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Too many Chiefs
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Aaron Hamill Assistant Coach/VFL Head Coach - Sandringham
Adam Kingsley Transition Coach
Adam Skrobalak Assistant Coach/VFL Head Coach - Frankston
Alan Richardson Senior Coach
Alison Miles Nutritionist
Andrea Farrow Player Development Coordinator
Andrew Waddington Head Trainer
Andrew Wallis Head Physiotherapist
Ben McGlynn Assistant Coach
Ben Dixon Assistant Coach
Callum Willis Football Technology Assistant
Chris Liberatore State Recruiting Manager
Chris Toce State Recruiting Manager
Chris McKay Football Technology Assistant
Danny Frawley Assistant Coach
Danny Sexton Director of Coaching & Development
Henry Playfair Senior Assistant Coach - Backs
Ian Stone Medical Officer
Jamie Cox Head of Emerging Football Programs
John Beveridge Recruiting Advisor
Josh Low Physical Performance Manager
Julie Rackstraw Executive Assistant - Football
Justin Dickinson Football Technology Trainee
Kane Spagnolo Physiotherapist
Kirsty Kelman List Management & Recruiting Personal Assistant
Lindsay Gilbee Assistant Coach
Luke O'Brien Football Services Manager
Marcus Krygger Strength & Conditioning Coach
Matt Hornsby Head of Performance
Peta Searle Head of Women's Football Pathways/VFLW Senior Coach
Peter Maddern Property Manager
Richard Citroen Physiotherapist
Robbie Chancellor Manager Performance Analysis
Rohan Welsh Senior Assistant Coach - Forwards
Sean Heldsinger Club Chaplain
Simon Guest State Recruiting Manager
Simon Kearney Manager Sports Science & Innovation
Simon Lethlean General Manager - Football
Simon McPhee Senior Assistant Coach - Mids
Steve Forcone Strength & Conditioning Coach
Steve Lennie Pro Scout Manager
Tim Barbour Head Doctor
Tony Brown Player Development Manager
Tony Elshaug Recruiting & List Manager
Wayne Hughes Pro Scout
This is only the football part of the club. We also have 66 (ironically), or so, other positions divided into seven other sections, some with ludicrous titles such as: Media and Stakeholders Relations Advisor!!!
How many of the above positions are actually needed? (Physios, Medical Advisor and Head doctor excluded). What the hell is a Pro Scout Manager? What does a Head Of Emerging Football Programs do for 5 days a week?
The club is swamped in jargon......
Aaron Hamill Assistant Coach/VFL Head Coach - Sandringham
Adam Kingsley Transition Coach
Adam Skrobalak Assistant Coach/VFL Head Coach - Frankston
Alan Richardson Senior Coach
Alison Miles Nutritionist
Andrea Farrow Player Development Coordinator
Andrew Waddington Head Trainer
Andrew Wallis Head Physiotherapist
Ben McGlynn Assistant Coach
Ben Dixon Assistant Coach
Callum Willis Football Technology Assistant
Chris Liberatore State Recruiting Manager
Chris Toce State Recruiting Manager
Chris McKay Football Technology Assistant
Danny Frawley Assistant Coach
Danny Sexton Director of Coaching & Development
Henry Playfair Senior Assistant Coach - Backs
Ian Stone Medical Officer
Jamie Cox Head of Emerging Football Programs
John Beveridge Recruiting Advisor
Josh Low Physical Performance Manager
Julie Rackstraw Executive Assistant - Football
Justin Dickinson Football Technology Trainee
Kane Spagnolo Physiotherapist
Kirsty Kelman List Management & Recruiting Personal Assistant
Lindsay Gilbee Assistant Coach
Luke O'Brien Football Services Manager
Marcus Krygger Strength & Conditioning Coach
Matt Hornsby Head of Performance
Peta Searle Head of Women's Football Pathways/VFLW Senior Coach
Peter Maddern Property Manager
Richard Citroen Physiotherapist
Robbie Chancellor Manager Performance Analysis
Rohan Welsh Senior Assistant Coach - Forwards
Sean Heldsinger Club Chaplain
Simon Guest State Recruiting Manager
Simon Kearney Manager Sports Science & Innovation
Simon Lethlean General Manager - Football
Simon McPhee Senior Assistant Coach - Mids
Steve Forcone Strength & Conditioning Coach
Steve Lennie Pro Scout Manager
Tim Barbour Head Doctor
Tony Brown Player Development Manager
Tony Elshaug Recruiting & List Manager
Wayne Hughes Pro Scout
This is only the football part of the club. We also have 66 (ironically), or so, other positions divided into seven other sections, some with ludicrous titles such as: Media and Stakeholders Relations Advisor!!!
