Poll - Who do you want at pick 7 & 8? Pick 2 players.
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Re: Poll - Who do you want at pick 7 & 8? Pick 2 players.
I'd like to see us pick up Higgins. Then the best of the sliders (Dow, Brayshaw, Cerra etc). Higgins looks very talented for mine - he will be like Gresham, maybe better. To go with him, grab another midfielder who will develop into a gun.
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SMS wrote:Murphys not even on poll and constable is two votes?? Boy o boy the melts
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Re: Poll - Who do you want at pick 7 & 8? Pick 2 players.
The pelican's top 20 in order.
1. Luke Davies-Uniacke
2. Paddy Dow
3. Cameron Rayner
4. Jaidyn Stephenson
5. Adam Cerra
6. Aaron Naughton
7. Andrew Brayshaw
8. Aiden Bonar
9. Nick Coffield
10. Darcy Fogarty
11. Jarrod Brander
12. Hunter Clark
13. Oscar Allen
14. Nathan Murphy
15. Carlie constable
16. Jack Higgins
17. Sam Hayes
18. Lochie O'Brien
19. Sam Tayler
20. Noah Balta.
So from that , its safe to say that Brayshaw and Bonar may very well get drafted by someone other than the saints and that Constable and Murphy are not top 10 picks. Well at least in some peoples mind.
1. Luke Davies-Uniacke
2. Paddy Dow
3. Cameron Rayner
4. Jaidyn Stephenson
5. Adam Cerra
6. Aaron Naughton
7. Andrew Brayshaw
8. Aiden Bonar
9. Nick Coffield
10. Darcy Fogarty
11. Jarrod Brander
12. Hunter Clark
13. Oscar Allen
14. Nathan Murphy
15. Carlie constable
16. Jack Higgins
17. Sam Hayes
18. Lochie O'Brien
19. Sam Tayler
20. Noah Balta.
So from that , its safe to say that Brayshaw and Bonar may very well get drafted by someone other than the saints and that Constable and Murphy are not top 10 picks. Well at least in some peoples mind.
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Re: Poll - Who do you want at pick 7 & 8? Pick 2 players.
Murphy is the potential bolter. An elite cricketer, al a Sinclair, who came back to footy just this year. Wasn't even in the discussion early this year. Now touted as a top 15 pick. His dad, Sean, played for our U/19's back in the day.
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Re: Poll - Who do you want at pick 7 & 8? Pick 2 players.
spiral3 wrote:interesting thanks Saynta, however, missing #7saynta wrote:The pelican's top 20 in order.
Oops, don't know what happened there. Brayshaw was 7th with Naughton at 6.
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Re: Poll - Who do you want at pick 7 & 8? Pick 2 players.
From where I sit I would have Coffield at pick 1.
He just looks so clean, quick, skilful and athletic and such a good size.
I'm struggling to see past him.
I cant see anything good about Constable. No doubt Trout's wife knows his uncle and says they are a good family and he went over for a roast or something or other but sheesh...
He just looks so clean, quick, skilful and athletic and such a good size.
I'm struggling to see past him.
I cant see anything good about Constable. No doubt Trout's wife knows his uncle and says they are a good family and he went over for a roast or something or other but sheesh...
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Fine but we got Sinclair as a Rookie AND he had a year of VFL under his belt.Drake Huggins wrote:Murphy is the potential bolter. An elite cricketer, al a Sinclair, who came back to footy just this year. Wasn't even in the discussion early this year. Now touted as a top 15 pick. His dad, Sean, played for our U/19's back in the day.
Murphy has some potential but that is all. Totally unproven. A project player. I see him as a pick around 20-30.
Anything higher than that would be lunacy.
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Where have you seen him play?Con Gorozidis wrote:Fine but we got Sinclair as a Rookie AND he had a year of VFL under his belt.Drake Huggins wrote:Murphy is the potential bolter. An elite cricketer, al a Sinclair, who came back to footy just this year. Wasn't even in the discussion early this year. Now touted as a top 15 pick. His dad, Sean, played for our U/19's back in the day.
Murphy has some potential but that is all. Totally unproven. A project player. I see him as a pick around 20-30.
Anything higher than that would be lunacy.
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Re: Poll - Who do you want at pick 7 & 8? Pick 2 players.
After a quick review of available info on draftees and our teams needs, I say dear recruiters Adam Cerra and Jaidyn Stephenson please.
