Hickey dominated Nic Nat

[kosifantutti]

By the way, the answer to your question is: your coffee cost you a $10 note, $4 and a couple of hrs off your life!!!!

$14! I didn't expect you to get it right but I thought you'd get closer than that. My apologies for giving you too much credit.

Now run along. I think I heard David King calling you. He just wants to confirm that Carlisle cost us pick 6.

[stonecold]

By the way, the answer to your question is: your coffee cost you a $10 note, $4 and a couple of hrs off your life!!!!

$14! I didn't expect you to get it right but I thought you'd get closer than that. My apologies for giving you too much credit.

Now run along. I think I heard David King calling you. He just wants to confirm that Carlisle cost us pick 6.

As I said, not a cryptic bone in your Caffeine riddled old body!!!!!

By the way, stop getting your Caffeine fix from Macca's, you tight arse!!!!!

[To the top]

Still going!

Longer would struggle to get a game with the Ceduna 4ths

Longer is not athletic and can not catch a ball

Will be delisted at season's end and will not find a 3rd Club

St Kilda made a mistake in trading McEvoy because they expected to recruit Longer - which they did

Should have left Longer to Hawthorn

Barry Brooks was far superior to Longer

And Maguire was also a far better ruckman

As was Jason Blake

Come in spudome

[stonecold]

Still going!

Longer would struggle to get a game with the Ceduna 4ths

Longer is not athletic and can not catch a ball

Will be delisted at season's end and will not find a 3rd Club

St Kilda made a mistake in trading McEvoy because they expected to recruit Longer - which they did

Should have left Longer to Hawthorn

Barry Brooks was far superior to Longer

And Maguire was also a far better ruckman

As was Jason Blake

Come in spudome

Kindergarten finished already?????

[The_Dud]

I think the truth sits somewhere between this thread title and Stoney’s opinion.

I think you’ve gone so far down the bagging Hickey road Stoney that you can’t turn back, or too stubborn to even give a little ground.

For someone who claims a ruckmans number one job is the ruck, and not possessions around the ground, the fact you can’t give Hickey even a little recognition for us being +7 in clearances against the Eagles, who the week before went +10 in clearances against McEvoy and the Hawks midfield, is ludicrous.

He’s not AA, he’s probably not going to be in our next premiership side, but he is without a doubt the best option we have right now. I don’t think anyone is saying we shouldn’t try find a better option come seasons end, but for now he’s it.

And you seem to give so much credit to the opinions of experts (ex players), well how about the ex players who pick Hickey in our team every week?

You may as well back him til the end of the year, as nothings going to change til then!

[chico2001]

Dont give him an easy out Dud......Hickey is the man we got right now and that's it.

[stonecold]

I think the truth sits somewhere between this thread title and Stoney’s opinion.

I think you’ve gone so far down the bagging Hickey road Stoney that you can’t turn back, or too stubborn to even give a little ground.

For someone who claims a ruckmans number one job is the ruck, and not possessions around the ground, the fact you can’t give Hickey even a little recognition for us being +7 in clearances against the Eagles, who the week before went +10 in clearances against McEvoy and the Hawks midfield, is ludicrous.

He’s not AA, he’s probably not going to be in our next premiership side, but he is without a doubt the best option we have right now. I don’t think anyone is saying we shouldn’t try find a better option come seasons end, but for now he’s it.

And you seem to give so much credit to the opinions of experts (ex players), well how about the ex players who pick Hickey in our team every week?

You may as well back him til the end of the year, as nothings going to change til then!

He won't be there till the end of the year, Hickey is only selected cause he is fit and Longer is not at the moment!!!!!

I know this as fact!!!!!

Our coaching staff don't rate he's possessions in high regard because they are not damaging (ahla Grundy), he is also incapable of defending his opponent and about as strong in the contest as a wet paper towel!!!!!

Let's see what happens if Billy can get fully for!!!!!

In the mean time, all the best to Tom, don't hate him, just don't rate him!!!!!

It would be nice to get a win for him, however they may have to help remember the words, it's been a while!!!!!

[bigcarl]

He won't be there till the end of the year, Hickey is only selected cause he is fit and Longer is not at the moment!!!!!

I know this as fact!!!!!

Our coaching staff don't rate he's possessions in high regard because they are not damaging (ahla Grundy), he is also incapable of defending his opponent and about as strong in the contest as a wet paper towel!!!!!

Let's see what happens if Billy can get fully for!!!!!

In the mean time, all the best to Tom, don't hate him, just don't rate him!!!!!

It would be nice to get a win for him, however they may have to help remember the words, it's been a while!!!!!

Billy couldn't have said it better himself. You're not him are you?

[stonecold]

He won't be there till the end of the year, Hickey is only selected cause he is fit and Longer is not at the moment!!!!!

I know this as fact!!!!!

Our coaching staff don't rate he's possessions in high regard because they are not damaging (ahla Grundy), he is also incapable of defending his opponent and about as strong in the contest as a wet paper towel!!!!!

Let's see what happens if Billy can get fully for!!!!!

In the mean time, all the best to Tom, don't hate him, just don't rate him!!!!!

It would be nice to get a win for him, however they may have to help remember the words, it's been a while!!!!!

Billy couldn't have said it better himself. You're not him are you?

Yeah sure!!!!!

[The_Dud]

Out of interest, what is Billy’s injury? As he’s played most weeks in the VFL?

[stonecold]

Out of interest, what is Billy’s injury? As he’s played most weeks in the VFL?

Still Hip Flexor, little bit of groin soreness as well, little to no preseason didn't help either, not unlike Tom last year, the difference is Billy has a stronger ability to play through pain, and is in the final year of contract!!!!!