How many of the above positions are actually needed? (Physios, Medical Advisor and Head doctor excluded). What the hell is a Pro Scout Manager? What does a Head Of Emerging Football Programs do for 5 days a week?
The club is swamped in jargon......
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Re: Too many Chiefs
I can't believe we don't have an OH&S and Gender Equality department!
The rest of Australia can wander mask-free, socialise, eat out, no curfews, no zoning, no police rings of steel, no illogical inconsistent rules.
They can even WATCH LIVE FOOTY!
They can even WATCH LIVE FOOTY!
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Re: Too many Chiefs
Probably about half the number of say Collingwood or Essendon. It is getting quite ridiculous.
We do need a Manager for putting things of top of other things though.
We do need a Manager for putting things of top of other things though.
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Re: Too many Chiefs
Bullishit football Jobs.
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Re: Too many Chiefs
No Barista Liaison Manager?
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Re: Too many Chiefs
Apparantly the Saints are only mid rung in the off field staff stakes. Imagine what the bigger clubs are like then. Lol.
Footy truly has become a billion dollar business.
Footy truly has become a billion dollar business.
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Re: Too many Chiefs
Is there a failure acceptance scapegoat?
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Re: Too many Chiefs
Danny Sexton has been at the club since 2006 - that is 12 years and for much of that time he has had a key role in player development, he is currently Director of Coaching. According to Google Sexton was drafted by North Melbourne in 1990 but never actually got to play senior footy. Irrespective of his coaching qualifications, and no doubt he has done all the theory, I am amazed that he is considered to have the personal experience to be a coach at senior AFL level. I can't think of any AFL coach in the modern era who has not played at senior level who has been a successful AFL coach, and yet St Kilda appointed him as Director of Coaching, overseeing the entire coching panel!
Furthermore, in the 12 years that Sexton has been a key figure involved in player development, St Kilda's record in developing new and emerging talent, including a bunch of early draft picks, has by any measure been lamentable. Apart from Gresham, I can't think of one other young recruit who has 'been developed" into a quality player within 3 years - unlike all of the top teams who achieve a high success rate with new recruits. Further evidence of this is the resurgence of North Melbourne in 2018 who were not considered to challenge for the top 8.
If Richo is going to survive this season and the next, the club needs to take a close hard look at making changes to the coaching panel, as did Essendon recently, and shoud look no further than the Diretor of Coaching to provide the required circuit breaker. For my money, I would go all out to recruit David King into that position forthwith - his anayisis of the game is second to none and woild be of enormous benefit to Richo.
Furthermore, in the 12 years that Sexton has been a key figure involved in player development, St Kilda's record in developing new and emerging talent, including a bunch of early draft picks, has by any measure been lamentable. Apart from Gresham, I can't think of one other young recruit who has 'been developed" into a quality player within 3 years - unlike all of the top teams who achieve a high success rate with new recruits. Further evidence of this is the resurgence of North Melbourne in 2018 who were not considered to challenge for the top 8.
If Richo is going to survive this season and the next, the club needs to take a close hard look at making changes to the coaching panel, as did Essendon recently, and shoud look no further than the Diretor of Coaching to provide the required circuit breaker. For my money, I would go all out to recruit David King into that position forthwith - his anayisis of the game is second to none and woild be of enormous benefit to Richo.
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Re: Too many Chiefs
Righto...Sexton then... that's our circuit breakerSanctorum wrote: ↑Sat 26 May 2018 8:28pm Danny Sexton has been at the club since 2006 - that is 12 years and for much of that time he has had a key role in player development, he is currently Director of Coaching. According to Google Sexton was drafted by North Melbourne in 1990 but never actually got to play senior footy. Irrespective of his coaching qualifications, and no doubt he has done all the theory, I am amazed that he is considered to have the personal experience to be a coach at senior AFL level. I can't think of any AFL coach in the modern era who has not played at senior level who has been a successful AFL coach, and yet St Kilda appointed him as Director of Coaching, overseeing the entire coching panel!
Furthermore, in the 12 years that Sexton has been a key figure involved in player development, St Kilda's record in developing new and emerging talent, including a bunch of early draft picks, has by any measure been lamentable. Apart from Gresham, I can't think of one other young recruit who has 'been developed" into a quality player within 3 years - unlike all of the top teams who achieve a high success rate with new recruits. Further evidence of this is the resurgence of North Melbourne in 2018 who were not considered to challenge for the top 8.