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No need.magnifisaint wrote:Where have you seen him play?Con Gorozidis wrote:Fine but we got Sinclair as a Rookie AND he had a year of VFL under his belt.Drake Huggins wrote:Murphy is the potential bolter. An elite cricketer, al a Sinclair, who came back to footy just this year. Wasn't even in the discussion early this year. Now touted as a top 15 pick. His dad, Sean, played for our U/19's back in the day.
Murphy has some potential but that is all. Totally unproven. A project player. I see him as a pick around 20-30.
Anything higher than that would be lunacy.
I just like to go around to kids houses who live within a 10 minute drive and have a good family meal. Great tight knit family. Real character. Terrific salad dressing. f*** me but the steak was cooked just how I like it - well bloody done. Plenty of options with the sauce on the table too. Which is how it should be.
His uncle was a gun player for Hampton Rovers. Could have played for the Saints but did his knee early. Real sporting family. The sister is in the state junior netball side. The mum is a real solid type. Just a bloody delight to be honest.
I was kind of hoping they might ask me to move in for a few weeks. s*** they had plenty of space and I was happy to put a blow up mattress in the garage if need be....
Delighted to have a kid of this calibre in the club.
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Re: Poll - Who do you want at pick 7 & 8? Pick 2 players.
Jack played three games for Port Melbourne in the VFL in 2014 under the league’s 23rd player rule and was an Oakleigh Chargers player in 2014. Came on later in his first 2 games and started on the ground in his third game.Con Gorozidis wrote:
Fine but we got Sinclair as a Rookie AND he had a year of VFL under his belt.
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Great experience for the then young Jack, but not sure that equates to "a year under his belt as a VFL player".
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Re: Poll - Who do you want at pick 7 & 8? Pick 2 players.
I doubt we'll be taking Murphy at 7 or 8. He'll be gone by pick 34. The thing about Murphy is, like Sinclair, there is huge room for development. A bit of a risk, but one that may be worth taking after the top ten. The pelican on SEN remarked that the top ten this year was very good, but that you could throw a blanket over the next 25. Augurs well for someone decent to slip to our third pick.
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Re: Poll - Who do you want at pick 7 & 8? Pick 2 players.
reductio ad ridiculum (appeal to ridicule).Con Gorozidis wrote:No need.magnifisaint wrote:Where have you seen him play?Con Gorozidis wrote:Fine but we got Sinclair as a Rookie AND he had a year of VFL under his belt.Drake Huggins wrote:Murphy is the potential bolter. An elite cricketer, al a Sinclair, who came back to footy just this year. Wasn't even in the discussion early this year. Now touted as a top 15 pick. His dad, Sean, played for our U/19's back in the day.
Murphy has some potential but that is all. Totally unproven. A project player. I see him as a pick around 20-30.
Anything higher than that would be lunacy.
I just like to go around to kids houses who live within a 10 minute drive and have a good family meal. Great tight knit family. Real character. Terrific salad dressing. f*** me but the steak was cooked just how I like it - well bloody done. Plenty of options with the sauce on the table too. Which is how it should be.
His uncle was a gun player for Hampton Rovers. Could have played for the Saints but did his knee early. Real sporting family. The sister is in the state junior netball side. The mum is a real solid type. Just a bloody delight to be honest.
I was kind of hoping they might ask me to move in for a few weeks. s*** they had plenty of space and I was happy to put a blow up mattress in the garage if need be....
Delighted to have a kid of this calibre in the club.
Getting very boring Con.
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I concur with Pav. Most of us on here arent a bunch of idiots Con. The fact that you have about as much of an idea about these guys as most of us (nil), but pretend to know so much by watching some youtube clips and read some draft reports doesn't reflect well on you. Probably best if you kept it to quoting.SaintPav wrote:reductio ad ridiculum (appeal to ridicule).Con Gorozidis wrote:No need.magnifisaint wrote:Where have you seen him play?Con Gorozidis wrote:Fine but we got Sinclair as a Rookie AND he had a year of VFL under his belt.Drake Huggins wrote:Murphy is the potential bolter. An elite cricketer, al a Sinclair, who came back to footy just this year. Wasn't even in the discussion early this year. Now touted as a top 15 pick. His dad, Sean, played for our U/19's back in the day.
Murphy has some potential but that is all. Totally unproven. A project player. I see him as a pick around 20-30.
Anything higher than that would be lunacy.
I just like to go around to kids houses who live within a 10 minute drive and have a good family meal. Great tight knit family. Real character. Terrific salad dressing. f*** me but the steak was cooked just how I like it - well bloody done. Plenty of options with the sauce on the table too. Which is how it should be.
