Carlisle
Moderators: Saintsational Administrators, Saintsational Moderators
- skeptic
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 16882
- Joined: Wed 10 Mar 2004 7:10pm
- Has thanked: 3580 times
- Been thanked: 2842 times
Re: Carlisle
I’d also point out that Carlisle doesn’t collect JR’s head with his hand/fist... the actual contact is with his forearm.
In terms of severity, I think that should count for something. You can’t exactly hurt someone with your forearm, so in all actuality it’s the fall that caused the injury.
To be honest... I would say free kick is all it deserved
In terms of severity, I think that should count for something. You can’t exactly hurt someone with your forearm, so in all actuality it’s the fall that caused the injury.
To be honest... I would say free kick is all it deserved
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 23010
- Joined: Wed 10 Mar 2004 3:53pm
- Has thanked: 8902 times
- Been thanked: 3883 times
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 11322
- Joined: Thu 11 Mar 2004 12:57am
- Location: South of Heaven
- Has thanked: 1312 times
- Been thanked: 447 times
Re: Carlisle
He shouldn't have to answer to anything. Clearly an accident, as none of Riewoldt's teammates remonstrated with Carlisle after the incident. Of course Richmond supporters used that as a reason to boo him all day.
Curb your enthusiasm - you’re a St.Kilda supporter!!
![Image](https://i.imgur.com/LkJcQq3.jpg?2)
![Image](https://i.imgur.com/LkJcQq3.jpg?2)
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 23010
- Joined: Wed 10 Mar 2004 3:53pm
- Has thanked: 8902 times
- Been thanked: 3883 times
Re: Carlisle
Ferals.Sainternist wrote: ↑Sun 27 May 2018 4:10pm He shouldn't have to answer to anything. Clearly an accident, as none of Riewoldt's teammates remonstrated with Carlisle after the incident. Of course Richmond supporters used that as a reason to boo him all day.
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 11546
- Joined: Sun 11 Sep 2011 2:26pm
- Has thanked: 3519 times
- Been thanked: 2464 times
Re: Carlisle
We all know the AFL can rule either way and there's confusion and inconsistency no matter what the structures ( 1 person or a review panel last few years) because the AFL has profits and ratings as its primary concerns before determining any suspensions.
Cox could have cuased Johannesson a serious neck injury and yet he is cleared to play for a reckless and dangerous act. Are they seriously wanting the public to believe that thesystem for suspending players is based on common sense or fairness. When Buddy knocked out Hamling they also deemed it accidental. WTF. Since when is it ok to fend off or break a tackle by splitting someone's chin and they are concussed for the remainder of the match?
Ryna Burton chose to bump and put Shaun Higgins in hospital because of on accidental head knock. Higgins was concussed and missed weeks of footy. The Match Review and Micheal Christian cleared Burton because they deemed it was accidental...
Cox had a choice and he chose to drive his hip into Jason's neck. Buddy had a choice and he chose to to use his elbow to break free. Burton had a choice and he chose to bump instead of shepherd. What choice did Carlisle have when the footy is right there and you are spoiling? It's a pure footy incident and purely incidental contact. If Carlisle is suspended the club needs to challenge
Cox could have cuased Johannesson a serious neck injury and yet he is cleared to play for a reckless and dangerous act. Are they seriously wanting the public to believe that thesystem for suspending players is based on common sense or fairness. When Buddy knocked out Hamling they also deemed it accidental. WTF. Since when is it ok to fend off or break a tackle by splitting someone's chin and they are concussed for the remainder of the match?
Ryna Burton chose to bump and put Shaun Higgins in hospital because of on accidental head knock. Higgins was concussed and missed weeks of footy. The Match Review and Micheal Christian cleared Burton because they deemed it was accidental...
Cox had a choice and he chose to drive his hip into Jason's neck. Buddy had a choice and he chose to to use his elbow to break free. Burton had a choice and he chose to bump instead of shepherd. What choice did Carlisle have when the footy is right there and you are spoiling? It's a pure footy incident and purely incidental contact. If Carlisle is suspended the club needs to challenge
- The Fireman
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 13239
- Joined: Mon 08 Mar 2004 11:54pm
- Has thanked: 643 times
- Been thanked: 1907 times
-
- Club Player
- Posts: 1867
- Joined: Fri 28 Oct 2016 11:59pm
- Has thanked: 54 times
- Been thanked: 269 times
Re: Carlisle
2-3 weeks as Riewoldt left the ground and didn't return. MRP must take a stand or there will be outrage
Last edited by DJ Higgins on Mon 28 May 2018 1:31pm, edited 1 time in total.