If Richo is going to survive this season and the next, the club needs to take a close hard look at making changes to the coaching panel, as did Essendon recently, and shoud look no further than the Diretor of Coaching to provide the required circuit breaker. For my money, I would go all out to recruit David King into that position forthwith - his anayisis of the game is second to none and woild be of enormous benefit to Richo.
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Re: Too many Chiefs
Not enough Cooks - Where is the Psychologist for the goal kicking psychology issues?
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Re: Too many Chiefs
You had me.......then mentioned David King he’s an imbecile really just states the obvious NOSanctorum wrote: ↑Sat 26 May 2018 8:28pm Danny Sexton has been at the club since 2006 - that is 12 years and for much of that time he has had a key role in player development, he is currently Director of Coaching. According to Google Sexton was drafted by North Melbourne in 1990 but never actually got to play senior footy. Irrespective of his coaching qualifications, and no doubt he has done all the theory, I am amazed that he is considered to have the personal experience to be a coach at senior AFL level. I can't think of any AFL coach in the modern era who has not played at senior level who has been a successful AFL coach, and yet St Kilda appointed him as Director of Coaching, overseeing the entire coching panel!
Furthermore, in the 12 years that Sexton has been a key figure involved in player development, St Kilda's record in developing new and emerging talent, including a bunch of early draft picks, has by any measure been lamentable. Apart from Gresham, I can't think of one other young recruit who has 'been developed" into a quality player within 3 years - unlike all of the top teams who achieve a high success rate with new recruits. Further evidence of this is the resurgence of North Melbourne in 2018 who were not considered to challenge for the top 8.
If Richo is going to survive this season and the next, the club needs to take a close hard look at making changes to the coaching panel, as did Essendon recently, and shoud look no further than the Diretor of Coaching to provide the required circuit breaker. For my money, I would go all out to recruit David King into that position forthwith - his anayisis of the game is second to none and woild be of enormous benefit to Richo.
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Re: Too many Chiefs
Just really makes me angry in a cash strapped club to know my money goes to such wastesaintkev wrote: ↑Sat 26 May 2018 6:29pm FOOTBALL
Aaron Hamill Assistant Coach/VFL Head Coach - Sandringham
Adam Kingsley Transition Coach
Adam Skrobalak Assistant Coach/VFL Head Coach - Frankston
Alan Richardson Senior Coach
Alison Miles Nutritionist
Andrea Farrow Player Development Coordinator
Andrew Waddington Head Trainer
Andrew Wallis Head Physiotherapist
Ben McGlynn Assistant Coach
Ben Dixon Assistant Coach
Callum Willis Football Technology Assistant
Chris Liberatore State Recruiting Manager
Chris Toce State Recruiting Manager
Chris McKay Football Technology Assistant
Danny Frawley Assistant Coach
Danny Sexton Director of Coaching & Development
Henry Playfair Senior Assistant Coach - Backs
Ian Stone Medical Officer
Jamie Cox Head of Emerging Football Programs
John Beveridge Recruiting Advisor
Josh Low Physical Performance Manager
Julie Rackstraw Executive Assistant - Football
Justin Dickinson Football Technology Trainee
Kane Spagnolo Physiotherapist
Kirsty Kelman List Management & Recruiting Personal Assistant
Lindsay Gilbee Assistant Coach
Luke O'Brien Football Services Manager
Marcus Krygger Strength & Conditioning Coach
Matt Hornsby Head of Performance
Peta Searle Head of Women's Football Pathways/VFLW Senior Coach
Peter Maddern Property Manager
Richard Citroen Physiotherapist
Robbie Chancellor Manager Performance Analysis
Rohan Welsh Senior Assistant Coach - Forwards
Sean Heldsinger Club Chaplain
Simon Guest State Recruiting Manager
Simon Kearney Manager Sports Science & Innovation
Simon Lethlean General Manager - Football
Simon McPhee Senior Assistant Coach - Mids
Steve Forcone Strength & Conditioning Coach
Steve Lennie Pro Scout Manager
Tim Barbour Head Doctor
Tony Brown Player Development Manager
Tony Elshaug Recruiting & List Manager
Wayne Hughes Pro Scout
This is only the football part of the club. We also have 66 (ironically), or so, other positions divided into seven other sections, some with ludicrous titles such as: Media and Stakeholders Relations Advisor!!!
How many of the above positions are actually needed? (Physios, Medical Advisor and Head doctor excluded). What the hell is a Pro Scout Manager? What does a Head Of Emerging Football Programs do for 5 days a week?
