Changes against Port Adelaide

[portosaint]

Brown and Longer definite outs, bring in Hickey and Austin/Goddard.

If fit, Webster in for maybe Joyce or McKenzie.

Bruce would be nice but not sure for who.

And when they’re fit, will have to find nd room for Acres and Long.

Don't want to win then?????

See the coaches votes this week?

Considering it's generally one of the main pieces of evidence used against Tom, I can't wait to hear the explanation. I don't think I've seen a single article, not one, that hasn't had Gawn BOG. In a losing side

[saynta]

Coaches votes.


MELBOURNE v ST KILDA
10 Max Gawn (MELB)
7 Jake Carlisle (STK)
6 Jade Gresham (STK)
3 Jack Steele (STK)
3 Jack Sinclair (STK)
1 Jack Viney (MELB

[stonecold]

Brown and Longer definite outs, bring in Hickey and Austin/Goddard.

If fit, Webster in for maybe Joyce or McKenzie.

Bruce would be nice but not sure for who.

And when they’re fit, will have to find nd room for Acres and Long.

Don't want to win then?????

See the coaches votes this week?

MELBOURNE v ST KILDA
10 Max Gawn (MELB)
7 Jake Carlisle (STK)
6 Jade Gresham (STK)
3 Jack Steele (STK)
3 Jack Sinclair (STK)
1 Jack Viney (MELB)
-10 Billy Longer (STK)

So, coaches votes count this week?????

Haven't previously when against Hickledik!!!!!

Probably the same fickle posters that were on the Petracca bandwagon!!!!!

Gawn is the best in the game, as good as Max was, Melb lost, if Hickey played on the form he has shown at the level, we would have lost!!!!!

Longer 4games 3 wins!!!!!

Hickledik too many games, 1 draw!!!!!

Put whatever spin you like on it, our midfield's better with Billy!!!!!

Hickledik might be our answer to the need for an outside mid!!!!!

[saynta]

I just posted the votes.

Without comment I might add.

[stonecold]

I just posted the votes.

Without comment I might add.

Here's a comment: told by others (maybe you?), coaches votes don't count!!!!!

Another comment:

2018
Billy Longer- 4 games, 3 wins!!!!!

Thomas J Hickledik- Too many games 0 wins!!!!!

St.Kilda are a more successful team with Billy!!!!!

Stick your coaches votes, stats and all other theories where the sun don't shine!!!!!

[Viscount Jeremiah]

Hickey & Webster in

Acres too if fit.

[To the top]

As long as a win does not result in the Club not continuing to address the tail that costs us as it has and does

So Longer, Newnes, Weller remain the focus noting Brown is now injured

Assuming Acres is not available I would include Bruce (he came to us as a defender), Hickey, Marshall and Freeman

I was dismayed to see Battle and McCartin having to assume the Ruck responsibilities

And Webster for Geary if Webster is fit

In response to those who say Geary is fearless in the contest that is a not negotiable requirement of every player - plus I still have a query on Savage where if we could combine Geary and Savage you would have what we should be aspiring to

McKenzie seemed ok from a screen

Heat, humidity then rain - and at 7.45PM Russia were still alive on penalties

[saynta]

I just posted the votes.

Without comment I might add.

Here's a comment: told by others (maybe you?), coaches votes don't count!!!!!

Another comment:

2018
Billy Longer- 4 games, 3 wins!!!!!

Thomas J Hickledik- Too many games 0 wins!!!!!

St.Kilda are a more successful team with Billy!!!!!

Stick your coaches votes, stats and all other theories where the sun don't shine!!!!!

NEVER SAID COACHES VOTES DON'T COUNT.

[SydneySainter]

Brown and Longer definite outs, bring in Hickey and Austin/Goddard.

If fit, Webster in for maybe Joyce or McKenzie.

Bruce would be nice but not sure for who.

And when they’re fit, will have to find nd room for Acres and Long.

Don't want to win then?????

See the coaches votes this week?

MELBOURNE v ST KILDA
10 Max Gawn (MELB)
7 Jake Carlisle (STK)
6 Jade Gresham (STK)
3 Jack Steele (STK)
3 Jack Sinclair (STK)
1 Jack Viney (MELB)
-10 Billy Longer (STK)

So, coaches votes count this week?????

Haven't previously when against Hickledik!!!!!

Probably the same fickle posters that were on the Petracca bandwagon!!!!!

Gawn is the best in the game, as good as Max was, Melb lost, if Hickey played on the form he has shown at the level, we would have lost!!!!!

Longer 4games 3 wins!!!!!

Hickledik too many games, 1 draw!!!!!