-
- Club Player
- Posts: 1392
- Joined: Wed 10 Mar 2004 5:15pm
- Location: Melbourne
- Has thanked: 29 times
- Been thanked: 27 times
Re: Carlisle
I don't know if the MRP necessarily should be taking a stand against accidental high conduct.DJ Higgins wrote: ↑Mon 28 May 2018 10:37am 2-3 weeks as Riewoldt left the ground and didn't return. MRP must take a stand or their be outrage
- Enrico_Misso
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 11662
- Joined: Tue 13 Jun 2006 12:11am
- Location: Moorabbin Chapter of The Royal Society of Hagiographers
- Has thanked: 315 times
- Been thanked: 720 times
Re: Carlisle
Looking at the slo-mo it does look like JR did most of the damage to himself in his awkward landing.
Will MC look favourably on that or still deem the contact caused the awkward fall and hold Jake responsible?
Answer - who would know at the MRP continues to be a (un)lucky dip!
Will MC look favourably on that or still deem the contact caused the awkward fall and hold Jake responsible?
Answer - who would know at the MRP continues to be a (un)lucky dip!
The rest of Australia can wander mask-free, socialise, eat out, no curfews, no zoning, no police rings of steel, no illogical inconsistent rules.
They can even WATCH LIVE FOOTY!
They can even WATCH LIVE FOOTY!
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 18579
- Joined: Thu 11 Mar 2004 1:36am
- Has thanked: 1904 times
- Been thanked: 840 times
Re: Carlisle
Ah well, it will give Hugh Goddard a chance. Apparently he was quite good yesterday for Sandi.
- dragit
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 13047
- Joined: Tue 29 Jun 2010 11:56am
- Has thanked: 605 times
- Been thanked: 315 times
Re: Carlisle
Think it will be a couple of weeks, but I reckon Rance would get off for doing exactly the same thing.
E.g. How on earth Fyfe runs into a pack trying to kick the ball and knocked Carlisle out isn't considered a dangerous and reckless action is a joke.
E.g. How on earth Fyfe runs into a pack trying to kick the ball and knocked Carlisle out isn't considered a dangerous and reckless action is a joke.
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 18579
- Joined: Thu 11 Mar 2004 1:36am
- Has thanked: 1904 times
- Been thanked: 840 times
Re: Carlisle
I couldn’t agree more and I think the club should point this out vigorously and publicly if he gets a couple.
They see Jake as a bad egg because of a few past incidents.
Big stars such as Buddy and Fyfe are given the benefit of the doubt that contact was accidental, but Carlisle would have purposely fixed him up because he’s a dog and he plays for a s*** club anyway ... that’s how they see these types of things
- Grrrrr
- Club Player
- Posts: 793
- Joined: Fri 16 Sep 2005 11:47am
- Has thanked: 1 time
- Been thanked: 2 times
Re: Carlisle
I'd argue that the head knock JR received the week before contributed to his concussion on the weekend. At one stage he was not going to play.
So should get off but with the inconsistencies of the tribunal, 1 week.
So should get off but with the inconsistencies of the tribunal, 1 week.
- WellardSaint
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 8255
- Joined: Sat 26 May 2012 11:25am
- Location: Perth- the best weather in Oz, but the worst rednecks.
- Has thanked: 1849 times
- Been thanked: 869 times
Re: Carlisle
how about the lack of remonstration from other Tigers?
And the fact that it wasn't a 50m penalty, just a "too high" free?
Contact occurred in the act of spoiling, simple, to me anyway.
He might just get a fine.
Because WCE had a good win, maybe the AFL don't need to help them as much,
and we're no threat anyway.
And the fact that it wasn't a 50m penalty, just a "too high" free?
Contact occurred in the act of spoiling, simple, to me anyway.
He might just get a fine.
Because WCE had a good win, maybe the AFL don't need to help them as much,
and we're no threat anyway.
A real Sainter will pledge allegiance to the ❤![🤍](//cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/twitter/twemoji@latest/assets/svg/1f90d.svg)
and despise the Pies, the Blues, and the Injectors.
Remember one of the 10 Commandments : Thou shalt have no other team before thee
Remember one of the 10 Commandments : Thou shalt have no other team before thee
- The Fireman
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 13239
- Joined: Mon 08 Mar 2004 11:54pm
- Has thanked: 643 times
- Been thanked: 1907 times
Re: Carlisle
maybe his team mates dont like himWellardSaint wrote: ↑Mon 28 May 2018 12:56pm how about the lack of remonstration from other Tigers?
And the fact that it wasn't a 50m penalty, just a "too high" free?
Contact occurred in the act of spoiling, simple, to me anyway.
He might just get a fine.
Because WCE had a good win, maybe the AFL don't need to help them as much,
and we're no threat anyway.
