This is the most hopeless stkilda team I have ever seen
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This is the most hopeless stkilda team I have ever seen
Been to the footy since I was a kid in about 1987.
I have seem some terrible stkilda teams like the 2000/2001 team, but at least in those dark days we had a hopeful good player who was Robert Harvey.
This current team has nobody. There is not a single good player. Not one player who will shine a light in the quagmire of losses. Older people may remember Trevor Barker doing the same thing.
But today it is dire. Usually I am angry but now I just feel hopeless. How has it come to this, that we do not have one good player? Not one who youd turn up to watch no matter the ladder position.
I have seem some terrible stkilda teams like the 2000/2001 team, but at least in those dark days we had a hopeful good player who was Robert Harvey.
This current team has nobody. There is not a single good player. Not one player who will shine a light in the quagmire of losses. Older people may remember Trevor Barker doing the same thing.
But today it is dire. Usually I am angry but now I just feel hopeless. How has it come to this, that we do not have one good player? Not one who youd turn up to watch no matter the ladder position.
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Re: This is the most hopeless stkilda team I have ever seen
78-86 teams were just as bad if not worse
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Re: This is the most hopeless stkilda team I have ever seen
That appears incredibly negative. Until you analyse it. Then it's just sadly true. We do have good players, but no-one great. Jack Steven is good (wasn't tonight) Jake Carlisle is good.ralphsmith wrote: ↑Sat 09 Jun 2018 11:41pm Been to the footy since I was a kid in about 1987.
I have seem some terrible stkilda teams like the 2000/2001 team, but at least in those dark days we had a hopeful good player who was Robert Harvey.
This current team has nobody. There is not a single good player. Not one player who will shine a light in the quagmire of losses. Older people may remember Trevor Barker doing the same thing.
But today it is dire. Usually I am angry but now I just feel hopeless. How has it come to this, that we do not have one good player? Not one who youd turn up to watch no matter the ladder position.
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Re: This is the most hopeless stkilda team I have ever seen
I’d be ok if I felt hopeless. But I actually don’t feel anything. Perhaps a touch of sadness if anything that I’m fast falling out of love with something that I’ve loved for 40 years.
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Re: This is the most hopeless stkilda team I have ever seen
We were so much worse in the 80's.
Oh my goodness we were worse.
Oh my goodness we were worse.
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Re: This is the most hopeless stkilda team I have ever seen
Saints should just go to having a stand alone VFL side playing out of Moorabbin.
The AFL should ditch GWS, GC and the Saints. Start a new side in Tassie. Go to 16 teams.
We could probably seriously win a few flags in the VFL.
The AFL should ditch GWS, GC and the Saints. Start a new side in Tassie. Go to 16 teams.
We could probably seriously win a few flags in the VFL.
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Re: This is the most hopeless stkilda team I have ever seen
My Ice Magic chocolate coating is harder than the saints were tonight.
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Re: This is the most hopeless stkilda team I have ever seen
I'm amazed by our coaches' commitment to hopelessness. Down 10+ clearances most of the game, stoppage after stoppage we had some combination of Dunstan, Ross, Steele and Steven. We've now lost the clearances nine times this year and made very few changes in the centre. And it's not like those guys are particularly good once the ball exits the stoppage. I feel like after 1 win from 12, we should at least be trying some things out.
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Re: This is the most hopeless stkilda team I have ever seen
Not 78!! That was a fabulous team and if not for the Essendon whiners we would’ve made finals that year.
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Re: This is the most hopeless stkilda team I have ever seen
Bruce
Carlisle
Geary
Roberton
Acres
Gilbert
Long
Stevens
All unavailable all would make a difference
Carlisle
Geary
Roberton
Acres
Gilbert
Long
Stevens
All unavailable all would make a difference
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Re: This is the most hopeless stkilda team I have ever seen
Meant 79 to 86BringBackMadDog wrote: ↑Sat 09 Jun 2018 11:59pmNot 78!! That was a fabulous team and if not for the Essendon whiners we would’ve made finals that year.
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Re: This is the most hopeless stkilda team I have ever seen
LOL. Gilbert and Stevens.
Everyone has injuries. Swans had Mills, Reid, Jack, Naismith and Melican out.