The club is swamped in jargon......
Finnis and SUmmers heads ought to roll - this smacks of cliched “politically correct” corporate jobs that purely add to confusion
ProScouts? WTF?
Emerging FOotball Program?
Transition coach?
Honestly 5 day a week jobs?.. these people are out having coffee all day and us n7mpties are paying for the free ride
Disgraceful
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Re: Too many Chiefs
Don't rent your holiday house to King and his family. they'll trash it and refuse to compensate, happened to a guy i work with.Teflon wrote: ↑Sun 27 May 2018 12:38amYou had me.......then mentioned David King he’s an imbecile really just states the obvious NOSanctorum wrote: ↑Sat 26 May 2018 8:28pm Danny Sexton has been at the club since 2006 - that is 12 years and for much of that time he has had a key role in player development, he is currently Director of Coaching. According to Google Sexton was drafted by North Melbourne in 1990 but never actually got to play senior footy. Irrespective of his coaching qualifications, and no doubt he has done all the theory, I am amazed that he is considered to have the personal experience to be a coach at senior AFL level. I can't think of any AFL coach in the modern era who has not played at senior level who has been a successful AFL coach, and yet St Kilda appointed him as Director of Coaching, overseeing the entire coching panel!
Furthermore, in the 12 years that Sexton has been a key figure involved in player development, St Kilda's record in developing new and emerging talent, including a bunch of early draft picks, has by any measure been lamentable. Apart from Gresham, I can't think of one other young recruit who has 'been developed" into a quality player within 3 years - unlike all of the top teams who achieve a high success rate with new recruits. Further evidence of this is the resurgence of North Melbourne in 2018 who were not considered to challenge for the top 8.
If Richo is going to survive this season and the next, the club needs to take a close hard look at making changes to the coaching panel, as did Essendon recently, and shoud look no further than the Diretor of Coaching to provide the required circuit breaker. For my money, I would go all out to recruit David King into that position forthwith - his anayisis of the game is second to none and woild be of enormous benefit to Richo.
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Re: Too many Chiefs
Alright, let's not cloud this discussion with arguments about David King's qualities, I don't really care who they get, but I'm quite convinced that the current "Director of Coaching and Player Development" is the one that should be dismissed, or as is the way in these sensitive times, "given the opportunity to resign", lest he feel a sense of humiliation...surely it must it must be time for him to spend more time with his family....Teflon wrote: ↑Sun 27 May 2018 12:38amYou had me.......then mentioned David King he’s an imbecile really just states the obvious NOSanctorum wrote: ↑Sat 26 May 2018 8:28pm Danny Sexton has been at the club since 2006 - that is 12 years and for much of that time he has had a key role in player development, he is currently Director of Coaching. According to Google Sexton was drafted by North Melbourne in 1990 but never actually got to play senior footy. Irrespective of his coaching qualifications, and no doubt he has done all the theory, I am amazed that he is considered to have the personal experience to be a coach at senior AFL level. I can't think of any AFL coach in the modern era who has not played at senior level who has been a successful AFL coach, and yet St Kilda appointed him as Director of Coaching, overseeing the entire coching panel!
Furthermore, in the 12 years that Sexton has been a key figure involved in player development, St Kilda's record in developing new and emerging talent, including a bunch of early draft picks, has by any measure been lamentable. Apart from Gresham, I can't think of one other young recruit who has 'been developed" into a quality player within 3 years - unlike all of the top teams who achieve a high success rate with new recruits. Further evidence of this is the resurgence of North Melbourne in 2018 who were not considered to challenge for the top 8.
If Richo is going to survive this season and the next, the club needs to take a close hard look at making changes to the coaching panel, as did Essendon recently, and shoud look no further than the Diretor of Coaching to provide the required circuit breaker. For my money, I would go all out to recruit David King into that position forthwith - his anayisis of the game is second to none and woild be of enormous benefit to Richo.
Twelve years at the one club is far too long for any coach, least of all at a club that has fallen in a heap in a year that the club assured supporters that the Saints would challenge for top 4! The trouble with being a coach at the Saints for 12 years straight is that he has outlasted 3 senior coaches and in the culture of AFL teams that means he wields a hell of a lot of power - he knows where all the skeletons are buried, and has become so entrenched in the club that no-one would dare to contradict him. Such is his influence that I imagine that apart from player development he is involved in all the key areas - recruiting, team selections, match day strategies across all areas of specialist coaches. Unless things change he is also likely to see off Richo as well.