[samuraisaint]

Natanui got lucky a few times - threw the ball a few times at least, and never got pinged for it, got paid a mark from behind when Marshall took it, and the ridiculous 50 metres when Seb reminded the ump of the rules gifted him a goal. Wasn't a perfect night from our rucks, but they went alright. I thought West Coast run out of puff and were at serious risk of being overrun, but again, or marks weren't paid and we still didn't manage to get a win.
Think Marshall could fill a place for one of our talls in the back line this week, maybe play Hickey up forward, and bring Longer in for ruck duties. We still didn't win in Perth, and Geary is injured, so we'll need to make a few changes.
What do we have to lose?
This week we must stay in the game longer (no pun intended) and build for the Suns game the week after which is must win.

[barneyboyz]

My take on it is this. if we ever get another opportunity at a granny (have to qualify that, being the saints), we simply must have on our list and in a healthy state, minimum 3 capable ruckmen, two of which are in form and the other, a most determined and competitive replacement that could come in at a pinch.

Question: In 66, 97, 09 and 10 did we go into any one of those grand finals with a fully fit No. 1 ruckman?

We have at least 4 ruckmen on the list at the moment, and I don't know which is capable of getting a gig if it came about next year, but we must target another No. 1 this or next year

[sunsaint]

I know this as fact!!!!!

Our coaching staff don't rate he's possessions in high regard because they are not damaging (ahla Grundy), he is also incapable of defending his opponent and about as strong in the contest as a wet paper towel!!!!!

Let's see what happens if Billy can get fully for!!!!!

a couple of glaring holes in your ITK logic here stonecold
If the coaching staff dont rate Hickeys' possessions- then Longer will NEVER get a game
"Billy not fully for"? - fit enough to play in the VFL but not in seniors ???

[stonecold]

I know this as fact!!!!!

Our coaching staff don't rate he's possessions in high regard because they are not damaging (ahla Grundy), he is also incapable of defending his opponent and about as strong in the contest as a wet paper towel!!!!!

Let's see what happens if Billy can get fully for!!!!!

a couple of glaring holes in your ITK logic here stonecold
If the coaching staff dont rate Hickeys' possessions- then Longer will NEVER get a game
"Billy not fully for"? - fit enough to play in the VFL but not in seniors ???

No there's not, Tom came in when Billy was Injured, Billy hasn't been fully fit all season, its pretty simple really, tell me this:

how many players run around in the AFL/VFL are fully fit?????

Our coaches would prefer quality ball users, not ruckman (unless like Grundy/Gawn), Tom Hickey often happens to be in the way whilst getting cheap touches!!!!!

Have whatever theory you like on it, that's how it is, as I said before, if Billy can recover and get fit, let's see who gets picked?????

No holes anywhere, that's how it is, it's irrelevant what you have to say, just doesn't concern or wash we me!!!!!

[sunsaint]

ok ignore the second point completely - noted for all to see
and I can also say that HIckey is not 100% "fully fit" just like you say not many players are
see its easy to make stuff up

If he's injured he shouldnt be playing
if he is playing - then he is just good enough to displace Hickey
not spin, its not irrelevant - it is how it is

[sunsaint]

oh and PS - how many other threads do you have to ruin to attack hickey?

[stonecold]

ok ignore the second point completely - noted for all to see
and I can also say that HIckey is not 100% "fully fit" just like you say not many players are
see its easy to make stuff up


not spin, its not irrelevant - it is how it is

What ever, you really have zero to no football club experience at any level, do you?????

If you think players are all playing 100%, your a true keyboard cowboy!!!!!

Bye, bye: also
Good to see you have seen the light!!!!!

Your words:

If he's injured he shouldnt be playing
if he is playing - then he is just good enough to displace Hickey.

Says a lot, now go away please and thank you!!!!!

[stonecold]

oh and PS - how many other threads do you have to ruin to attack hickey?

Not attacking Hickey, as stated, don't hate him, just don't rate him!!!!!

Oh and PPS, how many threads do you to ruin by just posting uneducated dribble?????

Do yourself a favour, get off the forum and go and have a kick somewhere and actually learn the game!!!!!

I seriously can not believe there is people like you that actually think players are all playing at 100% fitness, I feel sorry for you and your lack of football knowledge, #gobsmacked!!!!!

[stonecold]

By the way, sundowner, Billy not rated????? Doesn't even play last week, yet still named emergency for St.Kilda, not rated, yeah right, he will be taking Tom place before you know it!!!!!

[The_Dud]

By the way, sundowner, Billy not rated????? Doesn't even play last week, yet still named emergency for St.Kilda, not rated, yeah right, he will be taking Tom place before you know it!!!!!

I have a feeling Stoney you’re about to have your very own ‘I, Tonya’ moment

[kosifantutti]

By the way, sundowner, Billy not rated????? Doesn't even play last week, yet still named emergency for St.Kilda, not rated, yeah right, he will be taking Tom place before you know it!!!!!

Billy’s not an emergency, but stonecold and facts don’t always go together.

[Viscount Jeremiah]

Hickey has been pretty decent against some of the best rucks this year. Certainly playing at a level that's well above anything Longer has ever produced.

[kosifantutti]

By the way, sundowner, Billy not rated????? Doesn't even play last week, yet still named emergency for St.Kilda, not rated, yeah right, he will be taking Tom place before you know it!!!!!

Billy’s not an emergency, but stonecold and facts don’t always go together.

Apologies Stoney. Saints.com.au does list Billy as one of 3 emergencies but the app has 4 and Billy is not one of them. I think they name 4 these days but who knows with the Saints admin?

[saynta]

Hey Stonecold. Hickey coming up as the guest on foxtell's " The,Weekend Lowdown at 8.30,tonight.


Oops sorry mate, he is on 360 now.