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Re: This is the most hopeless stkilda team I have ever seen
The problem is we can't afford to have the better players out due to a total lack of depth (and skill)Con Gorozidis wrote: ↑Sun 10 Jun 2018 12:02amLOL. Gilbert and Stevens.
Everyone has injuries. Swans had Mills, Reid, Jack, Naismith and Melican out.
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Re: This is the most hopeless stkilda team I have ever seen
Swans appear to have a limitless supply of players who just step up and become A grade players.
Our guys dont read the play well, basic skills are executed poorly or with hesitancy.
There are some on our team that are out there on the ground, but appear to be mentally off somewhere else. With the fairies so to speak. It is fascinating and tragic to watch.
Where are they? Do they not want to be AFL players? They dont seem to understand the gift thats been given to them.
This is so dire. Sorry for the drama.
Our guys dont read the play well, basic skills are executed poorly or with hesitancy.
There are some on our team that are out there on the ground, but appear to be mentally off somewhere else. With the fairies so to speak. It is fascinating and tragic to watch.
Where are they? Do they not want to be AFL players? They dont seem to understand the gift thats been given to them.
This is so dire. Sorry for the drama.
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Re: This is the most hopeless stkilda team I have ever seen
This side should move to Tasmania. Close down the Gold coast Suns. Get their good players....maybe 5/6. Get 12 $million a year from the AFL, good some good recruits.
The end is not in sight....
The end is not in sight....
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Re: This is the most hopeless stkilda team I have ever seen
Lots of boys back then may have been ordinary players but they had allot of heart .
They looked like they gave everything out on the field.
These guys may have of heart but allota of time you wouldn't know it. They sulk off the ground but in a couple of hours will be poppin pingas till dawn then latte's before morning rehab . Watch sandy in the arvo
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I know I am lucky. I started when Lockett was rising. Winmar...etc. I missed the true horror of the 80s.
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Agree.
But Tassie wouldnt even want us.
They want either their own side or to keep the current arrangements with North and the Hawks.
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It helps that the AFL keeps gifting them top-5 picks they haven't earned. We finished last in 2014 and Heeney, who has arguably been the best player out of that draft, wasn't available to us. Cost Sydney pick 18. Mills cost them a pile of trash picks.ralphsmith wrote: ↑Sun 10 Jun 2018 12:11am Swans appear to have a limitless supply of players who just step up and become A grade players.
Another one on the way this year in Blakey.
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We've got plenty of good playersralphsmith wrote: ↑Sun 10 Jun 2018 12:11am Swans appear to have a limitless supply of players who just step up and become A grade players.
Our guys dont read the play well, basic skills are executed poorly or with hesitancy.
There are some on our team that are out there on the ground, but appear to be mentally off somewhere else. With the fairies so to speak. It is fascinating and tragic to watch.
Where are they? Do they not want to be AFL players? They dont seem to understand the gift thats been given to them.
This is so dire. Sorry for the drama.
The swans look good because they have good coaches.
Our coaches are simply not up to the job
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100% correct not to mention the gift Buddy Franklin. Put Buddy in our side and see how we go.vacuous space wrote: ↑Sun 10 Jun 2018 12:15amIt helps that the AFL keeps gifting them top-5 picks they haven't earned. We finished last in 2014 and Heeney, who has arguably been the best player out of that draft, wasn't available to us. Cost Sydney pick 18. Mills cost them a pile of trash picks.ralphsmith wrote: ↑Sun 10 Jun 2018 12:11am Swans appear to have a limitless supply of players who just step up and become A grade players.
Another one on the way this year in Blakey.
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You know any club can bid on these players right? We could have bid on Heeney at pick 1 if we thought he was worth it and Swans would have to find picks to match.vacuous space wrote: ↑Sun 10 Jun 2018 12:15amIt helps that the AFL keeps gifting them top-5 picks they haven't earned. We finished last in 2014 and Heeney, who has arguably been the best player out of that draft, wasn't available to us. Cost Sydney pick 18. Mills cost them a pile of trash picks.ralphsmith wrote: ↑Sun 10 Jun 2018 12:11am Swans appear to have a limitless supply of players who just step up and become A grade players.
Another one on the way this year in Blakey.
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Re: This is the most hopeless stkilda team I have ever see
Correct. One year we lost three in a row by 100+
This ain’t nothing compared to early-mid 80s.