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Re: Too many Chiefs
Fair point don't disagreeSanctorum wrote: ↑Sun 27 May 2018 9:18pmAlright, let's not cloud this discussion with arguments about David King's qualities, I don't really care who they get, but I'm quite convinced that the current "Director of Coaching and Player Development" is the one that should be dismissed, or as is the way in these sensitive times, "given the opportunity to resign", lest he feel a sense of humiliation...surely it must it must be time for him to spend more time with his family....Teflon wrote: ↑Sun 27 May 2018 12:38amYou had me.......then mentioned David King he’s an imbecile really just states the obvious NOSanctorum wrote: ↑Sat 26 May 2018 8:28pm Danny Sexton has been at the club since 2006 - that is 12 years and for much of that time he has had a key role in player development, he is currently Director of Coaching. According to Google Sexton was drafted by North Melbourne in 1990 but never actually got to play senior footy. Irrespective of his coaching qualifications, and no doubt he has done all the theory, I am amazed that he is considered to have the personal experience to be a coach at senior AFL level. I can't think of any AFL coach in the modern era who has not played at senior level who has been a successful AFL coach, and yet St Kilda appointed him as Director of Coaching, overseeing the entire coching panel!
Furthermore, in the 12 years that Sexton has been a key figure involved in player development, St Kilda's record in developing new and emerging talent, including a bunch of early draft picks, has by any measure been lamentable. Apart from Gresham, I can't think of one other young recruit who has 'been developed" into a quality player within 3 years - unlike all of the top teams who achieve a high success rate with new recruits. Further evidence of this is the resurgence of North Melbourne in 2018 who were not considered to challenge for the top 8.
If Richo is going to survive this season and the next, the club needs to take a close hard look at making changes to the coaching panel, as did Essendon recently, and shoud look no further than the Diretor of Coaching to provide the required circuit breaker. For my money, I would go all out to recruit David King into that position forthwith - his anayisis of the game is second to none and woild be of enormous benefit to Richo.
Twelve years at the one club is far too long for any coach, least of all at a club that has fallen in a heap in a year that the club assured supporters that the Saints would challenge for top 4! The trouble with being a coach at the Saints for 12 years straight is that he has outlasted 3 senior coaches and in the culture of AFL teams that means he wields a hell of a lot of power - he knows where all the skeletons are buried, and has become so entrenched in the club that no-one would dare to contradict him. Such is his influence that I imagine that apart from player development he is involved in all the key areas - recruiting, team selections, match day strategies across all areas of specialist coaches. Unless things change he is also likely to see off Richo as well.
12 years would indicate time to bring in fresh ideas
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Re: Too many Chiefs
Agree don't over rate this wank open your earsTeflon wrote: ↑Sun 27 May 2018 12:38amYou had me.......then mentioned David King he’s an imbecile really just states the obvious NOSanctorum wrote: ↑Sat 26 May 2018 8:28pm Danny Sexton has been at the club since 2006 - that is 12 years and for much of that time he has had a key role in player development, he is currently Director of Coaching. According to Google Sexton was drafted by North Melbourne in 1990 but never actually got to play senior footy. Irrespective of his coaching qualifications, and no doubt he has done all the theory, I am amazed that he is considered to have the personal experience to be a coach at senior AFL level. I can't think of any AFL coach in the modern era who has not played at senior level who has been a successful AFL coach, and yet St Kilda appointed him as Director of Coaching, overseeing the entire coching panel!
Furthermore, in the 12 years that Sexton has been a key figure involved in player development, St Kilda's record in developing new and emerging talent, including a bunch of early draft picks, has by any measure been lamentable. Apart from Gresham, I can't think of one other young recruit who has 'been developed" into a quality player within 3 years - unlike all of the top teams who achieve a high success rate with new recruits. Further evidence of this is the resurgence of North Melbourne in 2018 who were not considered to challenge for the top 8.
If Richo is going to survive this season and the next, the club needs to take a close hard look at making changes to the coaching panel, as did Essendon recently, and shoud look no further than the Diretor of Coaching to provide the required circuit breaker. For my money, I would go all out to recruit David King into that position forthwith - his anayisis of the game is second to none and woild be of enormous benefit to Richo.
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Re: Too many Chiefs
Great post St Kev, I didnt see a bootstudder on that list though...( been a while since I played the game). It is bulls*** that is why I cancelled my membership, just a total waste of money on people who dont impact on the clubs performance and just hide in the system. With the saints playing stocks and ladder position at a 5 year low , a cleanout should begin right now across the board ( pardon the pun)