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Selection
The big question the needs to ask it self is, want does it to get out of this season!!
They need to be honest and have honest conversation. We are not going to win the premiership. And it looks unlikely that we will make the finals. Therefore we need to think about blooding players and building cohesiveness among the playing group who will take us forward.
Here's a few points they should consder:
It was evident on the weekend that our skills must improve! Focus on this at training, & where to kick it & where to run.
I’d even think about throwing Billings onto a BF, get the ball into his hands. Let see him use those foot skills everyone talks about away from goal. Build his confidence then rest/send him forward.
Rotate a few younger players into the team, guarantee them of 3 or 4 games in a row.
Make some hard calls eg leave out Geary our Captain, Brown, Gilbert (maybe not all as we need some experience, but focus on development and skills)
Despite Brown playing a good defensive game, he demonstrated why he needs to go on the weekend. There were several opportunities for him to mark the ball, however decided to use the double fisted punch whilst under limited pressure. On at least 2 occasions this resulted in a goal.
Brandon White, Logan Austin, Shane Savage
Jimmy Webster, Jake Carlisle, Jack Billings
Jack Sinclair, Blake Acres, Nick Coffield,
Josh Battle, Tim Membrey, Maverick Weller
Jade Gresham, Paddy McCartin, Ben Long
Tom Hickey, Sebastian Ross, Jack Steven
I/C: Luke Dunstan, Jack Steele, Jack Newnes
and one of Hunter Clark, Ed Phillips, Rowan Marshall or Rice
They need to be honest and have honest conversation. We are not going to win the premiership. And it looks unlikely that we will make the finals. Therefore we need to think about blooding players and building cohesiveness among the playing group who will take us forward.
Here's a few points they should consder:
It was evident on the weekend that our skills must improve! Focus on this at training, & where to kick it & where to run.
I’d even think about throwing Billings onto a BF, get the ball into his hands. Let see him use those foot skills everyone talks about away from goal. Build his confidence then rest/send him forward.
Rotate a few younger players into the team, guarantee them of 3 or 4 games in a row.
Make some hard calls eg leave out Geary our Captain, Brown, Gilbert (maybe not all as we need some experience, but focus on development and skills)
Despite Brown playing a good defensive game, he demonstrated why he needs to go on the weekend. There were several opportunities for him to mark the ball, however decided to use the double fisted punch whilst under limited pressure. On at least 2 occasions this resulted in a goal.
Brandon White, Logan Austin, Shane Savage
Jimmy Webster, Jake Carlisle, Jack Billings
Jack Sinclair, Blake Acres, Nick Coffield,
Josh Battle, Tim Membrey, Maverick Weller
Jade Gresham, Paddy McCartin, Ben Long
Tom Hickey, Sebastian Ross, Jack Steven
I/C: Luke Dunstan, Jack Steele, Jack Newnes
and one of Hunter Clark, Ed Phillips, Rowan Marshall or Rice
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Re: Selection
Sounds good. Particularly if posters on this forum don't go into meltdown after Melbourne wins by about 20 goals,
And I think there is more chance of one of us winning Tattslotto next week than that happening!
And I think there is more chance of one of us winning Tattslotto next week than that happening!
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Re: Selection
Like the look of that team a lot! And the general sentiment of the postfootynut wrote:The big question the needs to ask it self is, want does it to get out of this season!!
They need to be honest and have honest conversation. We are not going to win the premiership. And it looks unlikely that we will make the finals. Therefore we need to think about blooding players and building cohesiveness among the playing group who will take us forward.
Here's a few points they should consder:
It was evident on the weekend that our skills must improve! Focus on this at training, & where to kick it & where to run.
I’d even think about throwing Billings onto a BF, get the ball into his hands. Let see him use those foot skills everyone talks about away from goal. Build his confidence then rest/send him forward.
Rotate a few younger players into the team, guarantee them of 3 or 4 games in a row.