His uncle was a gun player for Hampton Rovers. Could have played for the Saints but did his knee early. Real sporting family. The sister is in the state junior netball side. The mum is a real solid type. Just a bloody delight to be honest.
I was kind of hoping they might ask me to move in for a few weeks. s*** they had plenty of space and I was happy to put a blow up mattress in the garage if need be....
Delighted to have a kid of this calibre in the club.
Getting very boring Con.
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The rare & dizzy heights of having 2 top 10 picks
I think the enthusiasm, hope & intrigue surrounding picks 7 & 8 has many of us scouring through the list of players from roughly 5 to 10 and mounting a case for each one.
On one level I'm enjoying the position our club is finding itself in, it's been a decade & a half since we experienced this rare privilage of 2 picks in the top 10 of a National Draft.
On another level I am really hoping that our recruiting team has been consistently applying their studying skills in regard to the pros & cons of each of these player that will be drafted later this month.
Who knows we may not get picks like these for another decade.
Of coarse that suggests that the next decade would have us camped in the top half of the ladder.
. . . & we need some luck with the two players we nominate for the red, white & black.
Here's hoping.![Smile :)](./images/smilies/icon_smile.gif)
On one level I'm enjoying the position our club is finding itself in, it's been a decade & a half since we experienced this rare privilage of 2 picks in the top 10 of a National Draft.
On another level I am really hoping that our recruiting team has been consistently applying their studying skills in regard to the pros & cons of each of these player that will be drafted later this month.
Who knows we may not get picks like these for another decade.
Of coarse that suggests that the next decade would have us camped in the top half of the ladder.
. . . & we need some luck with the two players we nominate for the red, white & black.
Here's hoping.
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Re: Poll - Who do you want at pick 7 & 8? Pick 2 players.
Let's hope we never have early picks again unless we need to trade for them.
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Re: Poll - Who do you want at pick 7 & 8? Pick 2 players.
magnifisaint wrote:I concur with Pav. Most of us on here arent a bunch of idiots Con. The fact that you have about as much of an idea about these guys as most of us (nil), but pretend to know so much by watching some youtube clips and read some draft reports doesn't reflect well on you. Probably best if you kept it to quoting.SaintPav wrote:reductio ad ridiculum (appeal to ridicule).Con Gorozidis wrote:No need.magnifisaint wrote:Where have you seen him play?Con Gorozidis wrote:Fine but we got Sinclair as a Rookie AND he had a year of VFL under his belt.Drake Huggins wrote:Murphy is the potential bolter. An elite cricketer, al a Sinclair, who came back to footy just this year. Wasn't even in the discussion early this year. Now touted as a top 15 pick. His dad, Sean, played for our U/19's back in the day.
Murphy has some potential but that is all. Totally unproven. A project player. I see him as a pick around 20-30.
Anything higher than that would be lunacy.
I just like to go around to kids houses who live within a 10 minute drive and have a good family meal. Great tight knit family. Real character. Terrific salad dressing. f*** me but the steak was cooked just how I like it - well bloody done. Plenty of options with the sauce on the table too. Which is how it should be.
His uncle was a gun player for Hampton Rovers. Could have played for the Saints but did his knee early. Real sporting family. The sister is in the state junior netball side. The mum is a real solid type. Just a bloody delight to be honest.
I was kind of hoping they might ask me to move in for a few weeks. s*** they had plenty of space and I was happy to put a blow up mattress in the garage if need be....
Delighted to have a kid of this calibre in the club.
Getting very boring Con.
Blind faith in Elshaugh and Bains is misplaced.
I have no faith in Elshaugh.
That's my point.
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magnifisaint wrote:I concur with Pav. Most of us on here arent a bunch of idiots Con. The fact that you have about as much of an idea about these guys as most of us (nil), but pretend to know so much by watching some youtube clips and read some draft reports doesn't reflect well on you. Probably best if you kept it to quoting.SaintPav wrote:reductio ad ridiculum (appeal to ridicule).Con Gorozidis wrote:No need.magnifisaint wrote:Where have you seen him play?Con Gorozidis wrote:Fine but we got Sinclair as a Rookie AND he had a year of VFL under his belt.Drake Huggins wrote:Murphy is the potential bolter. An elite cricketer, al a Sinclair, who came back to footy just this year. Wasn't even in the discussion early this year. Now touted as a top 15 pick. His dad, Sean, played for our U/19's back in the day.
