Good Players now Duds
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Re: Good Players now Duds
A few of the above will probably start requesting trades once their contracts are up anyway.
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Re: Good Players now Duds
This. Don't give up on them, its not their fault.SydneySainter wrote:A few of the above will probably start requesting trades once their contracts are up anyway.
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Think you missed the sarcasm. Anyways, they will all be itching for an out. I shudder to think who would be itching for an inbassoon wrote:No, we need to give up on them. Yes, it’s not their fault, but the damage has been done.
We want to win a Premiership we need to be brutal. Don’t care that you could kick goals on the run from 50 out in 2014. Most of the time now you can’t kick straight from 30 metres out five times out of six. Therefore find somewhere else to play. Sorry, enough of this rubbish.
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Re: Good Players now Duds
I think they can all play, our system over the last year and a bit seems to have destroyed them. I fear the same will happen to Long and others who are showing a bit at the moment.
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You not offended by this thread title!!!!!The_Dud wrote:I think they can all play, our system over the last year and a bit seems to have destroyed them. I fear the same will happen to Long and others who are showing a bit at the moment.
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What's his despicable treatment? He struggled to get a kick and has been sent back to the reserves?elizabethr wrote:Armo deserves a trade away from his despicable treatment.
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Players now around the 40 - 80 match point shouldn't be going backwards. Have they not been challenged enough? Is it their personalities or the coaching group? It's really not good enough. They'll all find themselves out of the AFL system if the penny doesn't drop pretty quickly.
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Re: Good Players now Duds
...bassoon wrote:And this the issue that needs to be addressed.
In no particular order,
Membrey
Bruce
Billings
Sinclair
Gresham
Lonie.
Now we know where they’re at now. But remember when they all played they’re first few games.
These were the players that webuilt our future on, and now there is no future.
It is so critical that young players are taught correctly when they come down to a club.
Once you’ve played 50 plus games, you should be established AFL Players.
For whatever reason, none of the above are consistently up to AFL Standard.
I have given up on the above,even though it’s probably not their fault.
It’s time for the Club to stand up and take action. A review is needed on the whole Football Department. Wecan talk about high draft picks, etc. etc none of it is worth a toss if the game plan, goal kicking, basic skills, and fitness levels are not up to standard.
FFS When I see players miss targets by foot and hand (somtimes as close as a few metres away), missinshots from a couple of metres away,and the worst, where a couple of our players backed away from Gunston in the last so he’s ableto havea snap from 50 metres out with no pressure, it reminds me of the 80s, when our only wins came on the Moorabbin Mud Heap.
What is clear, if we don’t put the Coaching, and Development people under severe scrutiny, players like White, Coffield, Clarke, Marshalll and Battle will go the same way as the above.
Sevenyears without playing Finals - if nothing changes, it could be another ten.
Not one of those players are mids/ruck and this is where we're being monstered..unfortunately, we have a team that suffers fear of failure and don't want the ball at all costs.
Our mids just don't create or make things happen
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Many problems at present but I think once the current coaching staff goes the players will lift regardless of who it is. But I can't believe how bad we are at present and how we are going backwards. I don't blame the mids as we only have one outside mid at which is not enough and at present and he isn't tagged anymore as, well lets be honest, why bother, they will win regardless.
Super draft coming so its a good year to suck. Remember we got Roo and BJ close to each other so we have Coffield and Clark so one more and we might start getting good again in 2019. It's all I have people
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Re: Good Players now Duds
And what AFL side would he get a game at?elizabethr wrote:Armo deserves a trade away from his despicable treatment.
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Sunswhiskers3614 wrote:And what AFL side would he get a game at?elizabethr wrote:Armo deserves a trade away from his despicable treatment.
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Re: Good Players now Duds
I have had a look at our list and 15 players were sub 25 draft picks where the good AFL players come from,
You can have a couple of misses in this draft range but most should be good or better AFL players.
If these players were at Geelong, Hawthorn, Richmond , Collingwood or the more powerful interstate teams they would be very good performers by now,
Look how McEvoy, Lynch and Stanley have improved so I don’t think we are lacking talent but haven’t developed them well.
If that is true then having early picks would not help if the new players finish up the same way.
You can have a couple of misses in this draft range but most should be good or better AFL players.
If these players were at Geelong, Hawthorn, Richmond , Collingwood or the more powerful interstate teams they would be very good performers by now,
Look how McEvoy, Lynch and Stanley have improved so I don’t think we are lacking talent but haven’t developed them well.
If that is true then having early picks would not help if the new players finish up the same way.
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Yes a super draft coming up. So what does that genius Elshaug do? Trades away our second and third round picks. You can't make this shyte up.DJ Higgins wrote:Many problems at present but I think once the current coaching staff goes the players will lift regardless of who it is. But I can't believe how bad we are at present and how we are going backwards. I don't blame the mids as we only have one outside mid at which is not enough and at present and he isn't tagged anymore as, well lets be honest, why bother, they will win regardless.
Super draft coming so its a good year to suck. Remember we got Roo and BJ close to each other so we have Coffield and Clark so one more and we might start getting good again in 2019. It's all I have people
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