I'm pissed off and embarrassed at what my club is dishing up
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I'm pissed off and embarrassed at what my club is dishing up
Richo and coaches have to start taking responsibility, they cant control how players kick for goal and their field kicking during the match but they can control how we train, game plan and who they pick.
We can all see a one paced midfield just doesn't work, Dunstan, Steele, Ross and Armo (Koby), 2 of these just cant play and we need to mix it up.
Geary, Newnes, Gilbert, Savage, really bad decision makers and kicks, some weeks ok, some weeks just terrible but playing all of them all the time gives the opposition plenty of goals and gives us limited chance of winning.
Game style is boring, no fast ball movement. Game tactics are confusing, why pick Marshall over Battle if he is not played as a second ruck? Battle is a true forward and when he gets the ball should be able to slot a goal before the curse gets him. Marshall will be a great FWD/Ruck if we develop him.
Solutions to try and develop a midfield - Just play Dunstan and Ross, mix in Acres and Gresham, add a Gilbert or Geary as the stopper, add some other speed to help Steven (not sure who?) Newnes and Gilbert or Savage cant play, we must replace them with players that can kick. White should be playing, try and play Billings in Savages position, he was an elite junior kick we just need to help him develop. Sinclair needs to be in the team. Very frustrating listening to Richo every week, he swaps and changes, one week its contested footy but our skills are good, next week our kicking is the only problem, next week all players are out of form, everyone at the club talks with this narrative now its goal kicking. The improvement must come with not accepting bad field kicking, not accepting 4 tackles in a season, not accepting missing easy goals, not accepting your leaders and experienced players doing most of these things. Well that's my rant, I'm pissed off and embarrassed at what my club is dishing up. If the club lifts its acceptance standards improvement will come quickly. Get the behaviours required to be great AFL Players locked in and them work on them. Watch the good clubs, they are selfless from top down. We have the rest of the season plus pre season to get things right for next year, its a great opportunity if we take it.
We can all see a one paced midfield just doesn't work, Dunstan, Steele, Ross and Armo (Koby), 2 of these just cant play and we need to mix it up.
Geary, Newnes, Gilbert, Savage, really bad decision makers and kicks, some weeks ok, some weeks just terrible but playing all of them all the time gives the opposition plenty of goals and gives us limited chance of winning.
Game style is boring, no fast ball movement. Game tactics are confusing, why pick Marshall over Battle if he is not played as a second ruck? Battle is a true forward and when he gets the ball should be able to slot a goal before the curse gets him. Marshall will be a great FWD/Ruck if we develop him.
Solutions to try and develop a midfield - Just play Dunstan and Ross, mix in Acres and Gresham, add a Gilbert or Geary as the stopper, add some other speed to help Steven (not sure who?) Newnes and Gilbert or Savage cant play, we must replace them with players that can kick. White should be playing, try and play Billings in Savages position, he was an elite junior kick we just need to help him develop. Sinclair needs to be in the team. Very frustrating listening to Richo every week, he swaps and changes, one week its contested footy but our skills are good, next week our kicking is the only problem, next week all players are out of form, everyone at the club talks with this narrative now its goal kicking. The improvement must come with not accepting bad field kicking, not accepting 4 tackles in a season, not accepting missing easy goals, not accepting your leaders and experienced players doing most of these things. Well that's my rant, I'm pissed off and embarrassed at what my club is dishing up. If the club lifts its acceptance standards improvement will come quickly. Get the behaviours required to be great AFL Players locked in and them work on them. Watch the good clubs, they are selfless from top down. We have the rest of the season plus pre season to get things right for next year, its a great opportunity if we take it.
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Re: I'm pissed off and embarrassed at what my club is dishin
Great post and well articulated.
I agree Richo appears to pick out an obvious flaw with we need to fix this and all will be well, when he is just sticking his finger in the dyke.
I agree Richo appears to pick out an obvious flaw with we need to fix this and all will be well, when he is just sticking his finger in the dyke.
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There has to be a full review externally end of season not the “ boys club” intwrnal review.
Been patting each other on the back for awhile now.
There is talent in this group I know there is.
Been patting each other on the back for awhile now.
There is talent in this group I know there is.
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Some good calls in there, particularly re our one-dimensional midfield. Acres at the clearances would be a start. Gresham, too.
The forward line and its lack of structure is of equal concern. We need Bruce back asap, or bite the bullet and move Carlisle forward.
Richo needs to show some daring and try things or he’s finished.
Sadly I don’t expect him to. I expect him to dish up more of the same tired formula that is a proven failure.
The forward line and its lack of structure is of equal concern. We need Bruce back asap, or bite the bullet and move Carlisle forward.
Richo needs to show some daring and try things or he’s finished.
Sadly I don’t expect him to. I expect him to dish up more of the same tired formula that is a proven failure.
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Not end of season.Vazelos wrote:There has to be a full review externally end of season not the “ boys club” intwrnal review.
Been patting each other on the back for awhile now.
There is talent in this group I know there is.
Now...
"Now the ball is loose, it gives St. Kilda a rough chance. Black. Good handpass. Voss. Schwarze now, the defender, can run and from a long way".....
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I thought we had too many selfish goal hungry players who never lower their eyes within goal kicking distance.
All year they have been ignoring players who are on their own screaming for the ball and forward of the guy with the ball.
Gesham, Billings,Newnes, Steven and Membrey are the worst offenders but there are others.
Then I heard the coach saying to Membrey that if he is range, just take the shot.
That has proven a winner hasn't it?
All year they have been ignoring players who are on their own screaming for the ball and forward of the guy with the ball.
Gesham, Billings,Newnes, Steven and Membrey are the worst offenders but there are others.
Then I heard the coach saying to Membrey that if he is range, just take the shot.