Make some hard calls eg leave out Geary our Captain, Brown, Gilbert (maybe not all as we need some experience, but focus on development and skills)
Despite Brown playing a good defensive game, he demonstrated why he needs to go on the weekend. There were several opportunities for him to mark the ball, however decided to use the double fisted punch whilst under limited pressure. On at least 2 occasions this resulted in a goal.
Brandon White, Logan Austin, Shane Savage
Jimmy Webster, Jake Carlisle, Jack Billings
Jack Sinclair, Blake Acres, Nick Coffield,
Josh Battle, Tim Membrey, Maverick Weller
Jade Gresham, Paddy McCartin, Ben Long
Tom Hickey, Sebastian Ross, Jack Steven
I/C: Luke Dunstan, Jack Steele, Jack Newnes
and one of Hunter Clark, Ed Phillips, Rowan Marshall or Rice
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Re: Selection
What was the line up for the third quarter of the JLT pre season game. Melbourne couldn't handle that one.
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Re: Selection
One change Weller out and Clark inSaint wagga wrote:Like the look of that team a lot! And the general sentiment of the postfootynut wrote:The big question the needs to ask it self is, want does it to get out of this season!!
They need to be honest and have honest conversation. We are not going to win the premiership. And it looks unlikely that we will make the finals. Therefore we need to think about blooding players and building cohesiveness among the playing group who will take us forward.
Here's a few points they should consder:
It was evident on the weekend that our skills must improve! Focus on this at training, & where to kick it & where to run.
I’d even think about throwing Billings onto a BF, get the ball into his hands. Let see him use those foot skills everyone talks about away from goal. Build his confidence then rest/send him forward.
Rotate a few younger players into the team, guarantee them of 3 or 4 games in a row.
Make some hard calls eg leave out Geary our Captain, Brown, Gilbert (maybe not all as we need some experience, but focus on development and skills)
Despite Brown playing a good defensive game, he demonstrated why he needs to go on the weekend. There were several opportunities for him to mark the ball, however decided to use the double fisted punch whilst under limited pressure. On at least 2 occasions this resulted in a goal.
Brandon White, Logan Austin, Shane Savage
Jimmy Webster, Jake Carlisle, Jack Billings
Jack Sinclair, Blake Acres, Nick Coffield,
Josh Battle, Tim Membrey, Maverick Weller
Jade Gresham, Paddy McCartin, Ben Long
Tom Hickey, Sebastian Ross, Jack Steven
I/C: Luke Dunstan, Jack Steele, Jack Newnes
and one of Hunter Clark, Ed Phillips, Rowan Marshall or Rice
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Re: Selection
Selection?
People want Gresh and Billings out, saying they aren't doing enough. Ok then, stick them in the middle from the get go. Then they won't have any excuses for not doing enough.
People want Gresh and Billings out, saying they aren't doing enough. Ok then, stick them in the middle from the get go. Then they won't have any excuses for not doing enough.
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Re: Selection
Changes? Straight swap I reckon.
Out: Con G (managed).
In: Billy Longer.
That way, Saintsational will still get to play one man short.
Out: Con G (managed).
In: Billy Longer.
That way, Saintsational will still get to play one man short.
It's Dave, man. Will you open up? I got the stuff with me! -------Who?
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Re: Selection
they don't have any excuses now. why make it worse?Dave McNamara wrote:Selection?
People want Gresh and Billings out, saying they aren't doing enough. Ok then, stick them in the middle from the get go. Then they won't have any excuses for not doing enough.
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Funny f*** Dave, just what we need, bit of humour, also funny how no-one has really commented how BigBoy smashed Tom!!!!!Dave McNamara wrote:Changes? Straight swap I reckon.
Out: Con G (managed).
In: Billy Longer.
That way, Saintsational will still get to play one man short.
Just out of interest, when was the last time St.Kilda won a game with Tom playing 1st Ruck?????
