Just looking at the teams results and where the opposition finished:
GWS, Richmond and WC are the only teams that we beat that finished above us
We didn't lose to a team that finished below us which is a big positive.
In theory due to the structure of the draw we finished exactly where we should have. The middle bracket of teams we played twice ( Melbourne, Richmond, WC,) we went 2-4. We also played Sydney, and North twice (2-2) .
Basically we beat who we were suppose to but weren't able to beat the teams we needed to push past.
Danger is now we fall into the Richmond, North, and others of the past decade finishing in the 9-12 bracket and treading water.
From a list perspective we have 2 players make the AA top 40. We probably have 4-5 others who have ability to make such a list in the future ( Carlisle, Billings, Steven, Membrey, Gresham) . From there we have a lot of good foot soldiers , which teams need, but too many to compete with the next level of teams.
We need A Grade Talent and to do that we must trade picks and/or players who many like what they bring to the table and will be good AFL players (Webster, Newness, Hickey) for quality in return.
Season of average
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Re: Season of average
Richmond finished 3rd this year. While they had a bad year last year they have played finals for 2-3 years before that (but didn't win a final). I know the joke about them finishing 9th is a tried and tested one but they haven't finished there for at least 5 years. North also played two prelims in a row.older saint wrote:Just looking at the teams results and where the opposition finished:
GWS, Richmond and WC are the only teams that we beat that finished above us
We didn't lose to a team that finished below us which is a big positive.
In theory due to the structure of the draw we finished exactly where we should have. The middle bracket of teams we played twice ( Melbourne, Richmond, WC,) we went 2-4. We also played Sydney, and North twice (2-2) .
Basically we beat who we were suppose to but weren't able to beat the teams we needed to push past.
Danger is now we fall into the Richmond, North, and others of the past decade finishing in the 9-12 bracket and treading water.
From a list perspective we have 2 players make the AA top 40. We probably have 4-5 others who have ability to make such a list in the future ( Carlisle, Billings, Steven, Membrey, Gresham) . From there we have a lot of good foot soldiers , which teams need, but too many to compete with the next level of teams.
We need A Grade Talent and to do that we must trade picks and/or players who many like what they bring to the table and will be good AFL players (Webster, Newness, Hickey) for quality in return.
As ex-president Peter Summers said:
“If we are going to be a contender, we may as well plan to win the bloody thing.”
St Kilda - At least we have a Crest!
“If we are going to be a contender, we may as well plan to win the bloody thing.”
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Re: Season of average
were just using then as an example of teams which for many years were in those areas , not necessarily the last couple years. Point of the sentence is the position and consequences of that rather than the specific teamsJacks Back wrote:Richmond finished 3rd this year. While they had a bad year last year they have played finals for 2-3 years before that (but didn't win a final). I know the joke about them finishing 9th is a tried and tested one but they haven't finished there for at least 5 years. North also played two prelims in a row.older saint wrote:Just looking at the teams results and where the opposition finished:
GWS, Richmond and WC are the only teams that we beat that finished above us
We didn't lose to a team that finished below us which is a big positive.
In theory due to the structure of the draw we finished exactly where we should have. The middle bracket of teams we played twice ( Melbourne, Richmond, WC,) we went 2-4. We also played Sydney, and North twice (2-2) .
Basically we beat who we were suppose to but weren't able to beat the teams we needed to push past.
Danger is now we fall into the Richmond, North, and others of the past decade finishing in the 9-12 bracket and treading water.
From a list perspective we have 2 players make the AA top 40. We probably have 4-5 others who have ability to make such a list in the future ( Carlisle, Billings, Steven, Membrey, Gresham) . From there we have a lot of good foot soldiers , which teams need, but too many to compete with the next level of teams.
We need A Grade Talent and to do that we must trade picks and/or players who many like what they bring to the table and will be good AFL players (Webster, Newness, Hickey) for quality in return.