That has proven a winner hasn't it?
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I’m really contemplating my options re: signing up again. After eighteen years continuous membership.
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Re: I'm pissed off and embarrassed at what my club is dishin
Previously I was against Carlisle up forward, but I think it has to happen. While he’s our best defender by a mile, we’re still getting thumped regardless.
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+1SydneySainter wrote:Previously I was against Carlisle up forward, but I think it has to happen. While he’s our best defender by a mile, we’re still getting thumped regardless.
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We are all really angry at the club, and with good reason. This is absolutely unacceptable after all we've endured as saints supporters.
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You are definitely not alone there tjs - membership could fall off a cliff if they don’t turn things around this season.thejiggingsaint wrote:I’m really contemplating my options re: signing up again. After eighteen years continuous membership.
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Surely someone has hacked jiggster’s account!thejiggingsaint wrote:I’m really contemplating my options re: signing up again. After eighteen years continuous membership.
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NOPE! Seriously thinking about just blindly shelling out cash and being schitt on from a great height as a rewardwhiskers3614 wrote:Surely someone has hacked jiggster’s account!thejiggingsaint wrote:I’m really contemplating my options re: signing up again. After eighteen years continuous membership.
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Seriously jiggster.thejiggingsaint wrote:NOPE! Seriously thinking about just blindly shelling out cash and being schitt on from a great height as a rewardwhiskers3614 wrote:Surely someone has hacked jiggster’s account!thejiggingsaint wrote:I’m really contemplating my options re: signing up again. After eighteen years continuous membership.
Next year save yourself $1000 and just book a few sessions with a BDSM expert and let him/her s*** on you.
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The jig is up.fugazi wrote:Wow...sounds like even the Jiggster is being broken by the Saints.
As ex-president Peter Summers said:
“If we are going to be a contender, we may as well plan to win the bloody thing.”
St Kilda - At least we have a Crest!
“If we are going to be a contender, we may as well plan to win the bloody thing.”
St Kilda - At least we have a Crest!
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Not “ broken “ Colleague, more a case of being weary of shelling out good money for almost twenty years, and getting little to show for it other than heartache. There again, it is only Sunday..... Tuesday will see me re- thinking about my re- thinking!fugazi wrote:Wow...sounds like even the Jiggster is being broken by the Saints.
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I think we are all seriously frustrated at what is being dished up.
I've been to over 800 StKilda games and only left early four times - twice at 3/4 time to attend weddings, once when one of my kids was feeling unwell, and the 2010 GF replay when I simply couldn't stomach the pain of the enormity of the chance that had been wasted.
But last week at the Melbourne game I seriously wondered why I should bother staying till the end as it was just EXCRUCIATING to watch and there seemed to be no way forward.
Nothing had changed from the series of other insipid performances this year except this was even more insipid.
The skills were woeful, the gameplan unevident, ball movement slow, wrong options taken, players that consistently let us down still getting a game, other players underperforming.
The side that we had high hopes to make finals this year is basically now looking like wooden spooners.
Looks like the rebuild is a failure, we have wasted the last 5 years, and at least 5 years away from being a contender.
Seriously doubting the capacity of our recruiting and coaching staff.
All valid reasons to be pissed off and depressed.
Yes, I did stay till the end, and yes I will be at the Coll game - I guess because you just hope something might happen.
But like many others I am seriously disillusioned.
I've been to over 800 StKilda games and only left early four times - twice at 3/4 time to attend weddings, once when one of my kids was feeling unwell, and the 2010 GF replay when I simply couldn't stomach the pain of the enormity of the chance that had been wasted.
But last week at the Melbourne game I seriously wondered why I should bother staying till the end as it was just EXCRUCIATING to watch and there seemed to be no way forward.
Nothing had changed from the series of other insipid performances this year except this was even more insipid.
The skills were woeful, the gameplan unevident, ball movement slow, wrong options taken, players that consistently let us down still getting a game, other players underperforming.
The side that we had high hopes to make finals this year is basically now looking like wooden spooners.
Looks like the rebuild is a failure, we have wasted the last 5 years, and at least 5 years away from being a contender.
Seriously doubting the capacity of our recruiting and coaching staff.
All valid reasons to be pissed off and depressed.
Yes, I did stay till the end, and yes I will be at the Coll game - I guess because you just hope something might happen.
But like many others I am seriously disillusioned.
The rest of Australia can wander mask-free, socialise, eat out, no curfews, no zoning, no police rings of steel, no illogical inconsistent rules.
They can even WATCH LIVE FOOTY!
They can even WATCH LIVE FOOTY!
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Double post
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The rest of Australia can wander mask-free, socialise, eat out, no curfews, no zoning, no police rings of steel, no illogical inconsistent rules.
They can even WATCH LIVE FOOTY!
They can even WATCH LIVE FOOTY!
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Triple post !!!
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The rest of Australia can wander mask-free, socialise, eat out, no curfews, no zoning, no police rings of steel, no illogical inconsistent rules.
They can even WATCH LIVE FOOTY!
They can even WATCH LIVE FOOTY!
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Somehow, I managed a quadruple post!
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The rest of Australia can wander mask-free, socialise, eat out, no curfews, no zoning, no police rings of steel, no illogical inconsistent rules.
They can even WATCH LIVE FOOTY!
They can even WATCH LIVE FOOTY!
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Congratulations, I believe that is a Saintsational first.Enrico_Misso wrote:Somehow, I managed a quadruple post!
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St Kilda would have failed to get anything through the middle of those four posts.Enrico_Misso wrote:Somehow, I managed a quadruple post!
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Beno88 wrote:St Kilda would have failed to get anything through the middle of those four posts.Enrico_Misso wrote:Somehow, I managed a quadruple post!
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