Murphy has some potential but that is all. Totally unproven. A project player. I see him as a pick around 20-30.
Anything higher than that would be lunacy.
I just like to go around to kids houses who live within a 10 minute drive and have a good family meal. Great tight knit family. Real character. Terrific salad dressing. f*** me but the steak was cooked just how I like it - well bloody done. Plenty of options with the sauce on the table too. Which is how it should be.
His uncle was a gun player for Hampton Rovers. Could have played for the Saints but did his knee early. Real sporting family. The sister is in the state junior netball side. The mum is a real solid type. Just a bloody delight to be honest.
I was kind of hoping they might ask me to move in for a few weeks. s*** they had plenty of space and I was happy to put a blow up mattress in the garage if need be....
Delighted to have a kid of this calibre in the club.
Getting very boring Con.
Blind faith in Elshaugh and Bains is misplaced.
I have no faith in Elshaugh.
That's my point.
Hopefully I'm wrong.
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You don't know how right you are about Elshaug, Con. Bains is a bigger loss than people realize. A good operator with plenty of smarts. No wonder he's been headhunted by other clubs and the AFL and his star continues to rise. No one has tried to catch the trout. He's an in industry joke. The general attitude from the industry insiders is that the saints are welcome to him. I love the fact we have 7 & 8 in this draft with one caveat. Elshyte now has sole responsibility for the selections. Like handing the keys to your new Ferrari to you half pissed learner driver son and asking him to deliver it to the other side of town. It might get there, but it's more likely you'll find it ablaze in a roadside ditch somewhere along the route.
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He hasn't done too bad. I reckon that Billings will be better than Bottempelli and Acres just could be anything. Billings still has a huge amount of upside.Con Gorozidis wrote:magnifisaint wrote:I concur with Pav. Most of us on here arent a bunch of idiots Con. The fact that you have about as much of an idea about these guys as most of us (nil), but pretend to know so much by watching some youtube clips and read some draft reports doesn't reflect well on you. Probably best if you kept it to quoting.SaintPav wrote:reductio ad ridiculum (appeal to ridicule).Con Gorozidis wrote:No need.magnifisaint wrote:Where have you seen him play?Con Gorozidis wrote:Fine but we got Sinclair as a Rookie AND he had a year of VFL under his belt.Drake Huggins wrote:Murphy is the potential bolter. An elite cricketer, al a Sinclair, who came back to footy just this year. Wasn't even in the discussion early this year. Now touted as a top 15 pick. His dad, Sean, played for our U/19's back in the day.
Murphy has some potential but that is all. Totally unproven. A project player. I see him as a pick around 20-30.
Anything higher than that would be lunacy.
I just like to go around to kids houses who live within a 10 minute drive and have a good family meal. Great tight knit family. Real character. Terrific salad dressing. f*** me but the steak was cooked just how I like it - well bloody done. Plenty of options with the sauce on the table too. Which is how it should be.
His uncle was a gun player for Hampton Rovers. Could have played for the Saints but did his knee early. Real sporting family. The sister is in the state junior netball side. The mum is a real solid type. Just a bloody delight to be honest.
I was kind of hoping they might ask me to move in for a few weeks. s*** they had plenty of space and I was happy to put a blow up mattress in the garage if need be....
Delighted to have a kid of this calibre in the club.
Getting very boring Con.
Blind faith in Elshaugh and Bains is misplaced.
I have no faith in Elshaugh.
That's my point.
Hopefully I'm wrong.
I was never really sold on Bains (gut feel) but had nothing to really go on so I assumed he was competent.
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Re: Poll - Who do you want at pick 7 & 8? Pick 2 players.
Who I want for us
Fogarty
Bonar
Stephenson
Brayshaw
Xfactor, size toughness. Those 4 get me going more than Cerra, Raynor.
Could Raynor bias be because of dusty? Bonar and Fogarty may have ifs anout them but end of the day have the most upside.
Anyway its a bit redundant because we are gettong
7. Constable
8. Murphy
Lock it in. I expect ITK status after this plays out.
Fogarty
Bonar
Stephenson
Brayshaw
Xfactor, size toughness. Those 4 get me going more than Cerra, Raynor.
Could Raynor bias be because of dusty? Bonar and Fogarty may have ifs anout them but end of the day have the most upside.
Anyway its a bit redundant because we are gettong
7. Constable
8. Murphy
Lock it in. I expect ITK status after this plays out.
Re: Poll - Who do you want at pick 7 & 8? Pick 2 players.
People still spelling Rayner with an O after all this time