-
- Club Player
- Posts: 1867
- Joined: Fri 28 Oct 2016 11:59pm
- Has thanked: 54 times
- Been thanked: 269 times
Re: Carlisle
ahhh but there was high contact causing an opposition player to not play for the rest of the game. I agree that it wasn't intentional or there there was any malice in it but Tigers lost a player due to a clumsy effort. Id say 2-3 weeks possibly knocked down to 1 week if he takes the early pleaMilne wrote: ↑Mon 28 May 2018 10:42amI don't know if the MRP necessarily should be taking a stand against accidental high conduct.DJ Higgins wrote: ↑Mon 28 May 2018 10:37am 2-3 weeks as Riewoldt left the ground and didn't return. MRP must take a stand or their be outrage
- rodgerfox
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 9059
- Joined: Wed 10 Mar 2004 9:10am
- Has thanked: 425 times
- Been thanked: 327 times
Re: Carlisle
They're not there to make stands.DJ Higgins wrote: ↑Mon 28 May 2018 1:35pmahhh but there was high contact causing an opposition player to not play for the rest of the game. I agree that it wasn't intentional or there there was any malice in it but Tigers lost a player due to a clumsy effort. Id say 2-3 weeks possibly knocked down to 1 week if he takes the early pleaMilne wrote: ↑Mon 28 May 2018 10:42amI don't know if the MRP necessarily should be taking a stand against accidental high conduct.DJ Higgins wrote: ↑Mon 28 May 2018 10:37am 2-3 weeks as Riewoldt left the ground and didn't return. MRP must take a stand or their be outrage
They're there to tick boxes.
High contact: tick
High impact: tick (given he was concussed)
Careless: ?
Reckless: ?
Intentional: No.
Do the sums, and you'll get your verdict.
Careless high contact with high impact = 2 weeks.
His only hope is if it's deemed a pure accident. Which is probably doubtful.
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 18579
- Joined: Thu 11 Mar 2004 1:36am
- Has thanked: 1904 times
- Been thanked: 840 times
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 6582
- Joined: Sat 11 Jun 2011 4:52pm
- Location: Here
- Has thanked: 1274 times
- Been thanked: 463 times
Re: Carlisle
Appeal
As ex-president Peter Summers said:
“If we are going to be a contender, we may as well plan to win the bloody thing.”
St Kilda - At least we have a Crest!
“If we are going to be a contender, we may as well plan to win the bloody thing.”
St Kilda - At least we have a Crest!
- Sainter_Dad
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 6285
- Joined: Thu 05 Jun 2008 1:04pm
- Has thanked: 260 times
- Been thanked: 1097 times
Re: Carlisle
We have to stand behind Jake and appeal this - FFS Cox got a fine for his intentional bump
Even if we lose the appeal - we need to show some guts and belief in Jake!
Even if we lose the appeal - we need to show some guts and belief in Jake!
“Youth ages, immaturity is outgrown, ignorance can be educated, and drunkenness sobered, but stupid lasts forever.”
― Aristophanes
If you have a Bee in your Bonnet - I can assist you with that - but it WILL involve some smacking upside the head!
― Aristophanes
If you have a Bee in your Bonnet - I can assist you with that - but it WILL involve some smacking upside the head!
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 18579
- Joined: Thu 11 Mar 2004 1:36am
- Has thanked: 1904 times
- Been thanked: 840 times
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 11322
- Joined: Thu 11 Mar 2004 12:57am
- Location: South of Heaven
- Has thanked: 1312 times
- Been thanked: 447 times
Re: Carlisle
What BS. Now two games against two of the better teams without our most in form player ![Sad :(](./images/smilies/icon_sad.gif)
![Sad :(](./images/smilies/icon_sad.gif)
Curb your enthusiasm - you’re a St.Kilda supporter!!
![Image](https://i.imgur.com/LkJcQq3.jpg?2)
![Image](https://i.imgur.com/LkJcQq3.jpg?2)
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 10120
- Joined: Fri 16 Feb 2007 3:24pm
- Location: WARBURTON
- Has thanked: 145 times
- Been thanked: 1299 times
Re: Carlisle
Typical of the AFL and MRP to finger us. Cox performs a far more dangerous act and its all good. Fyfe, Buddy no case to answer. We have always copped these rubbish calls and the AFL know we will accept it and the media will say nothing about it.
NO IFS OR BUTS HARVS IS KING OF THE AFL
- bigred
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 11463
- Joined: Tue 09 Mar 2004 7:39am
- Has thanked: 25 times
- Been thanked: 609 times
Re: Carlisle
Really should appeal.
I would not expect him to get off because he still knocked the bloke out. However I would be hoping to get it reduced.
Stand by your player St Kilda. Stop ripping everyone off.
I would not expect him to get off because he still knocked the bloke out. However I would be hoping to get it reduced.
Stand by your player St Kilda. Stop ripping everyone off.
"Now the ball is loose, it gives St. Kilda a rough chance. Black. Good handpass. Voss. Schwarze now, the defender, can run and from a long way".....