Put whatever spin you like on it, our midfield's better with Billy!!!!!

Hickledik might be our answer to the need for an outside mid!!!!!

So now the coaches votes don’t count all of a sudden?

There is no spin, the proof is in the pudding. In all of the four matches Longer has played this season, he has been beaten by his opponent. On every outing, he has had fewer disposals and fewer hit outs (the latter being his so-called strength). He’s already been totally dominanted in 50% of those outings and three of his last four opponents have been named in the match report bests, whereas Longer is yet to get a single mention.

Longer is far from the player you make him out to be.

[kell]

I will probably get flamed for this but I was disappointed by Armo's performance and would not be upset if he was dropped.

[kosifantutti]

I just posted the votes.

Without comment I might add.

Here's a comment: told by others (maybe you?), coaches votes don't count!!!!!

Another comment:

2018
Billy Longer- 4 games, 3 wins!!!!!

Thomas J Hickledik- Too many games 0 wins!!!!!

St.Kilda are a more successful team with Billy!!!!!

Stick your coaches votes, stats and all other theories where the sun don't shine!!!!!

Kevin Billing one premiership.

Nick Riewoldt, Trevor Barker, Robert Harvey zero.

Billing a better player!!!!!!

[Viscount Jeremiah]

I hope Longer makes it but honestly when watching him (hit outs aside) I can't think of a less mobile, more useless player around the ground. He's a liability as his opponent runs riot

Hopefully he comes on in the next 18 months

[parkeysainter]

Minch and Goddard might comd in.

Weller and Brown out.

[Scollop]

If I was Billy...

I would be supporting Billy...

Gotta hand it to him. He does a great job with promoting the 'Longer' brand and there is a career as a lobbyist waiting post footy

[stonecold]

I just posted the votes.

Without comment I might add.

Here's a comment: told by others (maybe you?), coaches votes don't count!!!!!

Another comment:

2018
Billy Longer- 4 games, 3 wins!!!!!

Thomas J Hickledik- Too many games 0 wins!!!!!

St.Kilda are a more successful team with Billy!!!!!

Stick your coaches votes, stats and all other theories where the sun don't shine!!!!!

Kevin Billing one premiership.

Nick Riewoldt, Trevor Barker, Robert Harvey zero.

Billing a better player!!!!!!

Longer is a younger, better Ruckman than Hickledik!!!!!


Simple!!!!!

4 games 3 wins!!!!!

Too many games 0 wins!!!!!

Neither are perfect, we all know that, however St.Kilda are better when Billy plays and Tom doesn't, spin it how you like Kos (Spin) Doctor, but there the facts!!!!!

[Jacks Back]

Brown and Longer definite outs, bring in Hickey and Austin/Goddard.

If fit, Webster in for maybe Joyce or McKenzie.

Bruce would be nice but not sure for who.

And when they’re fit, will have to find nd room for Acres and Long.

Don't want to win then?????

See the coaches votes this week?

MELBOURNE v ST KILDA
10 Max Gawn (MELB)
7 Jake Carlisle (STK)
6 Jade Gresham (STK)
3 Jack Steele (STK)
3 Jack Sinclair (STK)
1 Jack Viney (MELB)
-10 Billy Longer (STK)

So, coaches votes count this week?????

Haven't previously when against Hickledik!!!!!

Probably the same fickle posters that were on the Petracca bandwagon!!!!!

Gawn is the best in the game, as good as Max was, Melb lost, if Hickey played on the form he has shown at the level, we would have lost!!!!!

Longer 4games 3 wins!!!!!

Hickledik too many games, 1 draw!!!!!

Put whatever spin you like on it, our midfield's better with Billy!!!!!

Hickledik might be our answer to the need for an outside mid!!!!!

So now the coaches votes don’t count all of a sudden?

There is no spin, the proof is in the pudding. In all of the four matches Longer has played this season, he has been beaten by his opponent. On every outing, he has had fewer disposals and fewer hit outs (the latter being his so-called strength). He’s already been totally dominanted in 50% of those outings and three of his last four opponents have been named in the match report bests, whereas Longer is yet to get a single mention.

Longer is far from the player you make him out to be.

+1 Very well put.

[bigred]

I see everyone has been smashing the bongs since the final siren on Sunday?

Just freakin wow.

[bigred]

I see everyone has been smashing the bongs since the final siren on Sunday?

Just freakin wow.

[samuraisaint]

To say that Longer had his colours lowered yesterday is an understatement. Gawn gave him an absolute bath!