Tom gets a bit of footy around the ground sure, but as he showed on Saturday night, has no defensive side to his game and provides zero physical presence!!!!!
Bill provides defensive side and physical presence, but not enough attacking side and ball getting ability!!!!!
Perhaps we could interbreed (racing terms) the two and come up with a decent ruck!!!!!
'Cause StoneCold Said So'!!!!!
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Agree LF, at 27 Hickey will never develop the physicality or body mass required to be a force at AFL level.stonecold wrote:Funny f*** Dave, just what we need, bit of humour, also funny how no-one has really commented how BigBoy smashed Tom!!!!!Dave McNamara wrote:Changes? Straight swap I reckon.
Out: Con G (managed).
In: Billy Longer.
That way, Saintsational will still get to play one man short.
Just out of interest, when was the last time St.Kilda won a game with Tom playing 1st Ruck?????
Tom gets a bit of footy around the ground sure, but as he showed on Saturday night, has no defensive side to his game and provides zero physical presence!!!!!
Bill provides defensive side and physical presence, but not enough attacking side and ball getting ability!!!!!
Perhaps we could interbreed (racing terms) the two and come up with a decent ruck!!!!!
Billy will never have the appropriate skills to be an AFL player other than at a club like GWS where their mids will cover his skill inadequacy.
Both cost plenty and are a bust in my opinion and we should trade if anyone would take them.
Much more long term upside in Marshall and we need a back up for him.
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Yes Jaffa, at this point, both are the answer, however neither is!!!!!
Marshall needs time and play second fiddle!!!!!
Marshall needs time and play second fiddle!!!!!
'Cause StoneCold Said So'!!!!!
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Re: Selection
I still think Marshall should be developed as a key forward who can chop out in the ruck for 30% game time.stonecold wrote:Marshall needs time and play second fiddle!!!!!
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Knowing our luck we would end up with a ruckman who....stonecold wrote:Funny f*** Dave, just what we need, bit of humour, also funny how no-one has really commented how BigBoy smashed Tom!!!!!Dave McNamara wrote:Changes? Straight swap I reckon.
Out: Con G (managed).
In: Billy Longer.
That way, Saintsational will still get to play one man short.
Just out of interest, when was the last time St.Kilda won a game with Tom playing 1st Ruck?????
Tom gets a bit of footy around the ground sure, but as he showed on Saturday night, has no defensive side to his game and provides zero physical presence!!!!!
Bill provides defensive side and physical presence, but not enough attacking side and ball getting ability!!!!!
Perhaps we could interbreed (racing terms) the two and come up with a decent ruck!!!!!
Has no defensive side
No physical impact
No attacking side
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No ball getting ability.
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Yes, I agree, he is not a genuine ruck at this point!!!!!St Chris wrote:I still think Marshall should be developed as a key forward who can chop out in the ruck for 30% game time.stonecold wrote:Marshall needs time and play second fiddle!!!!!
'Cause StoneCold Said So'!!!!!
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Re: Selection
So of the 2 Hickey offers more than Billy. Play him & Marshall together which gives us a second marking target up forward with Paddy. Use Membrey as the mobile target, as that's his strength, not the big park mark.
I agree McEvoy beat Hickey overall but Hickey contributed around the ground, and Billy rarely does.
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I agree McEvoy beat Hickey overall but Hickey contributed around the ground, and Billy rarely does.
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Re: Selection
Lewis Pierce has to be worth a go. Just a couple of games. His form at Frankston has been solid. He and Marshall are our best hopes.
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As previously stated, play the most inform ruck at the time, along with Marshall as second string!!!!!St. Paul wrote:Lewis Pierce has to be worth a go. Just a couple of games. His form at Frankston has been solid. He and Marshall are our best hopes.
Put all players on notice and whomever is showing the best form plays!!!!!
Will be interesting to see if they stick with Hickledik or Longer who did well against Gawn last year!!!!!
'Cause StoneCold Said So'!!!!!
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