience" trips to
China and South Africa. And a rotating captaincy to accelerate the development of
the younger brigade.
Out of this era emerged strong leaders, many of whom are now in the media.
Or coaching like Lenny Hayes. Household names.
The miserable failure of the current coaching department is that the boys we recruit
still look and play like boys, even after years in the system.
pride and making men out of boys. So there were "life-experience" trips to
China and South Africa. And a rotating captaincy to accelerate the development of
the younger brigade.
Out of this era emerged strong leaders, many of whom are now in the media.
Or coaching like Lenny Hayes. Household names.
The miserable failure of the current coaching department is that the boys we recruit
still look and play like boys, even after years in the system.
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Re: Making men out of boys
Can never forgive GT for not choosing a ruckmen to run with Kosi in that last game, (Brooks? Name?) but in general I wonder if it was ‘the times man’, being 2002-2006 and a good bit of luck that those boys bonded and made their famous pledge.
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Re: Making men out of boys
Some trades are a bust but you have to be brave.shanegrambeau wrote: ↑Sun 12 Aug 2018 10:27pm Can never forgive GT for not choosing a ruckmen to run with Kosi in that last game, (Brooks? Name?) but in general I wonder if it was ‘the times man’, being 2002-2006 and a good bit of luck that those boys bonded and made their famous pledge.
Barry Brookes was one bust that would have been a master stroke of it had worked trading PA for a young gun big man at the time.
Big, agile, great skills just didn't have the grunt to make it, knee reco didn't help but he could of overcome that.
He was the missing link in that GT team had he fulfilled his potential.
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Re: Making men out of boys
So my anger at him not being picked for that Melbourne final is misplaced?
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Re: Making men out of boys
Brooks should have been selected on the basis of his performance in the final minor round game where he kicked 3 whilst resting forward and should have kicked 5 because he missed a couple
Much criticised on here but not given the opportunity he deserved - including after his knee reconstruction
Also had the ability and skills to play as a forward
Much criticised on here but not given the opportunity he deserved - including after his knee reconstruction
Also had the ability and skills to play as a forward
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Re: Making men out of boys
Interesting post... I would agree that players generally need opportunity as part of developmentTo the top wrote: ↑Sun 12 Aug 2018 11:30pm Brooks should have been selected on the basis of his performance in the final minor round game where he kicked 3 whilst resting forward and should have kicked 5 because he missed a couple
Much criticised on here but not given the opportunity he deserved - including after his knee reconstruction
Also had the ability and skills to play as a forward
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Re: Making men out of boys
Joffa Burns wrote: ↑Sun 12 Aug 2018 10:33pmSome trades are a bust but you have to be brave.shanegrambeau wrote: ↑Sun 12 Aug 2018 10:27pm Can never forgive GT for not choosing a ruckmen to run with Kosi in that last game, (Brooks? Name?) but in general I wonder if it was ‘the times man’, being 2002-2006 and a good bit of luck that those boys bonded and made their famous pledge.
Barry Brookes was one bust that would have been a master stroke of it had worked trading PA for a young gun big man at the time.
Big, agile, great skills just didn't have the grunt to make it, knee reco didn't help but he could of overcome that.
He was the missing link in that GT team had he fulfilled his potential.
Disagree, 5th in line at Port and they were surprised at what we give up for what they considered was not a ruckman.
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Re: Making men out of boys
Wrong, Freebird
Was an 18 year old PA had used a high Draft Pick for - and they then had the ruck resources they had so that was also the commentary
They rated him very highly - ditto Watts when he left Adelaide
And not to the same level, but Austin also who PA reasoned needed some body definition to compliment his talent
Was an 18 year old PA had used a high Draft Pick for - and they then had the ruck resources they had so that was also the commentary
They rated him very highly - ditto Watts when he left Adelaide
And not to the same level, but Austin also who PA reasoned needed some body definition to compliment his talent