Hickey coming in would normally be a must for mine, but I somehow think that Longer will get at least one more week, purely for playing in a winning team. Hickey’s also has a fair crack, done okay but hasn’t quite made himself a lock for the number 1 ruck, so I think Richo is keen to give Longer a chance to prove that he can do better. From what I’ve seen so far, can’t see it happening.

Agreed also on Brown and his potential replacements. I think they will opt for Austin. Could Bruce come in as a defender?

If you saw Longer chase AR after the game to get a hand shake from the coach - you would have to think he will not be getting dropped this week - he looked very desperate to get in the coaches face
Ryder has not been quite "right" this year - he had a quiet game last week against a Kruezer-less carlton and has not been hitting the scoreboard. If Longer is to get a scalp this year then a port game is a must.

Webster in if fit - but I would like to keep the irishman in for another week instead of elevating Gilbert

Its not about "tanking" vs winning as a recent inane thread suggests - its all about seeing young guys that perform well in the twos getting a crack so we can see IF they will make it under the increased pressure of the AFL
Heres a hint people - most of ports goals come from on-ballers
Its all about 2019...

I heard Kane Cornes on the radio say that Ryder had still not gotten over some injury he has been playing with, and that he hopes that Ryder plays up forward and somebody else (Charlie Dixon, I think it was) plays in the ruck. If that is the case then you'd think Longer would be the best candidate, but we can't rely on that, given that Ryder was the difference the last time we played them over there. We need to be mindful that Billy has only played 2 games in a row, with a bye in between, so he'll improve with senior conditioning.

I wouldn't make wholesale changes to a team that has won the previous two games, but we need to be mindful that the Suns, a perennial cellar dweller, and Melbourne, a side who haven't played finals for 12 years, are not even close to Port Adelaide's challenge, although we should've beaten them last year with a very inexperienced side (no Roo, Joey or Shinna played in that match). This is our third away match in a row, and how funny would it be if we miraculously managed to get up?

Can't see it happening as Port have a vastly superior midfield, and that is why I'd play a second ruckman (perhaps try Marshall again) if our first choice starts to get beaten. Webster in for Weller, Goddard in for Brown, and leave Joyce in (he performed alright under trying circumstances, I thought). This might be the game to try Freeman as his pace would be handy on Adelaide Oval.

[samuraisaint]

As long as a win does not result in the Club not continuing to address the tail that costs us as it has and does

So Longer, Newnes, Weller remain the focus noting Brown is now injured

Assuming Acres is not available I would include Bruce (he came to us as a defender), Hickey, Marshall and Freeman

I was dismayed to see Battle and McCartin having to assume the Ruck responsibilities

And Webster for Geary if Webster is fit

In response to those who say Geary is fearless in the contest that is a not negotiable requirement of every player - plus I still have a query on Savage where if we could combine Geary and Savage you would have what we should be aspiring to

McKenzie seemed ok from a screen

Heat, humidity then rain - and at 7.45PM Russia were still alive on penalties

Spot on about the rucking situation - people can say whatever they like, but with the personnel we have, playing two ruckmen is a must. Longer must stay in, he will improve with more consecutive games, and one of either Marshall or Hickey needs to come back in. This is obvious I would've thought. Especially given Gawn was the best on ground Sunday, and our full back went down, necessitating playing a foreign-born first gamer on one of the most dangerous full forwards in the league. Marshall would've been an excellent match up for that situation.

[terry smith rules]

And Webster for Geary if Webster is fit

In response to those who say Geary is fearless in the contest that is a not negotiable requirement of every player - plus I still have a query on Savage where if we could combine Geary and Savage you would have what we should be aspiring to

Seriously you are so boring with your continual Geary attacks.

[samuraisaint]

Josh Battle sustained a fractured eye socket against Melbourne and will miss 2-3 weeks. I assume the other Josh, Bruce, will come back in for him. Nathan Brown has a hamstring injury, so Goddard would be the likely replacement for him, at full back. Have to find a player to come our for Jimmy Webster if he's fit. That's three likely changes to the team that has won 2 games in a row.

[longtimesaint]

And Webster for Geary if Webster is fit

In response to those who say Geary is fearless in the contest that is a not negotiable requirement of every player - plus I still have a query on Savage where if we could combine Geary and Savage you would have what we should be aspiring to

Seriously you are so boring with your continual Geary attacks.

Geary is one of the first picked and is very important to our backline structure.
Anyone who can’t see that have little knowledg of football.
He used to have some problems with disposal but he has worked on this and is now very reliable.

[Zed]

I see everyone has been smashing the bongs since the final siren on Sunday?

Just freakin wow.

[older saint]

Out: Brown (inj) , Battle (inj) ,

In: Austin, Bruce,